

In the Bubble with Andy Slavitt
Lemonada Media
In the Bubble is the go to place to learn more about the most important news events on YOUR mind. We take the time that’s needed to go beyond the headlines with A list guests from Andy's bubble. From Tina Fay to Tony Fauci. From the next vaccine to the next election issue. To an occasional dad joke. It’s Actual Facts from Actual Experts, every Wednesday from Lemonada Media.
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May 9, 2022 • 52min
One Million COVID Deaths, Who is Accountable? (with Trump Coronavirus Coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx)
As the U.S. hits the tragic milestone of 1,000,000 deaths, Andy talks with Dr. Deborah Birx to explore how it happened and some of the most pivotal moments of President Donald Trump’s COVID response. Birx says she knew she wouldn’t win any popularity contests when she agreed to serve as the White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator under Trump in 2020. She was right. Andy gives Birx a chance to respond to criticisms that her public praise of Trump undermined the opportunity to save more lives. The conversation gets heated as it goes on. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Because at CVS Health, healthier happens together. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Check out Dr. Deborah Birx’s new book, “Silent Invasion,” here: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/silent-invasion-deborah-birx Find vaccines, masks, testing, treatments, and other resources in your community here: https://www.covid.gov/ Order Andy’s book, “Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response”: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

May 6, 2022 • 43min
Post-Roe America up Close: 1,000 Miles to an Abortion
A post-Roe America could become a reality soon, if Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito’s draft ruling becomes the court’s final decision. From the West Alabama Women’s Center in Tuscaloosa, Robin Marty tells Andy how the decision would impact her patients from day one, and urges Americans with privilege to consider how far they’ll go to protect the rights of others. Andy asks Columbia Law School professor Carol Sanger which of Alito’s arguments stuck out to her and what people can do today to help bring the right to choose back to states that may lose it. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt on Twitter. Follow Robin @robinmarty and Carol @carolsangernyc on Twitter. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Because at CVS Health, healthier happens together. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Order Carol Sanger’s book, “About Abortion – Terminating Pregnancy in Twenty-First-Century America”: https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674737723 Order Robin Marty’s book, “The New Handbook for a Post-Roe America”: https://www.sevenstories.com/books/4280-the-new-handbook-for-a-post-roe-america Learn about Aid Access, an organization that helps people access abortion pills if healthy and under 10 weeks pregnant: https://aidaccess.org/en/ Find vaccines, masks, testing, treatments, and other resources in your community here: https://www.covid.gov/ Order Andy’s book, “Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response”: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

May 4, 2022 • 53min
Twice as Likely to Die from COVID (with Dr. Joneigh Khaldun)
Early on in the pandemic, people of color were nearly twice as likely to die from COVID-19. Those health inequities weren’t surprising to Dr. Joneigh Khaldun, who was among the first public health officials in the nation to demand her state of Michigan collect race and ethnicity data on COVID patients. In fact, solving them has been her life’s work. Now the chief health equity officer at CVS Health, Joneigh tells Andy where her passion for improving the health of underserved communities stems from, including her own personal experience being dismissed by doctors, and the tangible ways the health care system can do better. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt. Follow Joneigh Khaldun on Twitter @DrKhaldun. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Because at CVS Health, healthier happens together. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Find out what the Biden administration plans to do to address systemic inequities that lead to worse maternal outcomes for Black, Native American, and rural women: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/04/13/fact-sheet-biden-harris-administration-announces-additional-actions-in-response-to-vice-president-harriss-call-to-action-on-maternal-health/ Find vaccines, masks, testing, treatments, and other resources in your community here: https://www.covid.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

May 3, 2022 • 2min
The Bubble Expands (Official Trailer)
Since the beginning of the pandemic shutdown, In the Bubble has been your home for facts, guidance, and a slice of hope in a hopeless time. Now, as we emerge from our COVID bubbles, there are still lots of issues that Andy wants to help break down without weighing you down. That’s why In the Bubble is expanding to three days a week. In addition to timely and important information about COVID-19, the show will make sense of the breaking and slow burn news cycles with thoughtful opinions and expert analysis from the people making the news. Catch us fresh on your feeds every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 28, 2022 • 53min
Exclusive: FDA Commissioner on COVID-19 Vaccine for Kids 0-5 (with Robert Califf)
Many parents with young children have one question: When will my kid be eligible for a COVID-19 vaccine? They got one step closer to an answer this week, when Moderna filed an Emergency Use Authorization for a vaccine the company says is safe and effective for kids ages 6 months through 5 years. FDA Commissioner Robert Califf tells Andy what’s holding up approval, why getting the dose right is so critically important, and whether rumors that the FDA would wait for data on a three-dose vaccine from Pfizer before clearing a two-dose vaccine from Moderna are true. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow Robert Califf on Twitter @DrCaliff_FDA. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Because at CVS Health, healthier happens together. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Find vaccines, masks, testing, treatments, and other resources in your community here: https://www.covid.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 27, 2022 • 46min
Are We on Our Way to a Game-Changing Flu Vaccine? (with Uwe Schoenbeck)
For decades, the messenger RNA (mRNA) platform was seen as too unstable and expensive to be used in vaccines or therapeutic medicines. That changed when the COVID-19 pandemic sparked enough urgency, resources, and money to bring about a breakthrough. Andy speaks with Uwe Schoenbeck, the chief scientific officer for Pfizer's Emerging Science & Innovation team, about what makes the mRNA platform more nimble than conventional methods and its potential future uses, including a game-changing flu vaccine and gene editing therapeutics for cancers, Alzheimer's, and HIV/AIDS. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Because at CVS Health, healthier happens together. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Learn more about Pfizer’s Centers for Therapeutic Innovation: https://www.pfizercti.com/ We won a Webby! Thanks for voting for us for Best Health and Wellness Podcast: https://winners.webbyawards.com/winners/podcasts/general-series/health-wellness?years=0&sort=0 Find vaccines, masks, testing, treatments, and other resources in your community here: https://www.covid.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 25, 2022 • 55min
COVID Update: Making Sense of Maskless Travel
Some passengers ripped off their masks in jubilee while others froze in horror when airlines across the country announced mid-flight that a Florida judge had struck down the CDC’s travel mask mandate last week. What does this ruling mean for air travel and daily commutes on public transit? Andy speaks with epidemiologist Katelyn Jetelina about why you should keep your mask on and how to minimize your risk while traveling amid unmasked passengers. And global health law professor Lawrence Gostin explains what could happen if the justice department’s appeal makes it to the Supreme Court. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt. Follow Katelyn Jetelina @dr_kkjetelina and Lawrence Gostin @LawrenceGostin. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Because at CVS Health, healthier happens together. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Check out Katelyn’s thorough explanation of SARS-CoV-2 transmission on planes: https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/sars-cov-2-transmission-on-planes?s=r Find out why Lawrence and other legal experts say Judge Kathryn Kimball Mizelle misunderstood public health law: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/04/19/1093641691/mask-mandate-judge-public-health-sanitation Find vaccines, masks, testing, treatments, and other resources in your community here: https://www.covid.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 20, 2022 • 56min
How the Pandemic Changed Health Care (with Dr. Alan Lotvin)
What if we could take the best of what we learned from the pandemic to build a better and more equitable health care system? What would it look like? That question is at the center of Andy’s conversation with CVS Health’s Executive Vice President Alan Lotvin. Alan envisions a future where the expertise of pharmacists and nurse practitioners is better utilized to help aid the labor shortage. And he believes wearable health technology could become as essential as your wallet, leading to fast, convenient, and personalized health care without stepping into a doctor’s office. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow Alan Lotvin on Twitter @AlanLotvinMD. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Because at CVS Health, healthier happens together. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: In the Bubble is nominated for two Webby Awards and voting ends April 21! Vote for Andy in the Best Host category here: bit.ly/VoteBestHost Vote for the show in the Health & Wellness category here: bit.ly/InTheBubble Find vaccines, masks, testing, treatments, and other resources in your community here: https://www.covid.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 18, 2022 • 56min
Our Next COVID Vaccines (with Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla)
Andy sits down with Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla, who is cautiously optimistic that a vaccine for children under 5 will get approved by June and a variant-specific vaccine that better protects against Omicron will be approved in the fall. Albert stresses the seriousness of Long COVID, comparing its severity to cardiovascular diseases. And Andy traces a throughline between the harrowing journey of Albert’s parents, who narrowly escaped the Holocaust, and the CEO’s own journey racing the clock to create a vaccine to save lives. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow Albert Bourla on Twitter @AlbertBourla. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Because at CVS Health, healthier happens together. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: In the Bubble is nominated for two Webby Awards! Vote for Andy in the Best Host category here: bit.ly/VoteBestHost Vote for the show in the Health & Wellness category here: bit.ly/InTheBubble Order Albert Bourla’s book, “Moonshot,” here: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/moonshot-dr-albert-bourla Find vaccines, masks, testing, treatments, and other resources in your community here: https://www.covid.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 16, 2022 • 53min
Last Day Preview: Everyone Out Here is Armed
Last Day is back for season 3, and in episode 1, our team travels to Montana, where cowboy culture reigns supreme, everyone is armed, and 86% of firearm deaths are suicides. There, we meet a couple that represents all the contradictions at the root of America’s gun debate: One is a suicide prevention advocate, and the other is the most adamant Second Amendment supporter we’ve ever met. Plus, our team tries out shooting some really big guns. To hear the next episode of Last Day, search for Last Day wherever you are listening right now or click https://link.chtbl.com/LastDay.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


