
The Rest Is Money
Robert Peston and Steph McGovern bring you insightful business and finance stories.Join Robert Peston and Steph McGovern as they delve into the key challenges and opportunities facing today’s business world. From the complexities of tech investments to the impact of political decisions on global markets, this podcast offers valuable perspectives on current financial topics. Whether discussing business funding, economic policies, or corporate strategies, they provide listeners with the tools to understand today’s fast-evolving market.Each episode brings expert analysis on important issues, including market regulations, economic recovery, and the forces shaping the future of work. Robert and Steph bring you the latest insights from influential leaders and top entrepreneurs, making this podcast a must-listen for anyone interested in business growth, financial trends, and the evolving economic landscape.For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com.
Latest episodes

Mar 20, 2025 • 38min
148. How Do You Decide Who Is Too Sick To Work?
Robert and Steph discuss the welfare conundrum - how do you get more people into work when many businesses are not equipped or incentivised to provide the jobs? And is part of the problem an over-medicalisation of life’s ups and downs? Plus, how can we better prepare the next generation for the world of work?Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Visit monzo.com/business-bankingEmail: restismoney@gmail.comX: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice HorrellProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mar 17, 2025 • 40min
147. What’s Wrong With Labour’s Welfare Reforms?
Robert is back with Andy Haldane, looking ahead to the Spring Statement, and discussing proposed welfare reform. But are these changes really about helping people back into work, or brutal cost saving measures? Will they come with a sufficient skills package? And how can the government best help to lift people out of precarious, low-skilled jobs to give them, and the economy, the best chance of thriving?Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Email: restismoney@gmail.comX: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producers: India Dunkley and Alice HorrellProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mar 13, 2025 • 49min
146. Does Trump Risk Sparking A Global Financial Crisis?
Andy Haldane, Chief Executive of the Royal Society of Arts and former chief economist at the Bank of England, dives deep into the potential fallout from Trump's policies on global finance. He discusses how trade tariffs impact the automotive sector and raises concerns over rising U.S. economic instability. Haldane analyzes the interconnectivity of global markets, especially the U.S. dollar's role, while examining Europe's resilience and innovation amid crises. He also poses questions about regional financial fragmentation and the future of policy reforms.

Mar 10, 2025 • 56min
145. Hoffman: Europe Is Regulating Itself Out Of The AI Race
This week Steph and Robert speak to Reid Hoffman, the co-founder of LinkedIn and an early investor in tech giants like Facebook and OpenAI. Reid gives us his take on Musk’s government efficiency drive, and considers whether a country can be run like a business. How can governments balance innovation and regulation? And, how can AI give us superpowers to tackle things like climate change and job market instability?Visit monzo.com/business-bankingSign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Email: restismoney@gmail.comX: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Mar 6, 2025 • 42min
144. The European Silver Lining to Trump’s Global Gangsterism
Robert and Steph dive into the fallout from Trump’s tariffs, pondering who bears the true cost. They discuss the potential for European unity as a response to global pressures, including defense and economic regeneration. The pair highlight how enhanced EU-UK relations could spur growth in manufacturing sectors. They also tackle the importance of strategic defense spending amidst rising geopolitical tensions and its implications for job creation, setting the stage for tech innovations in the future.

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Feb 28, 2025 • 45min
143. Was Starmer Right To Woo Trump?
A recent trip by the British Prime Minister stirs up tensions in U.S.-Ukraine relations as Trump withdraws support from Kiev. The discussion dives into the implications for UK-American trade deals and the controversial decision to cut aid for defense spending. Insights emerge on the royal invitation to Trump and its impact on diplomatic relations. Leaders reflect on Trump’s unpredictable nature and the delicate balance between military aid and foreign policy. The complexities of international relationships and the ramifications of these decisions are thoroughly explored.

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Feb 27, 2025 • 41min
142. Are We In A Golden Era Of Corruption?
Alastair Campbell, former communications director for Tony Blair, dives into the murky waters of geopolitics and corruption. He discusses the recent U.S.-Ukraine deal over mineral resources and the implications of Trump's controversial remarks about Zelensky. The conversation shifts to the upcoming meeting between Keir Starmer and Trump, examining political strategies and potential fallout. Campbell also reflects on the risks of narcissism in leadership and its impact on international relations, revealing the complex interplay of personality and politics.

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Feb 24, 2025 • 40min
141. Why Aren’t UK Pension Funds Backing Britain?
In this conversation, Michael Tory, co-founder of Ondra and a veteran of the financial sector, discusses the alarming underperformance of the UK stock market and its effect on living standards. He highlights the drastic decline in British pension funds' investments, contrasting it with the successful foreign acquisitions revitalizing local firms. The dialogue also delves into necessary reforms in pension schemes and the challenges faced by funds in capitalizing on lucrative opportunities due to governmental and industry stagnation.

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Feb 20, 2025 • 36min
140. How Do The Bank of England Really Make Their Decisions?
Discover the surprising truth about inflation and the factors driving it, from rising school fees to food prices. Delve into the geopolitical landscape, with discussions on the implications of frozen Russian assets for Ukraine and U.S.-Russia relations. Explore how AI is reshaping the workforce, both displacing jobs and boosting productivity. The conversation also highlights the importance of recognizing business indicators and leveraging tax incentives for growth. Tune in for insights that connect economics with global events!

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Feb 17, 2025 • 44min
139. Why Shopping Will Never Be The Same Again
Kate Ancketill, a retail consultant and CEO of GDR, dives into the future of shopping driven by AI. She discusses how every click and cursor movement is analyzed to shape our buying habits. The conversation highlights the role of AI assistants and celebrity avatars in consumer engagement. Ancketill also addresses the challenges retailers face, from tackling theft to adapting to low consumer confidence, while underscoring the need for innovative strategies in a rapidly evolving retail landscape.