
Relevant Recovery
Hosts Heather & Donnie discuss challenges relevant to recovery. Topics include chemical dependencies on a variety of substances, as well as food, social media, money and much more. They discuss everything from mental health, anxiety, depression, fear, marriage and resentment. Join Heather and Donnie as they share their personal experience with recovery and sobriety.
Latest episodes

Jun 29, 2025 • 1h 19min
2-Fold vs 3-Fold Argument
In this episode, we dive into a common debate within the 12-step community — is alcoholism a 2-fold or 3-fold illness? We examine the language, confusion, and implications associated with both perspectives. While the allergy of the body and the obsession of the mind are the only qualifying markers of alcoholism, many overlook the universal human condition: the spiritual malady. We’ll explain why the real solution to all forms of brokenness — whether alcohol, drugs, food, or anything else — is spiritual in nature. Let’s clear up the language and get back to the heart of the matter: reconnection with Power.

Jun 23, 2025 • 1h 18min
The Ripple Effect - Episode 207
Sometimes it’s not the big moments, but the small, quiet ones that change everything. In this episode, we explore The Ripple Effect—how one simple decision, conversation, or act of obedience can set off a chain reaction that’s far greater than we could ever imagine.

Jun 15, 2025 • 1h 15min
When God Says Jump - 206
In today’s episode, we’ll talk about what it means to actually listen when God says move, even when it feels like you’re stepping off a cliff. No script, no filter—just faith, fear, and what it looks like to trust in the unknown.

Jun 8, 2025 • 1h 42min
Emotional Sobriety - Episode 205
In this episode, we dive into the concept of Emotional Sobriety with Gordan —what it really means to stay emotionally balanced in recovery. Beyond just abstaining from substances, emotional sobriety is about developing resilience, emotional maturity, and inner peace. Whether you're in recovery or supporting someone who is, this conversation offers insight and hope for deeper healing.

Jun 1, 2025 • 1h 20min
Gone Fishing - Episode 204
In this heartfelt and insightful episode, Heather and Donnie dive into how fishing mirrors the experience of helping others in recovery. Cast your line and join the conversation—you never know what you might reel in.

May 19, 2025 • 1h 40min
Taking The Steps Quickly
On this episode Heather and Donnie discuss how quickly to work the steps according to the Big Book … and Dr Bob. Episode #203

May 10, 2025 • 1h 26min
Reacting to Relapse
On this episode Heather and Donnie give tips on how the fellowship and the family should react to a relapse. Episode #202

May 4, 2025 • 1h 20min
Back to basics: What is an Alcoholic
On this episode we get back to basics on what makes someone an alcoholic. What are the different types of drinkers, and who needs to work the steps to maintain sobriety? Episode #201

Apr 28, 2025 • 1h 30min
Are you too busy?
On this episode Donnie and Heather discuss being too busy for recovery. It's common for people in recovery to let life get in the way of the program and usually ends in a relapse at some point. Episode #200

Apr 20, 2025 • 1h 32min
Co-Dependency
How codependency manifests in our relationships, the problems it can cause, and the solution for it. Episode #199.