
DejaVue
Welcome to DejaVue, the Vue podcast you didn't know you needed until now! Join Michael Thiessen and Alexander Lichter on a thrilling journey through the world of Vue and Nuxt.
Get ready for weekly episodes packed with insights, updates, and deep dives into everything Vue-related. From component libraries to best practices, and beyond, they've got you covered.
Latest episodes

Oct 10, 2024 • 57min
Inertia.js (with Joe Tannenbaum)
Vue.js can be used in many different ways - with a meta framework, as a plain SPA, via the script tag and also with Inertia! Created in the Laravel ecosystem with adapters for various back- end front-end frameworks, Alex and Michael got a special guest on the episode who couldn't fit better to illustrate what Inertia is capable of.Joe Tannenbaum, Software Engineer at Laravel and Inertia contributor goes all in-depth on the capabilities of the library, as well as sweet features and changes coming up for the future Inertia v2 release.Looking for an easy way to write applications? After this episode, you might have found it.Enjoy the episode!Our GuestJoe TannenbaumWebsiteTwitterChapters(00:00) - Welcome to DejaVue
(00:56) - What is Laravel and when did you got into it?
(05:40) - Does Laravel has starter kits?
(07:41) - Laravel Cloud, funding and growth
(13:22) - What are TUIs?
(16:37) - What is Inertia?
(22:15) - How would Authentication work with Inertia?
(24:01) - Adapters for Phoenix and Rails
(25:08) - Feature in Inertia version 2
(32:53) - Breaking changes for v2
(33:56) - Composition API or Options API?
(37:27) - What part is the routing layer?
(38:48) - Further Inertia Helpers
(41:14) - Inertia's SSR story
(45:17) - Data fetching
(46:48) - When not to Inertia?
(47:45) - How much do you think about Inertia when coding?
(50:09) - Too many amazing things to use
(52:20) - Wasn't Inertia "done"?
(54:23) - Wrapping up
Links and ResourcesGet 15% OFF for your Vue Toronto ticket with code DEJAVUE *Jess Archer - "Unveiling Laravel Prompts"Joe Tannenbaum - "Terminal UIs" Inertia.jsLaravelLivewireYour HostsAlexander LichterTwitterYouTubeWebsiteMichael ThiessenTwitterYouTubeWebsite---Links marked with * are affiliate links. We get a small commission when you register for the service through our link. This helps us to keep the podcast running. We only include affiliate links for services mentioned in the episode or that we use ourselves.

Oct 3, 2024 • 41min
Vue Performance Tips
Vue is fast (actually the fastest SSR framework)! But sometimes apps might a bit more fine-tuning. And by sometimes, we mean rarely.Still, it can happen - so join Alex and Michael in this DejaVue episode to dive into what tools Vue gives us to improve the frameworks' performance. Further, they dive into the recent SSR benchmark and what it means for you as a developer, as well as striving topics like perceived performance. Enjoy the episode! Chapters(00:00) - Intro
(01:14) - The topic of this episode - Performance
(02:05) - Optimizing for performance from the beginning?
(04:03) - Prop stability
(08:18) - v-once
(10:45) - v-memo
(12:57) - Does v-pre fit into the mix?
(14:28) - Recalculation of computed's
(20:47) - Virtualization
(24:05) - shallowRef
(27:25) - Vapor Mode in the future
(28:44) - Server Side Rendering
(29:14) - The recent SSR benchmark
(31:35) - Results of the benchmark
(32:00) - What does this mean for you?
(35:19) - Perceived performance
(37:33) - Improving SSR performance
(39:12) - VueConf Toronto
(40:20) - Wrapping up
Links and Resources15% discount for the VueConf Toronto* with code DEJAVUEDejaVue #E026 - Vue 3.5 AnalyzedDejaVue #E027 - Working at AWS (with Erik Hanchett)v-oncev-memov-preThe shallowRef guidePerformance Vue DocsMichael Reactivity From Scratch Free CourseVapor ModeReading vuejs/core-vaporDejaVue #E001 - The Need for Server-Side Rendering (SSR)Alex' SSR Benchmark videoLinks marked with * are affiliate links. We get a small commission when you register for the service through our link. This helps us to keep the podcast running. We only include affiliate links for services mentioned in the episode or that we use ourselves.

Sep 26, 2024 • 54min
Working at AWS (with Erik Hanchett)
While Alex is at PragVue, Michael is joined by Developer Advocate Erik Hanchett who works at no other company than AWS. In this DejaVue episode, they discuss the different duties of a Developer Advocate and skills one need to become one, as well as everything around content creation and conferences.In addition, Erik shares how it is to write Vue code as a Software Engineer at AWS, which he did for multiple years. Enjoy the episode!Our GuestErik HanchettWebsiteTwitterYouTubeChapters(00:00) - Welcome to DejaVue
(00:35) - How would you describe your job?
(03:20) - Do you miss the deep technical problems?
(09:41) - Duties when speaking at a conference
(12:50) - What is Developer Advocacy?
(23:30) - Which skills do you need to be a Developer Advocate?
(26:40) - Your first content pieces doesn't have to be perfect
(28:16) - First Five unreleased DejaVue episodes
(29:44) - Putting yourself out there
(32:09) - Erik's first podcast guest appearance ever
(37:10) - Using Vue.js at Amazon Web Services
(41:29) - How did you get into Vue?
(43:16) - Working on AWS Open Source projects
(45:06) - Migrating a library from Vue 2 to Vue 3
(49:48) - Nested Slot Bonanza
(51:34) - Angular, React and Vue devs in the same project
(52:15) - Wrapping up
Links and ResourcesGet 15% OFF for your Vue Toronto ticket with code DEJAVUE *AWS AmplifyVueUseVue DemiXStateYour HostMichael ThiessenTwitterYouTubeWebsite---Links marked with * are affiliate links. We get a small commission when you register for the service through our link. This helps us to keep the podcast running. We only include affiliate links for services mentioned in the episode or that we use ourselves.

Sep 19, 2024 • 44min
Vue 3.5 Analyzed
Vue 3.5 came out recently, so why not using the opportunity to dive into the features of the new minor version? Michael and Alex will do so and discuss performance improvements, SSR features and new composables in detail.If you wondered what the difference of the future Lazy Hydration and existing async components or what other features are part of the new minor, it is time to tune in ✨Enjoy the episode! Chapters(00:00) - Welcome to DejaVue
(01:26) - Performance improvements in 3.5
(04:59) - Props Destructuring out of experimental
(12:23) - SSR Improvements
(12:52) - Lazy Hydration
(17:10) - How is Lazy Hydration different to existing async components?
(21:42) - useId
(25:25) - data-allow-mismatch
(29:02) - Web Component improvements
(31:42) - useTemplateRef
(34:34) - Deferred Teleports
(38:45) - onWatcherCleanup
(42:37) - Wrapping up
Links and Resources10% discount for the vue.js de Conf in Bonn, Germany* with code DEJAVUEDejaVue #E016 - The Future of Vue.js (with Evan You)Vue 3.5 announcement blog postRolldownViteEvan's Tweet about Vue using Rolldown (there are more though!)Props Destructure RFC (now part of core)DejaVue #E001 - The Need for Server-Side Rendering (SSR)Hydration Error blog postVue.js Hydration ExplainedLazy Hydration in Nuxt (voice your opinion!)Volkswagen packageVolarDejaVue #E006 - Nuxt Server Components (with Julien Huang)DejaVue #E004 - Teleports and When to Use ThemDejaVue #E011 - Learning new Vue Features and Concepts (with LearnVue aka. Matt Maribojoc)VueUseLinks marked with * are affiliate links. We get a small commission when you register for the service through our link. This helps us to keep the podcast running. We only include affiliate links for services mentioned in the episode or that we use ourselves.

Sep 12, 2024 • 47min
Nuxt Modules and Open Source at work (with Lucie Haberer)
In this episode, Alex is joined by fellow Nuxt core team member Lucie Haberer, who is not only a DX Engineer at Prismic, doing open source but also public speaking.Together they talk about Lucie's recent free Nuxt and Nuxt UI course and how she got into Vue and Nuxt. Lucie explains further why she fell in love with Nuxt modules and which modules she built so far - with some enlightening surprise there!In addition, they talk about how Open Source works at Prismic - from when they do open source over to sponsoring projects and contributing - and many more insights. Enjoy the episode!Chapters(00:00) - Welcome to DejaVue
(00:49) - A Free Nuxt UI Course
(04:02) - How you got into Vue.js
(06:42) - From Building a Nuxt module for SSG to joining the core team
(13:48) - A module to control your smart lightbulb?
(14:35) - Running a Nuxt module in every Nuxt app on the computer
(19:33) - Public Speaking and Conferences
(23:41) - Local Meetups
(26:26) - Lucie's responsibilities in the Nuxt team
(27:27) - Inbox 0 and GitHub notifications
(28:55) - Building vs. working with a framework
(31:21) - Monkey patching - but don't forget to raise an issue!
(32:11) - Being a DX Engineer
(35:20) - Prismic and Open Source
(40:56) - Open Source Sponsoring
(43:00) - Working with other frameworks
(45:36) - Wrapping up
Links and Resources$10 off for Michael's Nuxt Tips Collection* with this link and the code DEJAVUE10% discount for the vue.js de Conf in Bonn, Germany* with code DEJAVUEPrismicFree Nuxt UI CourseunheadNuxtLink RFC.nuxtrcNuxt Devtools DiscussiondefuDejaVue #E024 - Between Agency Work and Open Source (with Zoey and Dan from SIDESTREAM)Links marked with * are affiliate links. We get a small commission when you register for the service through our link. This helps us to keep the podcast running. We only include affiliate links for services mentioned in the episode or that we use ourselves.

Sep 5, 2024 • 1h 17min
Between Agency Work and Open Source (with Zoey and Dan from SIDESTREAM)
Zoey and Dan from SIDESTREAM join the conversation, bringing their expertise in open-source Nuxt modules. They explore how open-source initiatives enhance their agency work, the nuances of hiring in the Vue job market, and the tech stack choices that set them apart. The duo discusses the development of Sidebase from a template, their migration to TypeScript, and the benefits of community engagement in open-source. They also delve into the development of authentication modules and the evolving landscape of collaborating in the tech community. It's an insightful dive into innovation and cooperation!

Aug 29, 2024 • 57min
TypeScript and Content Creation (with Matt Pocock)
This episode of DejaVue includes not only knowledge but also a certain degree of magic, as Alex and Michael meet up with the one and only TypeScript Wizard Matt Pocock. Together, they talk about how he became a full-time educator and what the pros and cons are, then of course discussing everything around TypeScript - from Types vs. Interfaces, any vs. unknown, Matt's ts-reset library, Flappy Bird in TypeScript and more amazing nuggetsEnjoy the episode!Chapters(00:00) - Welcome to DejaVue
(02:08) - How Matt came to join DejaVue
(03:03) - Becoming a full time TypeScript educator
(05:10) - What do you miss when doing full time content creation?
(08:16) - Being an employee vs. self-employed
(14:42) - Why using TypeScript?
(19:59) - TypeScript only for libraries?
(22:40) - Migrating JS to TS
(28:08) - The build/compile step
(33:20) - Types vs. Interfaces
(37:19) - Declaration Merging pitfalls
(41:35) - TS Reset and TS 5.5 improvements
(48:25) - TypeScript enforcing a way of programming
(51:18) - any vs. unknown
(54:25) - Wrapping up
Links and Resources$10 off for Michael's Nuxt Tips Collection* with this link and the code DEJAVUE10% discount for the vue.js de Conf in Bonn, Germany* with code DEJAVUEMatt's Truck streamBadass.devNeverThrowSentry migrating to TSStripe migrating to TSTS ResetDan Vanderkam's PR to TSTS Flappy BirdTotal TypeScriptLinks marked with * are affiliate links. We get a small commission when you register for the service through our link. This helps us to keep the podcast running. We only include affiliate links for services mentioned in the episode or that we use ourselves.

Aug 22, 2024 • 26min
Signals
It was teased in the last episode already and here it - Michael and Alex talk about the current hype in the front end development community: Signals. But if you as a Vue developer don't feel hyped around it and maybe even didn't hear much around it, fear no more - that is normal and will be explained in the episode too.Join the two Vue experts covering the history of Signals, what's behind the term and how they work in Vue.js and other major frameworks.And of course, the TC39 proposal to add Signals to the language itself wasn't forgotten either.Enjoy the episode! Chapters(00:00) - Welcome to DejaVue
(01:06) - Signals and Reactivity
(04:41) - Functional Programming
(10:51) - Signals in Modern Frameworks
(11:48) - How Signals look like in other Frameworks
(14:20) - Signals in Vue
(15:20) - Signals vs. refs?
(17:51) - A Standard for Signals
(21:54) - Benefits of Signals in the language
(25:16) - Vue.JS DE Conf 2024
Links and Resources$10 off for Michael's Nuxt Tips Collection* with this link and the code DEJAVUE10% discount for the vue.js de Conf in Bonn, Germany* with code DEJAVUEDejaVue #E022 - Reactivity in VueHaskellOCamlElixirElmZodValibotSolid.jsBuilding solid-like Signals in Vue with shallowRefVue Docs on SignalsTC39 ProposalVueUseLinks marked with * are affiliate links. We get a small commission when you register for the service through our link. This helps us to keep the podcast running. We only include affiliate links for services mentioned in the episode or that we use ourselves.

Aug 15, 2024 • 42min
Reactivity in Vue
Join Alex and Michael on a talk about a key topic in Vue.js - the reactivity system. Before diving into how it works in Vue 3, reactivity in Vanilla JS is covered. Then, the differences between the major Vue versions are discussed, showing an astonishing evolution in terms of DX but also performance when it comes to reactivity.Of course, the ref vs reactive topic can’t be left out, and neither can signals and vapor mode.Sounds interesting? Then tune in!Enjoy the episode! Chapters(00:00) - Welcome to DejaVue
(01:38) - What is Reactivity in general?
(03:47) - Reactivity in JavaScript?
(07:45) - Reactivity in Vue 1
(09:08) - Changes to reactivity in Vue 2
(10:47) - Reactivity system and caveats in Vue 2
(15:10) - Vue 3 Reactivity with Proxies
(19:00) - No IE11 support
(20:22) - Ref and Reactive in Vue
(25:12) - shallowRef, triggerRef and more
(28:23) - Why not shallowRef by default?
(31:24) - Vue's reactivity system as a standalone package
(34:21) - Vapor Mode
(40:52) - Wrapping Up
Links and Resources$10 off for Michael's Nuxt Tips Collection* with this link and the code DEJAVUE (Release on Aug 5th)10% discount for the vue.js de Conf in Bonn, Germany* with code DEJAVUEDejaVue #E015 with Evan YouPetite Vue TalkDebugging Guide: Why Your Vue Component Isn't Updating (and how to fix it)Marc Backes - Building a Time Machine with ProxiesCanIUse Beowser Usage StatsMichael Thiessen on ref vs. reactiveAlex's shallowRef guideAlpine.jsReactivue - Vue CAPI in React 👀Arrow-jsVapor Mode RepoVapor Mode PlaygroundLinks marked with * are affiliate links. We get a small commission when you register for the service through our link. This helps us to keep the podcast running. We only include affiliate links for services mentioned in the episode or that we use ourselves.

Aug 8, 2024 • 1h 22min
Documentation and Migration: From Vue 2 to Vue 3 (with Natalia Tepluhina)
For the 20th episode we surprise you with a "in-person" podcast episode! Alex is joined by Principal Engineer and Vue Core Team Member Natalia Tepluhina to talk about two important topics - Documentation and the Migration from Vue 2 to Vue 3. Learn in this episode what Natalia does in the core team, how difficult writing docs is and how to improve your doc writing skills. Also, gain insights in how GitLab's migration from Vue 2 to Vue 3 is going and get invaluable tips if you also have to migrate a project over!Enjoy the episode!Chapters(00:00) - Welcome to DejaVue!
(01:32) - When did you start using Vue.js?
(02:42) - How could you introduce Vue at work?
(04:43) - Joining GitLab
(07:15) - Getting into public speaking
(10:05) - Memorable moments as a speaker
(16:22) - Moving to Amsterdam
(18:22) - Being part of the Vue.js Core Team
(20:27) - (Not) Documenting Vue Methods
(22:21) - $parent in Vue 2
(22:59) - AI as the new docs?
(25:00) - Regular Contributors to the Vue docs
(26:14) - Is writing docs is easy?
(31:45) - Documenting Vue 3 at release
(34:04) - Documentation as a garden
(37:00) - Separating Options and Composition API docs
(38:20) - Preferring the Options API for huge teams?
(41:49) - Inline Composables and other architectural patterns
(45:35) - Overusing Watchers
(46:57) - People - Share your thoughts and patterns!
(48:39) - Vue.js DE Conference
(49:14) - Migration from Vue 2 to Vue 3
(50:10) - How the component library blocks migration
(54:10) - Updating Unit tests during migration
(55:16) - No CAPI during migration
(57:13) - Migration of big old projects
(58:45) - Responsibility of library authors
(01:05:01) - Vue 3 Breaking changes
(01:06:31) - Will the migration ever end?
(01:07:48) - Other tips for migrating
(01:09:19) - Migrating without tests
(01:10:45) - Rewrite vs Migration?
(01:11:35) - Not migrating at all?
(01:13:54) - No CAPI during migration?
(01:15:58) - New questions with CAPI
(01:16:58) - Natalia back on stage at a conference?
(01:18:16) - What could the Vue team have done better?
(01:20:21) - Nuxt Tips Collection
(01:21:00) - Wrapping up
Links and Resources$10 off for Michael's Nuxt Tips Collection* with this link and the code DEJAVUE10% discount for the vue.js de Conf in Bonn, Germany* with code DEJAVUEGitLabDejaVue Episode with VanessaOptions API vs Composition APIOrganizing Composition API CodeBootstrap VueIlya KlymovBootstrap Vue NextLinks marked with * are affiliate links. We get a small commission when you register for the service through our link. This helps us to keep the podcast running. We only include affiliate links for services mentioned in the episode or that we use ourselves.