In the Bubble with Andy Slavitt

Andy and epidemiologists Farzad Mostashari and Jennifer Nuzzo get together for a special holiday edition of Safe or Not Safe. They've got answers to your questions about partially-vaccinated kids, rapid antigen tests, in-person office parties (remember those?), airplane safety, and much more. Whether you are hosting people or will be someone's guest, this episode should calm your pre-holiday COVID-related nerves.   Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt.    Follow Farzad @Farzad_MD and Jennifer @JenniferNuzzo on Twitter.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.    Support the show by checking out our sponsors!   Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/  Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. 

Learn more at cvshealth.com.   Check out these resources from today’s episode:  Read Andy’s opinion piece in The Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/11/15/pandemic-is-not-over-yet-andy-slavitt/ Check out more of Jennifer’s thoughts on how to have a safe holiday season in this guest essay in The New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/17/opinion/covid-thanksgiving-holiday-risk.html Watch a video of how to take an at-home test, as Farzad suggests, before administering one on yourself: https://www.webmd.com/coronavirus-in-context/video/covid-home-testing Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/  Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165    Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.    For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy and conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt, who is very much pro-vaccine and anti-federal vaccine mandate, merge echo chambers and discuss where conservatives are at this moment with the pandemic. They get into reasons why an estimated 40% of conservative adults aren't vaccinated, what works and what doesn't when it comes to persuading unvaccinated people, and have an in-depth exchange about mandates. This is an increasingly rare but badly needed conversation, one that is spirited and civil between people who disagree. Plus, Ryan Panchadsaram joins Andy at the beginning of the show to weigh in on the Glasgow Climate Pact.   Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt.    Follow Hugh @hughhewitt on Twitter.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.    Support the show by checking out our sponsors!   Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/  Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. 

Learn more at cvshealth.com.   Check out these resources from today’s episode:    Here’s more on the Pew report on political typology that Hugh mentions: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/11/09/beyond-red-vs-blue-the-political-typology-2/ Watch Hugh’s most recent interview with Dr. Fauci: https://hughhewitt.com/video/dr-anthony-fauci-returns-to-the-interview-with-hugh-hewitt/ Here’s Ross Douthat’s book chronicling his chronic Lyme disease that Hugh mentions: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/646761/the-deep-places-by-ross-douthat/ Check out Peggy Noonan’s 2016 piece that Hugh references: https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-and-the-rise-of-the-unprotected-1456448550 Learn more about John Doerr and Ryan Panchadsaram’s plan to solve the climate crisis: www.speedandscale.com Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/  Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165    Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.    For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Have we reached the so-called "new normal" people keep talking about? And if so, what does that mean for you? Andy reunites with former guest host Dr. Bob Wachter who has started to let his guard down in terms of risk tolerance. They discuss why Bob feels like the time is right for that, how to think about the things that can scare us back into a more vigilant state, and Bob's thoughts for what COVID looks like long-term. This is a nuanced conversation on a complex topic that will help you navigate this uncertain time. Plus, Andy’s mom joins at the start to offer up some show ideas.   Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt.    Follow Bob @Bob_Wachter on Twitter.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.    Support the show by checking out our sponsors!   Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/  Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. 

Learn more at cvshealth.com.   Check out these resources from today’s episode:    Learn more about how the oral antivirals from Merck and Pfizer work and what they could mean for the pandemic: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-antiviral-drugs-merck-pfizer-pills-work-rcna5317 Here’s more on the third wave hitting Denmark: https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/denmark-reinstate-corona-passport-after-rise-infections-tv-2-2021-11-08/ Read more about Bob’s decision-making shift: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/12/briefing/pandemic-return-nomal-coronavirus.html He was also featured in the San Francisco Chronicle recently about risk assessment: https://www.sfchronicle.com/health/article/COVID-new-normal-risks-16557732.php Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/  Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165    Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.    For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy brings clear, simple answers to one of the most intimidating and important questions of our time: is there a plan that can actually solve climate change? John Doerr and his colleague Ryan Panchadsaram join Andy to introduce the most systematic and easy-to-understand plan to solve the climate crisis as the COP26 Climate Change Conference unfolds in Glasgow, Scotland. This episode brings hope to a desperate time.    Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt.    Follow John @johndoerr and Ryan @rypan on Twitter.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.    Support the show by checking out our sponsors!   Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/  Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. 

Learn more at cvshealth.com.   Check out these resources from today’s episode:    Get more information on John and Ryan’s plan: speedandscale.com  Keep up to date on the latest happening at COP26: https://ukcop26.org/ Read more about Bill Gates’s idea of the Green Premium: https://www.gatesnotes.com/Energy/Introducing-the-Green-Premiums Read more about the climate provisions proposed in President Biden’s Build Back Better plan: https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2021/10/28/climate-biden-build-back-better/ Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/  Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165    Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.    For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy calls up Kara Swisher, whom Newsweek once called Silicon Valley's "most powerful tech journalist," to discuss the myriad issues surrounding companies like Facebook, Twitter, and even Donald Trump's new social media platform Truth Social. They get into the Facebook Papers, if government regulation is coming, and where she sees Big Tech heading in the near future. Plus, Andy tells a story he's never told before about interactions with Facebook while he was in the White House.   Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt.    Follow Kara @karaswisher on Twitter.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.    Support the show by checking out our sponsors!   Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/  Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. 

Learn more at cvshealth.com.   Check out these resources from today’s episode:    Learn more about Pfizer’s COVID-19 oral antiviral pill: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/11/05/pfizer-covid-pill/ Read an interview with Kara on the Facebook Papers: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/10/kara-swisher-on-mark-zuckerberg-facebook-papers.html Read Kara’s columns in The New York Times, including many about Facebook: https://www.nytimes.com/column/kara-swisher Learn more about Truth Social and SPACs: https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-s-truth-social-platform-could-make-millions-or-go-ncna1282853 Check out Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari: https://www.ynharari.com/book/sapiens-2/ Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/  Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165    Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.    For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy calls up Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot, who is in the middle of a nasty battle over vaccine mandates with, most notably, the city's largest police union. Andy asks Mayor Lightfoot why she thinks the union president is really picking this fight with her, how she plans to get through to city workers who aren't complying with the mandate, and where the opposing sides go from here.   Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt.    Follow Mayor Lightfoot @chicagosmayor on Twitter.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.    Support the show by checking out our sponsors!   Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/  Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. 

Learn more at cvshealth.com.   Check out these resources from today’s episode:    Keep up with the latest developments in the battle between Mayor Lightfoot and the police unions in Chicago: https://www.wbez.org/stories/covid-19-vaccine-requirement-for-chicago-police-suspended-by-judge/dab4dfc5-8985-4a26-84f4-4024e4b745e2 And watch FOP President John Catanzara's reaction to the latest ruling: https://youtu.be/X1pIeHjiFSI  Learn more about Chicago’s employee vaccination policy: https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/dhr/supp_info/city-of-chicago-employee-vaccination-policy.html  Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/  Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165    Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.    For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy calls up pediatrician and vaccinologist Dr. Paul Offit, who just voted to recommend that the FDA approve Pfizer's vaccine for 5-11 year olds. They discuss the vaccine advisory committee's deliberations, what the data show about side effects like myocarditis, how to think about the decision from a parent's perspective, and whether or not schools should require that eligible kids be vaccinated against COVID-19. Plus, Andy breaks down what you need to know about COP26, the global climate summit that is now underway in Glasgow.   Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt.    Follow Paul @DrPaulOffit on Twitter.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.    Support the show by checking out our sponsors!   Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/  Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. 

Learn more at cvshealth.com.   Check out these resources from today’s episode:    Keep track of what’s happening at COP26 in Glasgow: https://ukcop26.org/ Learn more about Speed and Scale: An Action Plan for Solving Our Climate Crisis Now, and pre-order your copy, here: https://speedandscale.com/ Check out this timeline for the kids COVID vaccine authorization: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/10/28/1050189443/heres-the-timeline-for-the-kids-covid-vaccine-authorization  Listen to Paul talk more about Philadelphia’s 1991 measles vaccine mandate: https://www.npr.org/2019/04/14/713195751/how-philadelphia-mandated-vaccinations-in-1991  Here’s the Kaiser Family Foundation survey looking at parents’ attitudes towards COVID-19 vaccinations for children: https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/poll-finding/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-october-2021/  Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/  Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165    Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.    For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy begins with the big news: a vaccine for kids seems imminent. He breaks down the FDA vaccine advisory committee’s vote recommending authorization of the Pfizer vaccine, and outlines the next steps to get shots for 5-11 year-olds as soon as possible. Then, he calls up Dr. Richard Besser, President and CEO of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. They discuss what our response to COVID could mean for future public health crises and how we come back from the entrenched, tribalistic camps we find ourselves in today. Plus, the lessons we should be taking away from the death of General Colin Powell.   Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt.    Follow Rich @DrRichBesser on Twitter.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.    Support the show by checking out our sponsors!   Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/  Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. 

Learn more at cvshealth.com.   Check out these resources from today’s episode:    Learn more about the next steps for the vaccine for kids: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/fda-panel-greenlights-vaccines-kids-kicking-off-authorization/story?id=80778124 Here’s more from Rich on the vaccine for kids: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-vaccine-kids-pediatrician-questions-answers/ Read more on Colin Powell, and how to think about his death and breakthrough infections in people who are immunocompromised: https://slate.com/technology/2021/10/colin-powell-vaccine-breakthrough-infection-concern.html Learn more about Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson’s change of heart on mask mandates: https://www.npr.org/2021/08/04/1024939859/arkansas-governor-reverse-law-let-schools-require-masks Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/  Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165    Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.    For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy calls up Moderna CEO Stéphane Bancel for a remarkable behind-the-scenes look at the last two years inside the company. As Moderna's booster shots start to roll out across the country, Andy and Stéphane discuss the origins of Moderna's partnership with the government, how he thinks the vaccine will hold up against future variants, and the effort to vaccinate the globe. Plus, Stéphane's riveting recollections of hearing about COVID-19 for the first time in January 2020, and what else they’re working on right now to help us end the pandemic.   Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt.    Follow Moderna @moderna_tx on Twitter.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.    Support the show by checking out our sponsors!   Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/  Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. 

Learn more at cvshealth.com.   Check out these resources from today’s episode:    Check out Stéphane’s letter titled “Our Global Commitment to Vaccine Access”: https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/our-global-commitment-vaccine-access Read more about how the FDA and CDC approved Moderna’s booster shot last week and also endorsed the mix-and-match approach: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/21/health/covid-vaccine-boosters-cdc.html Here’s the Bloomberg story Stéphane mentioned about Haiti shipping unused doses back to COVAX: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-13/haiti-to-send-back-expiring-u-s-donated-moderna-vaccines Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/  Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165    Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.    For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy breaks the news about a new nationwide digital vaccine verification initiative to be formally announced next week. Andy talks with the system's architect, Paul Meyer, and California's Chief Technology Innovation Officer, Rick Klau. They discuss why the federal government isn't creating its own verification system, how Californians have responded to the state's Digital Vaccine Record, and where you can get a digital record of your COVID-19 vaccine status right now.   Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt.    Follow Rick @rklau and Paul @paulmeyernyc on Twitter.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.    Support the show by checking out our sponsors!   Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/  Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. 

Learn more at cvshealth.com.   Check out these resources from today’s episode:  Learn more about the SMART Health Cards Global Forum on October 28: https://events.zoom.us/ev/ANEak-EndgU6srtMF5CNSahdECUM5qwpkv1uC6ic-qo3OXjjxlb4j5Bt8Zjgahjp_Ti2Tn4 Check out the CommonPass: https://commonpass.org/ Here’s more on the slipping poll numbers for governors who attack vaccine mandates: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/17/governors-covid-vaccine-mandates-approval-516112 Read more about the plan to let fully vaccinated travelers back into the US starting November 8: https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/15/politics/us-border-travel-restrictions-november-8/index.html Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/  Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165    Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.    For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.