

Tasteland
Tasteland
Creative takes on media, marketing and technology from Daisy Alioto and Francis Zierer. Daisy is the CEO of Dirt Media, a next-generation entertainment brand using emerging technology to tell the coolest stories about culture and collecting. Francis is the editor of Creator Spotlight, a weekly newsletter about creators across the world of newsletters.New episodes every Wednesday.
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Sep 10, 2025 • 1h 3min
Ep. 59: The business of books ft. Andy Hunter of Bookshop.org
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Andy Hunter, the founder and CEO of bookshop.org, an online bookshop with a mission to financially support local, independent bookshops.__BookshopWebsiteInstagramBlueskyAndy's LinkedIn__Timestamps00:00 Introducing Andy and Bookshop02:08 Press Publish NYC06:26 Introducing e-books on Bookshop08:00 Aligning against big tech11:36 Best performing genres on Bookshop14:12 The catalyst for Bookshop's impressive growth15:52 Rejecting investment to maintain the company's mission19:51 Support bookstores, not billionaires28:03 Innovating the e-reader35:00 Bookshop's impact on local book stores37:25 AI vs human book recommendations46:42 Taking the Bookshop model beyond books53:40 The value of physical books57:40 Current reads__Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers.

Sep 3, 2025 • 60min
Ep. 58: Generational luxury ft. Ben Dietz
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Ben Dietz, a long-time media/entertainment business guy.__BenSubstackLinkedIn[SIC] Talks Podcast__Timstamps00:00 Do not disturb05:12 No new luxury brands11:11 Cybertruck: a future classic16:20 Can software be luxury?23:23 AI email summaries, with emotion30:34 Brand safety is dead34:56 Podcasting for the generations38:31 Job tenure trends47:39 Well-mannered, socialized and curious51:13 Psychological foot binding54:00 A month of sobriety__Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers.

Aug 27, 2025 • 1h 14min
Ep. 57: Fad World ft. W. David Marx
This week on Tasteland we're joined by W. David Marx, an American fashion and culture writer who works and lives in Tokyo, Japan. He is the author of Ametora: How Japan Saved American Style and Status and Culture: How Our Desire for Social Rank Creates Taste, Identity, Art, Fashion, and Constant Change.Preorder Blank Space: A Cultural History of the Twenty-First Century__W. David MarxNewsletterTwitter/XInstagram__Timestamps00:00:00 Subway tastes00:02:26 There's no song of the summer00:09:05 Skinny pants are never coming back00:12:10 Only Fads00:17:10 Fad consumerism culture, US vs Asia00:21:27 The age of the double sellout00:24:00 The 21st century crisis00:35:49 Rich enough to not have a smartphone00:41:25 Cultural roots of contemporary politics00:51:04 Everyone is a marketer00:56:37 You can't be unfamous01:01:04 Capitalism without morality__Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers.

Aug 20, 2025 • 44min
Ep. 56: Literary hot takes ft. Greta Rainbow
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Greta Rainbow. Greta is an editor at the Creative Independent, arts columnist for the New York Review of Architecture, and she's the anchor contributor for Dirt's books newsletter, Blank.__GretaWebsiteTwitter/XInstagramIgno-fiction piece__Timestamps00:00 Introducing Greta04:33 Genre + scene = literary movement08:37 Disney adults of alt-lit11:03 In defense of perfection16:44 An audatious literary sandwich24:22 Literary gnats31:09 Unfulfiled references come as great surprise34:51 Books that we hate__Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers.

Aug 13, 2025 • 1h 5min
Ep. 55: Herb Wednesdays ft. Sam Valenti IV
This week Daisy and Francis are joined Sam Valenti IV. Sam is the founder and leader of Ghostly International, a 25-year-old collective that has grown from a dorm room-based record label to a recognized platform for the work of great artists, designers, technologists, and musicians. The New York Times says Ghostly “transcends its record label roots to sell and ethos.” Ghostly International is the first label alongside upstart drink sum wtr in All Flowers Group, a label unit formed as an affiliate of Secretly Group. An inveterate collector, Valenti also writes the weekly newsletter Herb Sundays, which features a personal playlist by a noted artist or enthusiast.__SamInstagramLinkedInSubstackGhostly__Timestamps00:00:00 Igno-fiction00:05:45 Cultural beatdowns00:11:18 The knowledge requirement of fandoms00:18:15 Sycophancy vs. fandom00:21:50 Community in record labels00:27:45 Archiving culture00:33:29 Nostalgia and new media engagement00:36:52 Preserving artists legacies00:42:36 New media monetization strategies00:50:00 AI and the future of media consumption00:57:31 The best music journalism right now__Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers.

Aug 6, 2025 • 57min
Ep. 54: Spiritual tech and secular tech ft. Reggie James
This week on Tasteland we're joined by Reggie James, a writer, product architect and investor.__ReggieLinkedInTwitter/XSubstackInstagram__00:0002:09 Best hardware of 202406:11 Interviewing Jasper of Teenage Engineering08:06 The most contemporary city in America12:07 Secular tech vs spiritual tech17:25 Heriticon loses its edge22:30 The tech right and religious right cannot coexist28:41 Faith and doubt in startup tech35:31 Private vs public capital in innovation42:26 Having a startup is a lifestyle choice__Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers.

Jul 30, 2025 • 53min
Ep. 53: Sloppy ft. Rax King
This week on Tasteland we're joined by Rax King, a James Beard Award-nominated writer and host of the podcast Low Culture Boil. Rax is the author of the 2021 book Tacky, and her new release Sloppy is out now.__RaxSloppyPodcastInstagramTwitterBluesky__Timestamps00:00 Introducing Rax02:37 Write sober, edit sober07:26 The goal of personal writing13:20 Reframing past experiences20:25 Service industry draft29:11 Banjos in the sky31:27 Drink the Kool-Aid but know your dosage35:21 Reverse abundance mindset38:00 Nobody does bread anymore42:59 Didn't make the cut45:55 Sex tourism and calamari48:40 Noble savage reply guys __Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers.

Jul 23, 2025 • 1h 8min
Ep. 52: Gentle-parenting your audience ft. Jeremy Kirkland
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Jeremy Kirkland, host of the podcast Blamo! — a podcast exploring the world of fashion with the personalities that shape it.__Blamo!PodcastInstagramJeremyInstagramLinkedIn__Timestamps00:00 I always make my knock a little song05:36 All podcasts are restaurant podcasts08:13 Nine years of podcasting14:47 The business of Blamo!22:28 The culture of criticism online29:29 You should do embarrassing things37:45 The cost of existing in the creator economy41:08 E-commerce recovery52:15 There's no runway in Missouri57:38 Bag check survival instincts01:01:01 Running up that hill __Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers.

Jul 16, 2025 • 42min
Ep. 51: Never Post ft. Mike Rugnetta
Joining the conversation is Mike Rugnetta, a writer and podcaster known for his insights on digital culture. He dives into the shifting landscape of online content creation, examining how corporate influences and AI could reshape our digital narratives. The discussion also navigates the challenges of censorship and the complexities of human attention in today's world. From the role of algorithmic recommendations to the struggles of genuine expression, Mike's expertise sheds light on the evolving relationship between technology and creativity.

Jul 9, 2025 • 58min
Ep. 50: Information Age ft. Cora Lewis
This week on Tasteland we are joined by writer and award winning journalist, Cora Lewis. Cora's fiction has appeared at The Yale Review, Joyland Magazine, Epiphany, and elsewhere. She currently works at the Associated Press in New York, and she previously worked at BuzzFeed News. Cora's debut novella, Information Age, comes out on July 15th.Pre-order Cora's book Information Age__Follow CoraTwitter/XLinkedInWebsite__Timestamps00:00 Reading Information Age04:37 Book design and unique literary devices11:46 Title inspiration and influences14:12 The artistry of fragmented writing20:14 Composing fragments into a finished piece26:09 You can't write life to scale34:42 Honing the aesthetics of a novella37:36 Cora's lack of social media presence44:58 The duty to represent life accurately51:25 A clearheaded view of AI__Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers.