

Relevant Recovery
Donnie & Heather
Hosts Heather & Donnie discuss challenges relevant to recovery. Topics include chemical dependencies on a variety of substances, as well as food, social media, money and much more. They discuss everything from mental health, anxiety, depression, fear, marriage and resentment. Join Heather and Donnie as they share their personal experience with recovery and sobriety.
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Jul 27, 2025 • 1h 22min
Seeking Contentment - Episode 212
What’s the difference between happiness and true contentment? In this episode, we explore how recovery can get hijacked by counterfeit comforts—and how real peace comes through surrender, presence, and trust in God.

Jul 20, 2025 • 1h 23min
All About Abstinence - Episode 211
In this spicy episode, we break down what abstinence-based recovery means, how it differs from other pathways, and why clarity around definitions is critical. We explore why blending models can compromise recovery, and why honoring each path helps everyone heal.
NIH took the article down but here is a link to a website discussing the same article: https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/682790

Jul 13, 2025 • 1h 11min
When Life Gets Lifey - Episode 210
In this raw episode, Donnie and Heather open up about navigating major life transitions. They share what it looks like to trust God in the middle of chaos and uncertainty, and how recovery has taught them to stay grounded when life is anything but.

Jul 5, 2025 • 1h 4min
Recovered Isn’t Cured - Episode 209
We’ve recovered—but we’re not cured. In this episode, we break down the Big Book’s message about the daily spiritual solution to alcoholism. Recovery brings freedom from obsession, but we still need connection, humility, and daily action to stay well.

Jun 29, 2025 • 1h 19min
2-Fold vs 3-Fold Argument - Episode 208
In this episode, we dive into a common debate within the 12-step community — is alcoholism a 2-fold or 3-fold illness? We examine the language, confusion, and implications associated with both perspectives. While the allergy of the body and the obsession of the mind are the only qualifying markers of alcoholism, many overlook the universal human condition: the spiritual malady. We’ll explain why the real solution to all forms of brokenness — whether alcohol, drugs, food, or anything else — is spiritual in nature. Let’s clear up the language and get back to the heart of the matter: reconnection with Power.

Jun 23, 2025 • 1h 18min
The Ripple Effect - Episode 207
Sometimes it’s not the big moments, but the small, quiet ones that change everything. In this episode, we explore The Ripple Effect—how one simple decision, conversation, or act of obedience can set off a chain reaction that’s far greater than we could ever imagine.

Jun 15, 2025 • 1h 15min
When God Says Jump - Episode 206
In today’s episode, we’ll talk about what it means to actually listen when God says move, even when it feels like you’re stepping off a cliff. No script, no filter—just faith, fear, and what it looks like to trust in the unknown.

Jun 8, 2025 • 1h 42min
Emotional Sobriety - Episode 205
In this episode, we dive into the concept of Emotional Sobriety with Gordan —what it really means to stay emotionally balanced in recovery. Beyond just abstaining from substances, emotional sobriety is about developing resilience, emotional maturity, and inner peace. Whether you're in recovery or supporting someone who is, this conversation offers insight and hope for deeper healing.

Jun 1, 2025 • 1h 20min
Gone Fishing - Episode 204
In this heartfelt and insightful episode, Heather and Donnie dive into how fishing mirrors the experience of helping others in recovery. Cast your line and join the conversation—you never know what you might reel in.

May 19, 2025 • 1h 40min
Taking The Steps Quickly - Episode 203
On this episode Heather and Donnie discuss how quickly to work the steps according to the Big Book … and Dr Bob. Episode #203