
Tasteland
Creative takes on media, marketing and technology from Daisy Alioto and Francis Zierer. Daisy is the CEO of Dirt Media, a next-generation entertainment brand using emerging technology to tell the coolest stories about culture and collecting. Francis is the editor of Creator Spotlight, a weekly newsletter about creators across the world of newsletters.New episodes every Wednesday.
Latest episodes

Nov 13, 2024 • 55min
Ep. 16: Mushrooms in our ears ft. Lauryn Menard, CEO of Gob
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Lauryn Menard, CEO and co-founder of Gob, a compostable, plastic-free, mycelium-based earplug company. Gob: https://www.gob.earth/ Tickets for the NWU event: https://dirrrt.fyi/paywriters 00:00 Introducing Lauryn, Gob and its Mission02:03 The Concept of Friction in Modern Consumerism06:20 Designing with End-of-Life in Mind11:32 Scaling Production and Sustainability15:07 The Role of Tesla in Green Marketing19:38 Navigating the B2B and B2C Landscape22:26 Branding and Marketing Positioning26:19 Innovations in Mycelium Materials29:34 Supply and Demand in Mycelium Production34:15 The Identity of a Founder in the Bay Area38:27 The Future of Sustainable Products44:17 Envisioning the 22nd Century49:01 Exploring New Biomaterials51:05 Teaching Biomaterials and Student Innovations

Nov 6, 2024 • 51min
Ep. 15: The FDA is the original tastemaker ft. Teddy Brown and Emily Shugerman
This week, Daisy and Francis welcome journalists Teddy Brown and Emily Shugerman. Teddy recently covered Zyn and its masculine political symbolism for the New York Times, while Emily explored direct-to-consumer women’s health brands for The Guardian.Teddy's article: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/31/style/zyn-nicotine-pouch-masculinity.html Emily's article: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/30/birth-control-contraception-branding-abortion-roe-v-wade?CMP=share_btn_url 00:00 Introducing our guests01:48 Exploring Masculinity and Political Symbolism in Zyn06:04 The Role of Brands and Marketing in Masculinity08:58 Cultural Associations and Gender Dynamics of Zyn11:52 The Impact of Online Communities and Vernacular16:15 Election Context and the Masculinity Crisis19:04 Conclusion and Future Considerations21:01 The Impact of Zyn, Vaping and Tobacco Trends23:21 Women’s Health and Direct-to-Consumer Brands29:23 The Role of Marketing in Women’s Health35:34 The Challenges of Accessing Healthcare40:53 The Intersection of Healthcare and Consumerism45:50 Conclusion

Oct 30, 2024 • 1h 16min
Ep. 14: New Myths ft. David Rudnick
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by graphic designer David Rudnick to discuss the evolution of album covers, digital solipsism and the imagery behind Megalopolis. Tickets for the event: https://dirrrt.fyi/paywritersDavid's Strelka talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ejp4AvetSA00:00:00 Introducing David Rudnick and his work 00:01:10 Raising Funds for Freelancers and Worker-Owned Media 00:03:40 The Future of Journalism and Media Impartiality 00:08:52 Exploring the Intersection of Literature and Graphic Design 00:10:33 David's Journey to Ghent and His Studio Practice 00:18:03 The Value of Small, Sustainable Design Studios 00:24:58 The Evolution of Album Art in Design 00:28:14 The Impact of Digital Primacy on Visual Culture 00:37:17 The Dangers of Cultural Solipsism and Customization 00:46:22 Exploring Architectural Narratives in Film 01:03:09 The Myth of Immortality in Storytelling 01:09:11 Confronting Death in Modern Society

Oct 23, 2024 • 59min
Ep. 13: Cake Zine's Aliza Abarbanel
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Aliza Abarbanel, co-founder and editor of Cake Zine, a food-centric physical publication that is described as "a hedonistic exploration of history, pop culture, literature, and art through sweets."00:00 Intro to Cake Zine and the Shift From Print to Digital Media02:30 The Role of NY Mag in Media Representation05:53 Tina Brown and the Evolution of Substack10:00 Playboy's Business Challenges and Future Directions12:00 Welcome Aliza - Dessert After Dark17:24 The Benefits and Challenges of Print Media21:06 Defining a Piece of Cake Zine22:52 The Unique Approach of Cake Zine25:54 Understanding the Economics of Indie Publications29:26 Navigating the Attention Economy Trap31:17 The Role of Events in Building Community36:00 The Value of Collecting Magazines38:33 Mushrooms in the Middle41:03 The Community in Food Culture vs. Media Culture45:44 Dreams of a Physical Space48:06 Balancing Passion and Profession49:39 Podcasting Insights and Experiences, Also Zodiac Signs55:24 Final Rapid Fire Questions

Oct 16, 2024 • 55min
Ep. 12: Public radio for beginners ft. Elise Pepple
This week on Tasteland we are joined by Elise Pepple, the Executive Director of KRTS Marfa Public Radio. 00:00 Intellectual Property and Collaboration in Journalism 04:35 Music Consumption in the Digital Age 06:54 Introducing Elise Pepple of Marfa Public Radio 11:03 The Salt Institute and Public Radio Training 13:13 Elise's Early Career in Alaska and StoryCorps 15:40 The Attraction of Remote Locations 17:20 Community Building Through Public Radio 25:18 The Mission of Public Radio 28:28 The Broadcast Area of Marfa Public Radio 31:24 Impactful Local Reporting 35:03 The Funding and Support of Marfa Public Radio 38:01 The Role of NPR Studios 43:01 Elise's Role on the NPR Board 46:03 Camaraderie Among Radio Station Directors 51:16 The State of Radio Today

Oct 9, 2024 • 59min
Ep. 11: Fragranceland ft. Bibi Prival
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by fragrance evaluator and perfume expert Bibi Prival to discuss the science behind crafting smells, the evolution of fragrance and making sense of different scents.00:00 Bibi Prival and her journey into the world of fragrance05:00 The importance of smell in education06:41 The secretive nature of the fragrance industry08:59 Losing your sense of smell as a perfumer10:13 Making the jump from fragrance marketing to evaluation15:00 The impact of TikTok of fragrance culture17:36 Francis' first fragrance experiences21:16 Bibi's gateway into the fragrance world25:06 Internet culture and fragrance28:10 The evolution of fragrance marketing32:46 Fragrance and Frenchness - the roots of fragrance36:28 The link between smells and core memories42:48 The day to day of a fragrance evaluator46:11 The technique of a professional smelling49:08 Francis loves dirt51:43 Bibi's top 3 fragrance ingredients55:07 The impact of celebrities of the fragrance world

Oct 3, 2024 • 54min
Ep. 10: The Largesse of Tasteland
This week Daisy and Francis explore the evolution of magazine consumption, the impact of digital media on traditional publishing, and the future of advertising in a rapidly changing landscape. 00:00 The evolution of magazine consumption 06:09 The digital shift in media 12:22 The future of advertising and content creation 14:26 Creators responsibility to their audience 16:21 Media becoming a luxury product 20:13 Defining the modern magazine 25:34 The role of taste in media 28:50 The carcinization and Balkanization of media 34:03 The impact of photography and AI within magazines 38:09 The missionaries and mercenaries of the media founders 48:13 The post-literacy age is here

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Sep 25, 2024 • 58min
Ep. 9: Debunking ZIRP ft. Joe Weisenthal
Joe Weisenthal, co-host of Bloomberg's Odd Lots Podcast and a notable figure in finance-Twitter, joins the discussion with sharp insights. He breaks down the effects of Fed rate cuts on startups and their ripple effect on everyday life. The conversation dives into generational cultural shifts, exploring the evolving meaning of 'selling out' and the symbolism of subtle interest rate changes. They also weigh in on the changing landscape of dining and social status, and the parallels between country music and classic holiday tunes, revealing unexpected connections in culture.

Sep 18, 2024 • 1h 5min
Ep. 8: Trying our best ft. Ty Haney
Today we chat with Ty Haney, founder of Outdoor Voices and now Try Your Best (TYB), a community rewards platform for brands and fans to connect and grow together, and Joggy, a clean, planet-based energy drink.TYB here: tyb.xyz00:00 Sports fan culture and suffering02:36 The Big Dig and its impact on Bostonians05:39 Gen-Z has regrets10:42 Introducing Ty Haney and her ventures14:46 TYB and the gamification of community building16:58 Transitioning from physical and digital startups25:19 Why Web3?26:54 Evolving the Web3 onboarding process29:52 The role of exclusivity in a community36:33 The importance of data in brand engagement38:50 Revenue models and brand partnerships39:46 The demographics of TYB users40:43 The evolving status of a Paris Hilton collectible45:45 Becoming a valued community member48:41 Maintaining exclusivity as a community grows52:32 Founder Mode reactions58:26 Mistakes made and lessons learned

Sep 11, 2024 • 56min
Ep. 7: We're long Industry (ft. creators Mickey Down and Konrad Kay)
This week Francis and Daisy are joined by Mickey Down and Konrad Kay, the writers of HBO's 'Industry'. We take a peek into the writers room and learn about the inspiration behind the show, the intricacies of character development and why they decided to switch things up for season 3.00:00 Why do people buy merch? 07:00 The writers of HBO's Industry: Mickey Down and Konrad Kay 15:12 This would not work in America 30:00 What makes a TV show prestige? 34:32 No one knows what's going on 45:40 Improving as writers 52:51 The worst song, again