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Robert Peston and Steph McGovern bring you insightful business and finance stories.Join Robert Peston and Steph McGovern as they delve into the key challenges and opportunities facing today’s business world. From the complexities of tech investments to the impact of political decisions on global markets, this podcast offers valuable perspectives on current financial topics. Whether discussing business funding, economic policies, or corporate strategies, they provide listeners with the tools to understand today’s fast-evolving market.Each episode brings expert analysis on important issues, including market regulations, economic recovery, and the forces shaping the future of work. Robert and Steph bring you the latest insights from influential leaders and top entrepreneurs, making this podcast a must-listen for anyone interested in business growth, financial trends, and the evolving economic landscape.For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com.
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Aug 3, 2025 • 34min
195. Why The EU Accepted A Raw Deal With Trump
Mike Bird, Wall Street Editor for The Economist and co-host of Money Talk, dives into the complexities of global trade deals under the Trump administration. He discusses the implications of hastily put-together agreements and the $600 billion energy deal with the EU. The conversation reveals concerns about new tariffs and their unpredictable effects on consumers and businesses. Bird critiques the nuanced relationship between the US and Europe regarding defense spending and trade dynamics, shedding light on how tariffs shape both markets and political landscapes.

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Jul 30, 2025 • 38min
194. How A £600bn 'Ghost Market’ Is Being Neglected
Heather Jackson, CEO of GenM, is on a mission to revolutionize how retailers cater to menopausal women, a rapidly growing consumer demographic. She discusses the untapped economic potential of this 'ghost market,' emphasizing that 15 million in the UK alone deserve better attention. Topics include the 'M Tick' initiative aimed at ensuring trustworthy products, the empowerment narrative surrounding menopause, and the urgent call for brands to acknowledge the significant socioeconomic impacts of neglecting this critical group of shoppers.

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Jul 27, 2025 • 31min
193. How Labour Could Have Avoided Tax Rises
The discussion dives into whether political leaders should prioritize growth over manifesto commitments. It explores better EU trade negotiations to mitigate public finance black holes and potential tax increases. The conversation also highlights how small businesses are evading billions in taxes and the impacts of AI on retail. Additionally, the rise of cashless transactions is examined, revealing a staggering tax gap and the alarming rise of tax avoidance practices, urging vigilance among small business employers.

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Jul 23, 2025 • 29min
192. Can We Cope With Trump’s 15% Permanent Global Tariff?
The podcast dives into the ruthless world of capitalism, highlighting personal tragedies alongside corporate dramas. It dissects the ongoing legal battle involving Hewlett-Packard Enterprises and Mike Lynch's estate, questioning corporate ethics. A fascinating look at the implications of a proposed 15% global tax reveals potential seismic shifts in the economy. Discussions of 2025 suggest it could be a transformative year, with geopolitical tensions and AI's impact on the workforce. Historical parallels, like the Great Fire of London, add a gripping layer to the conversation.

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Jul 20, 2025 • 40min
191. Is The Government’s British Business Bank Bold Enough?
Stephen Welton, Chair of the British Business Bank and founder of the British Growth Fund, discusses the vital role his bank plays in supporting small enterprises. He emphasizes the need for innovative approaches to funding and explores how to keep unicorns from relocating to the U.S. The conversation also delves into rethinking pension strategies to make them more appealing to younger investors, and the importance of mobilizing pension funds for tech startups, fostering a culture of equity investing among the next generation.

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Jul 16, 2025 • 30min
190. Why The UK Lost Its Appetite For Risk
The podcast delves into the UK's shifting attitudes towards investment and risk, questioning whether advertising can inspire more people to invest. It discusses the potential pitfalls of uniting retail and investment banking. Insights from the credit crunch reveal how it dampened the public's appetite for risk. There's an urgent call for a cultural shift toward financial responsibility and entrepreneurship, particularly among youth. The conversation also explores the complexities of consumer protection in a changing banking landscape.

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Jul 13, 2025 • 37min
189. What Would The Outgoing Boss Of The IFS Do If He Was Chancellor?
Join Paul Johnson, the outgoing head of the Institute for Fiscal Studies and a leading expert in public finances, as he tackles pressing economic questions facing the UK. Discover why the nation struggles with debt and budget deficits and whether austerity measures helped or hindered progress. Johnson reflects on lessons learned from the pandemic and Brexit, critiques the current tax system's complexity, and proposes a fairer approach to taxation. His insights on global austerity experiences add a seasoned perspective to the conversation.

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Jul 9, 2025 • 49min
188. How Politics is Bankrupting Britain
Paul Johnson, the outgoing head of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, shares his insights on the UK's looming fiscal crisis. He discusses the Office for Budget Responsibility's warnings and critiques the effectiveness of current fiscal rules amid major historical challenges like Brexit and COVID-19. The conversation dives into Britain's rising national debt, unfunded defense spending, and the complexities of the UK’s taxation system. Johnson emphasizes the urgent need for tax reform and the potential consequences for economic growth as the government navigates these turbulent waters.

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Jul 6, 2025 • 38min
187. Is It Time To Impose Capital Taxes On Our Homes?
This discussion features Tom Tugendhat, Conservative MP and former Minister for Security, who draws on his diverse background to explore radical solutions for the UK's housing market. He challenges the notion that homeownership should remain untouchable while asking whether homes should be taxed as capital gains. The conversation dives into how to better allocate wealth for economic growth, reflects on the rising distrust among younger generations towards traditional financial structures, and argues for tax reforms aimed at tackling economic inequalities.

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Jul 2, 2025 • 43min
186. Was Reeves To Blame For The Welfare Debacle?
The discussion dives into the contentious welfare reforms and the backlash over cuts to disability benefits. MPs express concern over fiscal rules that may worsen the situation for vulnerable populations. There's a heated debate on how the Labour Party can maintain its election-winning agenda amidst these crises. Additionally, the podcast touches on the need for alternative treatments for schizophrenia and the broader implications of economic uncertainty on taxation strategies. It’s a mix of politics, social issues, and financial insights that keeps listeners engaged.