In the Bubble with Andy Slavitt

Andy digs into the global sanctions levied against Vladimir Putin and Russia as a result of the invasion of Ukraine with Atlantic staff writer David Frum. They get into how the sanctions are already affecting Russians, how they may play out here, and if David thinks there's a point at which they could go too far.    Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt.    Follow David on Twitter @davidfrum.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.    Support the show by checking out our sponsors!   Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/  Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Because at CVS Health, healthier happens together. Learn more at cvshealth.com.   Check out these resources from today’s episode:    Read David’s latest piece about the sanctions: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/02/how-russian-sanctions-work/622940/ Watch Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s full address to the European Parliament: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVvkdwksxMw Get the latest news on the war from The New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/03/01/world/ukraine-russia-war Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/  Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165    Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.    For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy tries to get a glimpse into SARS-CoV-2's future with Fred Hutchinson molecular biologist Jesse Bloom. Jesse is studying the ways the virus could continue to evolve and he gives us a sense of what may be on the horizon and how our immunity could hold up to those changes. Plus, they go back to the basics and talk about how and why this virus is evolving so much faster than other known viruses.   Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt.    Follow Jesse on Twitter @jbloom_lab.    Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.    Support the show by checking out our sponsors!   Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/  Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Because at CVS Health, healthier happens together. Learn more at cvshealth.com.   Check out these resources from today’s episode:    Read more about California’s SMARTER Plan: https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/02/17/governor-newsom-unveils-smarter-plan-charting-californias-path-forward-on-nation-leading-pandemic-response/ Learn more about the Bloom Lab’s work: https://research.fredhutch.org/bloom/en.html Read this preprint about the Bloom Lab’s antibody-escape calculator: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.04.471236v1 Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/  Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165    Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.    For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The pandemic forced us to confront many previously unacknowledged societal issues, including the lack of infrastructure we have to support those who need care and those who give it. As COVID-19 deaths near one million in America, the time has come to address the caregiving crisis in this country. There are nearly 50 million unpaid family caregivers and 4.5 million paid home care aides in America, yet they remain largely invisible. Andy explores that dichotomy with Ai-jen Poo, Executive Director of the National Domestic Workers Alliance and Caring Across Generations, and Randy Klein, CEO of Vesta Healthcare. They discuss why this work is historically undervalued and what we can all do to help change that. Plus, how to plan for the care you will likely need or give in your life, and what Build Back Better could do to support caregivers.   Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt.    Follow Ai-jen on Twitter @aijenpoo.    Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.    Support the show by checking out our sponsors!   Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/  Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Because at CVS Health, healthier happens together. Learn more at cvshealth.com.   Check out these resources from today’s episode:    Read more about what Build Back Better would do to improve caregiving in America: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/08/12/fact-sheet-build-back-better-investments-in-care-will-boost-economic-growth-and-help-businesses-thrive/ Learn more about the advocacy organization Caring Across Generations: ​​https://caringacross.org/ Check out the Care Can’t Wait summit on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/events/263157082636004 Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/  Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165    Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.    For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy and CDC Director Rochelle Walensky dig into some of the toughest COVID questions of the moment. When will we be able to take our masks off? Will we need a 4th vaccine dose? What does the data tell us about variant-specific boosters? They talk about how our public health infrastructure has transformed over the past two years, the new COVID surveillance systems at our disposal, and what the CDC will be looking out for as the virus continues to mutate. Plus, Dr. Walensky reflects on her first year as head of the CDC and gives practical advice for people navigating their local guidance when it contradicts CDC recommendations.    Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt.    Follow Dr. Walensky on Twitter @CDCDirector.    Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.    Support the show by checking out our sponsors!   Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/  Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Because at CVS Health, healthier happens together. Learn more at cvshealth.com.   Check out these resources from today’s episode:    Keep up with the latest CDC guidance on COVID-19: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html  Listen to Dr. Walensky’s first appearance on In the Bubble, back in January of 2021: https://lemonadamedia.com/podcast/meet-the-new-cdc-director-with-rochelle-walensky/  Learn more about the National Wastewater Surveillance System (NWSS): https://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/surveillance/wastewater-surveillance/wastewater-surveillance.html  Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/  Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165    Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.    For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy gets the latest on the most pressing legal issues with Preet Bharara, former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York and host of the podcast Stay Tuned with Preet. Andy and Preet discuss what's happening with the January 6th select committee, the idea of Donald Trump running again in 2024, and how the process to replace Supreme Court justice Stephen Breyer may play out. Plus, Preet talks about his new children's book Justice Is ... A Guide For Young Truth Seekers.   Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt.    Follow Preet @PreetBharara on Twitter.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.    Support the show by checking out our sponsors!   Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/  Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Because at CVS Health, healthier happens together. Learn more at cvshealth.com.   Check out these resources from today’s episode:    Check out Preet’s latest book Justice Is … A Guide For Young Truth Seekers: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/625338/justice-is-by-preet-bharara-illustrated-by-sue-cornelison/ Listen to Preet’s podcast "Stay Tuned with Preet": https://cafe.com/stay-tuned-podcast/ Watch Attorney General Merrick Garland’s full speech from 1/5/2022: https://www.justice.gov/opa/video/attorney-general-merrick-b-garland-delivers-remarks-regarding-first-anniversary-attack Learn more about Justice Stephen Breyer’s retirement and read profiles of three potential nominees to succeed him on SCOTUSblog: https://www.scotusblog.com/category/retirement-of-stephen-breyer/ Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/  Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165    Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.    For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy enlists Scripps Research immunologist and Danish expat Kristian Andersen to understand why Denmark lifted all their COVID restrictions — despite leading the world in per capita infections — and what we in the U.S. can learn from that. Plus, how BA.2 compares to BA.1 with regard to transmissibility, severity, and immune evasiveness and what Kristian thinks we need to do to minimize the risk of future variants.   Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt.    Follow Kristian @K_G_Andersen on Twitter.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.    Support the show by checking out our sponsors!   Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/  Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Because at CVS Health, healthier happens together. Learn more at cvshealth.com.   Check out these resources from today’s episode:    Here’s more on the FDA’s decision to postpone the VRBPAC meeting on Pfizer’s vaccine for kids under 5: https://www.statnews.com/2022/02/11/pfizer-and-fda-pull-back-from-plan-to-expedite-review-of-covid-19-vaccine-in-young-children/ Read more about Denmark’s decision to lift COVID restrictions: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/02/denmark-covid-restrictions/621482/ Read the paper Kristian wrote with Michael Mina on testing: https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.abe9187 For more on BA.2, check out this explainer: https://www.vox.com/22923891/omicron-subvariant-ba2-coronavirus Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/  Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165    Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.    For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy begins this jam-packed episode by talking about Pfizer's long-awaited vaccine for kids under 5 with Julie Morita, a pediatrician and executive vice president of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. Then he's joined by Safe or Not Safe alumna Caitlin Rivers, who is working to establish the new Center for Epidemic Forecasting and Outbreak Analytics at the CDC. Caitlin tells Andy what the group is doing to get ahead of future outbreaks and keep you safer and more informed about infectious diseases.   Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt.    Follow Julie @DrJulieMorita and Caitlin @cmyeaton on Twitter.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.    Support the show by checking out our sponsors!   Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/  Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Because at CVS Health, healthier happens together. Learn more at cvshealth.com.   Check out these resources from today’s episode:    Learn more about the Friends In Deed organization: https://friendsindeedpas.org/ Read more about the timeline for Pfizer’s vaccine for kids under 5: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/02/02/1077376625/covid-vaccine-kids-under-5 Check out this article about the Center for Epidemic Forecasting and Outbreak Analytics: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/22/magazine/cdc-pandemic-prediction.html Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/  Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165    Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.    For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy turns the tables on award-winning Washington Post journalist Dan Diamond, who has covered health care policy (and Andy) since the Obama administration, and asks him about COVID and the media. Andy and Dan talk about what it's like reporting on the Biden administration after covering the Trump administration, if Andy considers himself a member of the media, and Andy's appearance as Dan's debut guest on his old podcast Pulse Check. Keep an ear out for the moments where the two of them slip back into their more familiar roles, Dan as interviewer and Andy as interviewee.   Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt.    Follow Dan @ddiamond on Twitter.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.    Support the show by checking out our sponsors!   Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/  Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Because at CVS Health, healthier happens together. Learn more at cvshealth.com.   Check out these resources from today’s episode:    Read all of Dan’s reporting for The Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/dan-diamond/ Listen to the first episode of Pulse Check, Dan’s former podcast, featuring Andy: https://politicos-pulse-check.simplecast.com/episodes/andy-slavitt-on-how-cms-will-win-doctors-1436ca4d Check out Dan’s POLITICO story about how Trump changed HHS: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/31/how-trump-warped-hhs-452964 Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/  Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165    Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.    For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy explores what Omicron means for immunity with Harvard epidemiologist Bill Hanage. Andy and Bill tackle what we know about the kind of immunity Omicron may provide against future variants, what role layered immunity will play moving forward, and why we shouldn't count Delta out just yet. While you listen, see if you can catch all the literary and Arsenal F.C. references Bill skillfully slides into the conversation.    Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt.    Follow Bill @BillHanage on Twitter.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.    Support the show by checking out our sponsors!   Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/  Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Because at CVS Health, healthier happens together. Learn more at cvshealth.com.   Check out these resources from today’s episode:    Read Bill’s recent guest essay in The New York Times about Omicron and immunity: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/19/opinion/omicron-covid-surge.html Check out the Household Pulse Survey estimates of COVID-19 vaccine hesitancy: https://data.cdc.gov/stories/s/Vaccine-Hesitancy-for-COVID-19/cnd2-a6zw/ Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/  Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165    Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.    For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Omicron came and flipped everything we thought we knew about how to act during COVID up in the air. It also made another edition of Safe or Not Safe necessary. This time around, Andy brings in two new contestants, epidemiologist Katelyn Jetelina and former guest host Dr. Bob Wachter, to answer your questions about indoor dining, outdoor transmission, and how to keep kids under five and those who are immunocompromised as safe as possible. After you finish listening, head over to Twitter and tell Andy who you think won: #TeamKatelyn or #TeamBob.   Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt.    Follow Katelyn @dr_kkjetelina and Bob @Bob_Wachter on Twitter.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.    Support the show by checking out our sponsors!   Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/  Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Because at CVS Health, healthier happens together. Learn more at cvshealth.com.   Check out these resources from today’s episode:    Check out all the organizations that In the Bubble’s host profits have gone to: World Central Kitchen, Navajo & Hopi Relief Fund, Central Valley Community Foundation, Safer Foundation, Sakina Halal Grill, YWCA Minneapolis, Get Us PPE, Still Kickin, Community Foundation of Northwest Mississippi, Survivor Corps, International Rescue Committee, Black Doctors COVID-19 Consortium, and Invisible Hands Deliver   Check out all of Katelyn’s posts on her Your Local Epidemiologist Substack: https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/ Read more on the likelihood of getting long COVID if you’re vaccinated, using data out of Israel: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00177-5 Here’s more on what Israel is learning about a 4th dose of the mRNA vaccines: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/25/world/europe/israel-fourth-covid-dose.html Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/  Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165    Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.    For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.