The Automotive Leaders Podcast

This episode is sponsored by Lockton, click here to learn more Watch the full video on YouTube - click hereIn this episode, Jan Griffiths is joined by Cheryl Thompson, the CEO of CADIA (Center for Automotive Diversity, Inclusion & Advancement), to discuss "Driving Diversity: Unlocking the Power of Diverse Workforces for the Future of the Transportation Industry," a Diversity, Equity & Inclusion (DE&I) industry study that CADIA conducted in 2023.Cheryl highlights progress and areas that need improvement, citing statistics on women's representation in the transportation industry and the disparities in racial and ethnic representation, especially at senior executive levels.They explore the misconception of hiring "the best person for the job" as an excuse for the lack of diversity and the importance of providing equal opportunities for all candidates. Cheryl highlights the need for transparency in promoting diversity while discussing the challenges of collecting demographic data. Additionally, she underscores the importance of attracting early talent by dispelling outdated industry perceptions.Jan and Cheryl also discuss the importance of connecting with the workforce to create a sense of belonging and inclusivity. They highlight the importance of retention strategies, including stay interviews, especially in a multi-generational workforce. They discuss innovative approaches like reverse mentorship and shadow boards to bridge the generational gap and leverage diverse perspectives for organizational growth and success.Lastly, they talk about the key findings and best practices of CADIA’s 2023 Industry Study. Cheryl emphasizes the significance of collecting data, incorporating DEI into core business goals, and mentoring and sponsorship initiatives for career advancement.Jan stresses the significance of investing time and effort in promoting diversity and inclusion, as emphasized in the study. She encourages listeners to explore the study for the lessons leaders can learn.Themes discussed in this episode:The significance of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DE&I) in the automotive industry The need for cultural transformation in the auto industryThe importance of cultural, racial, and generational diversityChallenges in achieving representation for women and minorities, particularly in leadership rolesImportance of providing equal opportunities for all candidatesThe urgency of dispelling industry stereotypes to attract diverse talentChallenges in collecting accurate demographic dataDebunking the notion of hiring based solely on meritIntegrating DEI into core business goals and practicesFeatured: Cheryl Thompson What she does: In her role as the founder and CEO of the Center for Automotive Diversity, Inclusion & Advancement (CADIA), Cheryl Thompson champions diversity, equity, and inclusion within the automotive industry. With over 30 years of experience in various leadership roles at Ford Motor Company and American Axle, Cheryl brings expertise in manufacturing, operations, and global leadership to her work. On leadership: “DE&I is all about good leadership, taking care of our people, making sure they have what they need to contribute to their highest potential and to really thrive at work.”Mentioned in this episode:DE&I Transformation: Insights from a CEO's Remarkable RiseDEI Industry Study in 2023: Driving DiversityCADIA Accelerator DEI Certification Program for ​Automotive Industry ProfessionalsRev Up 2030 - DEI Summit 20242023 High-Tech Talent Initiative Perception StudyEpisode Highlights:[00:01:33] The Study:  Jan sets the stage for a discussion on driving change in the automotive industry with Cheryl, focusing on the progress and challenges highlighted in her recent study "Driving Diversity."[00:04:47] "The Best Person for the Job": Jan challenges excuses for lack of diversity. Cheryl discusses the study's motivation and the data collection challenges; they highlight transparency and leadership alignment with DE&I efforts.[00:09:51] Plant & Manufacturing: Cheryl discusses the study's findings on manufacturing representation and the need for talent development pathways, emphasizing the importance of dispelling industry stereotypes to attract diverse early talent.[00:12:56] Sense of Connection: A discussion on the importance of storytelling to foster community and inclusivity; Cheryl reflects on the sense of connection and camaraderie experienced in manufacturing roles.[00:15:34] Promotion & Attrition: Cheryl discusses promotion and attrition rates. Jan promotes the value of stay interviews in understanding retention factors despite industry hesitation.[00:18:25] New Generation: Cheryl notes the rise of millennial and Gen Z leaders, highlighting the need for companies to understand their values for better retention. Jan suggests embracing generational diversity through initiatives like reverse mentorship and shadow boards.[00:23:44] Best Practices: Cheryl identifies key best practices, including comprehensive data collection, prioritizing DEI as a business objective, analyzing talent attraction, and emphasizing deliberate focus and time investment on DE&I. Top Quotes:[00:06:44] Cheryl: “You should always pick the best person for the job. However, everyone needs to have a chance to compete. We need to open up that field of play so that we're giving women and ethnic and racial minorities, even people with disability, veteran status, all of that beautiful diversity. We need to be able to make sure everyone's getting their fair shot at the game.”[00:20:10] Cheryl: “Bringing in people from different generations and discussing differences, strengths, and opportunities. And I think that's really cool. I love learning from millennials and Gen Zs, and can't wait to learn from the Alpha generation. It keeps me young, but also it helps me stay relevant. And if I were a leader inside of a plant right now, I would definitely want to do that to stay relevant and to evolve and learn as an individual.”[00:22:12] Cheryl: “I think that sometimes there's too much ego, and it gets in the way. Sometimes, mentors don't realize that there is an opportunity for them to learn. It's not all about them. It is about the other person and what can be learned from that.”

This episode is sponsored by Lockton, click here to learn more Watch the full video on Youtube - click hereJan Griffiths is thrilled to share the news about her upcoming book, "AutoCulture 2.0," which is set to be published on March 7th, 2024. In this episode, Jan talks about the book's inspiration and commitment to transforming the leadership model and culture in the auto industry.Jan dives into the book's contents, which include her personal story, industry experiences, and vision for authentic leadership. The book also features podcast interviews with visionary leaders in the auto industry, each providing a unique perspective on leadership and drawing from diverse backgrounds and experiences within the automotive sector.Jan reveals three crucial leadership lessons she learned during the book's writing process. These include playing to one's strengths, prioritizing brevity and clarity, and embracing progress over perfection. With the release of "AutoCulture 2.0" just around the corner, Jan encourages listeners to get the book and embrace authentic leadership.Themes discussed in this episode:Transforming leadership and culture in the auto industryThe essence of authentic leadership and its significance in driving positive change Learning from visionary leaders in the automotive sectorGetting vital leadership lessons from a personal journeyRecognizing and embracing your strengthsBrevity and clarityEmbracing progress over perfectionYour HostJan Griffiths is the architect of cultural change in the automotive industry. As the President & Founder of Gravitas Detroit, Jan brings a wealth of expertise and a passion for transforming company cultures. Additionally, she is the host of The Automotive Leaders Podcast, where she shares insightful conversations with industry visionaries, and is the author of AutoCulture 2.0. With her extensive experience and commitment to fostering positive change, Jan Griffiths is at the forefront of revolutionizing the automotive landscape.Email: Jan@gravitasdetroit.comMentioned in this episode:Meet Stephen M. R. Covey, The New York Times and #1 Wall Street Journal bestselling author of The Speed of Trust and Trust & Inspire Meet Dr. Andy Palmer, former COO of Nissan and CEO of Aston MartinMeet Stefan Krause, A driving force in the world of EVsMeet Sandy Stojkovski, CEO of Vitesco Technologies, North AmericaMeet Warren Harris, CEO of Tata TechnologiesMeet the Man Behind the EV Wireless Charging Revolution: HEVO Founder & CEO Jeremy McCoolMeet Doug Conant, former CEO of Campbell Soup CompanyWho Not How: The Formula to Achieve Bigger Goals Through Accelerating TeamworkEpisode Highlights:[02:06] Book Journey: Hear Jan's journey, why she decided to write the book, and what the book is all about.[06:14] Leaders on Focus: Get to know the industry leaders individually as Jan talks about each featured leader, giving you a glimpse into their take on automotive leadership.[10:10] Jan's Key Lessons: Join Jan in discussing three vital leadership takeaways from her writing journey, emphasizing the importance of strengths, clarity, and progress.

This episode is sponsored by Lockton, click here to learn moreWatch the full video on YouTube - click hereMeet Larry Burns, a leading voice in the world of mobility. From serving as Corporate VP of R&D for General Motors to consulting for tech companies like Waymo, Larry bridges the gap between legacy OEM and tech-startup worlds. During this episode of the Automotive Leaders podcast, Larry addresses critical questions about the EV startup DNA, what enables its success, and the challenges traditional automotive culture poses. He revealed why traditional OEMs struggled with EV innovation and discussed how leadership played into the success of tech companies like BYD and Tesla in the EV market. He highlights the need for empowerment and a culture that embraces failure as a learning opportunity.Discussing the kind of leadership the auto industry needs, Larry advocates for the "power of and," suggesting that effective leadership encompasses multiple traits rather than a single characteristic, emphasizing empathy, teamwork, and setting the proper examples in leadership behavior.Furthermore, Larry highlights the evolving nature of leadership in today's world, where personal and professional lives are intertwined. He stresses maintaining personal values while balancing work and family life.As the podcast wrapped up, Larry said that moving from ICE to BEV marks only the beginning. He stressed how technology is reshaping travel habits and urged leaders to adapt. Larry emphasized how crucial it is for companies to grasp these changes in mobility and encouraged them to grab onto the new tech opportunities coming their way.Themes discussed in this episode:The importance of authentic leadership traits in fostering innovative learning environments.Challenges in maintaining a healthy work-life balance, especially in demanding industries.The transition from Internal Combustion Engine (ICE) vehicles to Battery Electric Vehicles (BEVs)The success of EV startups and their unique approach to technology.The impact of traditional automotive culture on hindering innovation.The transformative potential of communication and information technology in shaping the future of mobility.Difference between traditional OEM and EV startupsFeatured: Larry Burns What he does: Larry is a prominent advisor in mobility, logistics, manufacturing, energy, and innovation. With a distinguished background as General Motors’ Corporate Vice President of Research & Development and Planning, Larry now consults for various organizations, including Kitson & Partners, Niron Magnetics, and Securing America’s Future Energy (SAFE). His expertise lies in autonomous electric vehicles and their transformative impact on transportation services, a topic he explores in his book “Autonomy: The Quest to Build the Driverless Car―And How It Will Reshape Our World.”On leadership: “There’s not one magic pill a person can take to be a great leader. You must be very sensitive to the people you’re leading. If you don’t set the right examples in your behavior, whether it’s integrity or treating people with dignity and respect, if you overreact to someone who had a failure, that’ll spread throughout the organization instantly.”Mentioned in this episode:Autonomy: The Quest to Build the Driverless Car―And How It Will Reshape Our WorldReinventing the Automobile: Personal Urban Mobility for the 21st CenturyEpisode with Alisyn Malek: How Alisyn Malek is shaping the future of mobility through collaboration, innovation, and leadershipTesla Model S and BYD SeagullAdvanced Driver Assistance Systems (ADAS)Google X and Project WaymoThe GM AUTOnomyThe Opposable Mind: How Successful Leaders Win Through Integrative Thinking by Roger MartinThey Made America: From the Steam Engine to the Search Engine: Two Centuries of Innovators by Harold EvansEpisode Highlights:[00:03:07] EV Challenges: Jan poses the common question to Larry: Why do traditional automakers struggle with EV innovation? [00:06:35] Tesla and BYD’s DNA: Larry discusses Tesla and BYD's success in the electric vehicle market, crediting visionary leadership and iterative learning cycles. He stresses the importance of adaptable strategies and market-driven value propositions over rigid forecasts.[00:14:25] Fostering Innovation: Larry and Jan discuss the necessity for the automotive industry to break free from past constraints and embrace innovation without fear of failure. Larry stresses leadership commitment to innovation and empowerment for fostering innovation.[00:24:59] Leadership Traits: Larry discusses integrative thinking and the importance of empathy, teamwork, and setting the proper examples in behavior for effective leadership.[00:29:26] Work-Life Balance: Larry shares personal experiences and advice on maintaining a work-life balance and prioritizing family time and integrity amidst career demands.[00:36:21] Larry on Reimagining Mobility: Larry advises leaders to anticipate the impact of technology on their businesses, consider how technology is altering the reasons for travel, and identify the opportunities for value creation in this evolving landscape.Top Quotes:[00:12:37] Larry: “I think electrically driven vehicles are inevitable because Einstein taught us that the best design is the simplest one that works.  And these are very simple products once you get the supply chain and everything right. So, if that's an inevitability, you got to get in front of it, but you don't do that by betting the farm. You've got to do that by learning.[00:24:28] Larry: “Everybody around the world has the same motivations that Americans have. They want to improve their lives for their kids, their families, and future generations. And they want to have a chance to realize their full potential as an individual. That's not unique to the United States. So, we've got to look at these challenges globally, and what's going on right now outside the US with these technologies is something that we really have to pay attention to.”[00:25:58] Larry: “Really great CEOs have an integrative mind.  They connect the dots. They're not willing to accept the least bad of a set of bad options. They keep working for a better solution.” [00:33:05] Larry: “The world's going to throw you curveballs. You have to be resilient. You have to bounce back from those. And you got to find time to have fun. You have to communicate with your family. But if you're in a big job in a big industry, you've got to make that a way of life and do that jointly with the people who are near and dear to you and understand that.”[00:38:26] Larry: “I think the industry transformation will be even more profound than anyone could imagine, from simply switching from combustion to electric and human driving to autonomous driving. I think the big, most strategically important question for communications, information, transportation, and entertainment companies is: how will this come together and shape the way people live in the future?”

This episode is sponsored by Lockton, click here to learn more Watch the full video on YouTube - click hereIn this podcast episode, Jan Griffiths tackles a crucial question: Are Chinese OEMs ready to take over the global automotive stage, possibly replacing legacy automakers? In the quest for answers, Jan sits down with Tu Le, Founder of Sino Auto Insights. He brings his experience as a seasoned tech and auto professional with a rich background spanning Ford, General Motors, and Apple.The conversation started with the current state of the automotive market in China — China's electric vehicle boom and the rise of Chinese automakers globally, with BYD surpassing a legacy OEM in sales. The talk then extends to the worldwide impact of China's EV exports and BYD's strategies for the US and Europe, with Tu identifying key factors contributing to the success of Chinese OEMs— visionary leadership, vertical integration, and a focus on innovation and scale. He also revealed the challenges for legacy automakers facing the evolving auto scene, emphasizing the necessity of cultural change for digital transformation.Talking about traits leaders need in major OEMs, Tu advocates for decisiveness, a willingness to hire more competent individuals, and having a global perspective. He urges leaders to be visionaries who consider the evolving needs of consumers worldwide. The conversation concludes with Tu advising leaders to right-size their businesses, reduce dependency on legacy OEMs, and invest heavily in talent and future opportunities, especially in software-driven aspects. The advice also extends to exploring global markets, understanding regional driving trends, and considering the growing EV revolution.Themes discussed in this episode:Auto industry dynamics and global market perspectivesChinese dominance in the worldwide marketCultural transformation in the auto industryAutomotive transformation, OEM challenges, and disruptionsICE (Internal combustion engine) to BEV (Battery electric vehicle) The role of software in the automotive futureDiversification for Tier One SuppliersThe importance of customer experience and being customer-focusedFeatured: Tu Le What he does: Tu Le, Founder and Managing Director of Sino Auto Insights, is a driven entrepreneur dedicated to transforming transportation. He's led the firm to impressive growth, specializing in mobility and transportation consultancy. Tu is a recognized expert, often featured in major media, and co-organizer of the MOBILIT/E Conference, a key event in the global mobility space. His goal is to simplify and enhance how people and goods move, emphasizing innovation and accessibility. On leadership: “Leadership traits [OEMs for the future] I think that they are decisive. They also hire people on their teams that are smarter than they are. So, they don't have that typical ego of a CEO. I think it's important to be very confident and decisive because the automotive sector is not going to be a high-tech space.  It'll become this individually distinct new sector that has elements of manufacturing and elements of customer engagement service. You have to have a really diverse understanding of how the world works.”Mentioned in this episode:NEV (New Energy Vehicle)Wang Chuanfu, Founder and CEO of BYD Episode with Alisyn Malek: How Alisyn Malek is shaping the future of mobility through collaboration, innovation, and leadershipDriverless DueleVTOL or Electric Vertical Take-off and Landing, and Autonomous Robo-taxisEpisode with Wendy Bauer: When Amazon Meets Automotive Leadership: Insights from Wendy BauerCARIAD – Automotive Software for VolkswagenThe Automotive Leaders Podcast’s 100th podcast episode with John McElroy & Jason SteinMagna Steyr – Vehicle Contract ManufacturerTu Le shares his outlook on China’s competitive electric vehicle industry in an interview on CNBCChina EVs and more podcastEpisode Highlights:[00:02:58] The Big Question: Jan sets the stage by raising the crucial question of whether Chinese OEMs will dominate the automotive landscape, sparking a conversation about the future of legacy automakers and what sets BYD apart regarding leadership and culture.[00:09:47] Innovating Faster than Giants: Jan questions the astounding pace of BYD's success compared to legacy automakers like GM, revealing the factors behind BYD's global dominance.[00:14:53] Chinese Auto Export Strategy: Jan and Tu delve into China's plans to lead the global auto market, discussing timing, long-term visions, and the shake-up in global manufacturing involving Tesla, MG, Volkswagen, Nissan, and Ford.[00:31:46] Speeding Up Transformation: The conversation stresses the auto industry's need to break free from traditional mindsets, speed up decision-making, and embrace the necessary cultural and operational changes.[00:35:17] Tier One Leaders' Survival Guide: Tu shifts attention from OEMs to Tier Ones, providing crucial advice for leaders in the EV revolution, emphasizing the importance for Tier Ones to move away from relying solely on traditional OEMs, urging them to diversify products, explore new startups, and explore a broader automotive mobility landscape.Top Quotes:[00:07:42] Tu: “If you're cutting your teeth on supplying Apple, the automotive sector, I'm sorry. It is very cutthroat, but if you have scars from the high-tech sector, you will do okay in the automotive space.”[00:08:49] Tu: “I visited BYD in April of last year, right after the Shanghai Auto Show, drove six, seven cars, and they could compete today with the best of what German legacy has, Italian legacy has, United States and Japan legacy and Korea legacy.”[00:11:12] Tu: “The challenge for legacy auto, and you slot in GM, slot in Ford, is that we live in a digital world. It's transitioning over from analog to digital. And up until this point, even if you look at the OTM or the F-150 Lightning, the legacies are bringing analog toys to a digital party.”[00:14:37] Tu: “As a leader, you got to get everybody rowing in the same direction, and I think those are some of the challenges.  And one of the reasons I started the consultancy was because the tech guys were talking their language, and the car guys were talking their language, and there was no translator.”[00:34:28] Tu: “China's faster than Silicon Valley. Very simply, we need to stop and get out of our heads that China is this copycat country once and for all. If you don't believe me, believe Elon. He said nine of the top 10 automakers will probably be Chinese in the future.”[00:34:58] Tu: “So, the reality is, things will change because they have to. If GM and Ford want to remain competitive, that's the reality.”[00:40:00] Tu: “What Tier One leaders need is to assess how small they have to get while also investing heavily in the talent and the opportunities they see in the future. It's going to be driven by software.”

Sign up for The Automotive Leaders Letter Watch the full video on YouTube - click hereEmbark on an automotive innovation journey with Ashok Sivanand, Founder and CEO of Integral, as we explore how he actively shapes the future of product design, technology, and leadership in the automotive industry.In this episode, Ashok shares his insights on:👉What's happening in the world of automotive technology and product design👉Bridging the gap between Lean manufacturing principles and the field of software and technology👉The challenges faced by OEMs in adopting cross-functional design processes and understanding how silos impact innovation👉The shortcomings of traditional customer surveys👉Power of in-depth interviews and qualitative data for effective problem-solving👉Essential leadership qualities for fostering innovation in automotive companies👉Why leaders should foster an environment that encourages experimentation and learning👉The transition to a more innovative mindset within traditional organizationsJoin us to explore the challenges, rewards, and transformative approaches shaping the future of the automotive industry. Whether you’re an industry professional or simply love innovation, this episode is a must-listen. Themes discussed in this episode:Understanding Customer Pain PointsChallenges in Traditional ApproachesInnovating Automotive CultureDesigning Products in the IndustryMaking Bets for InnovationTransitioning to an Innovative MindsetIntegral Way of Problem-SolvingEssential qualities for fostering innovation in companiesManaging Transitions in CompaniesFeatured: Ashok SivanandWhat he does: Ashok is the driving force behind Integral, a digital transformation firm. As the CEO, Ashok is on a mission to make mobility a universal right. His passion lies in collaborating to build delightful products and high-performing teams, fostering a tech community that's not just inclusive but diverse. With leadership roles at Pivotal Labs and a track record in product development, he's now leading Integral to reshape how businesses integrate technology into their core.On leadership: “I think that a combination of vulnerability and resilience is something that is hard to find. It's hard to find within oneself, let alone within an organization”Mentioned in this episode:IoT Company, ShoplogixToyota Production System & The Theory of ConstraintsFord LabsSteve Blank’s Investment Readiness ChecklistThe Four Steps to the Epiphany: Successful Strategies for Products that Win The Lean Startup: How Today's Entrepreneurs Use Continuous Innovation to Create Radically Successful BusinessesFord ProEpisode Highlights:[00:03:38] Ashok’s journey in automotive: Explore Ashok’s impactful career journey and how it led him to become a transformative force in the automotive industry.    [00:08:54] The genesis for Integral: The factors that inspired Ashok to start his own business and sparked his commitment to reshaping traditional automotive practices.       [00:12:13] Transforming automotive product design: The changes brewing in automotive product design and understanding Ashok’s take on how the industry is adjusting to meet the ever-changing market demands.      [00:15:48] Breaking silos, building innovation: The challenges OEMs face when trying to ditch the silo mentality to focus on cross-collaboration and fostering innovation.[00:18:20] Ashok’s advice for leaders: Ashok’s advice for innovation leaders: Understand your role, recognize your strengths, transition from mere order-taking to value creation, and adopt a holistic approach.[00:24:38] The right way: The Integral way of truly understanding customer pain and prioritizing customer value through in-depth interviews, qualitative data, and a missionary approach to problem-solving.[00:32:51] Leadership guide for innovation: Ashok’s take on the 21 traits of authentic leadership and the qualities he thinks are essential for fostering innovation.[00:40:53] Lessons from Ford Labs: Learn from Ashok’s experiences at Ford Labs, understanding how companies can effectively manage transitions and adopt innovative practices.[00:49:08] Personal side of Ashok: In a more personal segment, Ashok shares his favorite Detroit spots and music preferences, offering a glimpse into the life of a leader shaping the auto industry’s future.Top Quotes:[00:13:46] Ashok: “I think anytime you use the word product, you want to be very clear as to who's it for and what's it for.”[00:14:19] Ashok: “When you get all the cross-functional components together, or the constituents together, they're able to make decisions relatively more autonomously and be given the authority to go solve that problem. You're going way faster. And you're able to combine hardware and software very quickly to make these decisions.”[00:15:31] Ashok: “Digital transformation is not just the use of technology, but it's thinking in a different way and being enabled by technology and then using it to solve problems either for your customer or your internal operations and sometimes even just taking the risk out of the decisions that you make.”[00:21:15] Ashok: “You're thinking about being more technology-enabled or doing well at serving software. I think there are a few things to consider. Number one is adding business value where you are not just taking the orders that come from the sales team and make sure that it gets done on time and on budget.”[00:32:10] Ashok: “There's nothing that can convert someone from mercenaries to missionaries, where my job isn't just coming in and getting a paycheck. It's something that I feel purpose around. There's nothing that's going to make that change in your team than helping them understand how bad something is today and how the work they're doing today is going to lead to that being much better for that person.”[00:47:06] Ashok: “I've seen a lot more efficacy around proving it out in a small area, going real deep with it, and then spreading that context and confidence to the broader enterprise versus trying to do a little bit of it but spreading it across.”

In this podcast, Jan Griffiths discusses the power of a restart in the new year and the philosophy of reflecting on achievements rather than unmet goals. She shares milestones from 2023, including her time at Gravitas Detroit and thought-provoking discussions with automotive industry leaders. Jan also reveals exciting plans for 2024, such as the release of her book 'Roadmap to rEVolution' and a commitment to 'swift execution'. Overall, she urges listeners to embrace authentic leadership and cultural transformation.

Sign up for The Automotive Leaders Letter Watch the full video on YouTube - click hereIn this podcast episode, Alisyn Malek, a seasoned leader in the automotive and mobility industry, shares her extraordinary journey from working on an OEM electric vehicle project to pioneering startups that influence the future of mobility. Alisyn addresses the challenges confronting traditional automotive manufacturers in adapting to rapid innovation, highlighting the necessity for a mindset shift and a focus on solving tangible customer problems through data-driven decision-making. As she discusses her role at May Mobility and establishing SkillFusion, Alisyn emphasizes the crucial intersection where policy, infrastructure, automation, leadership, and technology converge. The podcast explores her experience developing a software platform to address the pressing issues with EV charging infrastructure, showcasing how her leadership and expertise bridge the gap between established OEMs and the burgeoning startup landscape. Alisyn's commitment to shaping the future of mobility through collaboration, innovation, and an unwavering growth mindset shines through, making this episode a must-listen for those intrigued by the transformative dynamics of the automotive industry.Themes discussed in this episode:Automotive transformation and OEM challengesChallenges and opportunities in the automotive industry's transition to automationCross-functional design approach in the automotive industryData-driven decision-makingStartup ecosystem and innovationThe human element in EV charging infrastructureLeadership traits for innovationFeatured: Alisyn MalekWhat she does: Alisyn is a dynamic leader in the mobility and automotive sectors, having played key roles at General Motors, driving EV product development and corporate strategy. As the co-founder and COO of May Mobility, she pioneered autonomous vehicle transportation solutions. Currently, she's driving innovation as the force behind SkillFusion, a platform focused on enhancing EV charging infrastructure through workforce development.On leadership: “The open mindset helps because you've created a dialogue back and forth. But you also have to demonstrate back that you trust them. That only goes so far, so if they keep messing up, you have to show people there are consequences. But it has to be a two-way street because that, again, really creates the strength of the team that's going to allow you to achieve things you otherwise never would have thought imaginable.”Mentioned in this episode:Ed Olson, CEO and Co-Founder of May MobilitySAFE, Coalition for Reimagined MobilityAlisyn Malek’s book, Intersection: Reimagining Mobility Across Traditional BoundariesNewlabEpisode Highlights:[00:03:25] Alisyn's professional journey: Embark on Alisyn's dynamic career, spanning GM's automation endeavors to co-founding May Mobility and venturing into the realm of startups.[00:11:53] A blueprint for innovation: Exploring the multifaceted dimensions of mobility and transportation, Alisyn discusses her book's mission to capture diverse perspectives on the future of mobility.[00:20:01] Get comfortable with being uncomfortable: Dive into Alisyn's perspective on embracing discomfort and cultivating a growth mindset for innovation within the automotive realm.[00:33:26] Nurturing mobility ecosystem: A dynamic startup ecosystem that Alisyn played a pivotal role in launching in Detroit. Newlab focuses on empowering founders to scale their businesses, particularly in hard tech areas such as mobility, energy, and materials.[00:36:31] Explore SkillFusion: Alisyn's recent venture addressing the shortage of skilled technicians in maintaining EV charging infrastructure, ensuring a seamless experience for electric vehicle users.[00:40:51] Alisyn on authentic leadership: Learn about the key traits that fuel Alisyn’s dynamic approach to navigating the fast-paced world of innovation and mobility.[00:43:59] Personal side of Alisyn: Peek into Alisyn Malek's personal side, from favorite spots in Detroit to literary preferences, offering a glimpse into the life of a leader shaping the future of mobility.Top quotes:[00:07:02] Alisyn: “Why would we do the same thing when we knew the same thing was actually having worse outcomes for people getting where they needed to go?”[00:11:17] Alisyn: “Our entire economy is underpinned by mobility. Our health and life outcomes are underpinned by our access to mobility.”[00:19:38] Alisyn: “We need to be able to ask questions, and we need to know that sometimes, at the very start, we won't have all the answers, but we'll get them along the way. And that requires a culture that needs that open mindset.”[00:22:44] Alisyn: “To write something off because it didn't work once is terrible product planning because other people are working to evolve it… Instead of just telling me it doesn't work. Why don't you tell me why it didn't work then? What part of it failed?”[00:27:15] Alisyn: “The number of decisions that are made within automotive, because an executive has a gut feel or a passion, not because there was data taken or there was an ill-structured customer study done early on, I think fundamentally is what is wrong.”[00:27:57] Alisyn: “I think the biggest problem that the OEMs are going to be tackling is how do you actually make sure you're solving the right problem. Because each problem is going to take resources, it's going to take capital, it's going to take people, it's going to take expertise.”[00:30:52] Alisyn: “Stop trying to pretend to be a tech company and actually be a tech company. The whole idea of a tech company from a startup perspective is that you solve a problem that people have and are willing to pay.”[00:42:03] Alisyn: “Being able to create that learning culture, that open mindset, is going to help your team gel and be able to rally together to be able to do more faster.”

Sign up for The Automotive Leaders Letter Watch the full video on YouTube - click hereWelcome to the first episode of Season 5 of the Automotive Leaders Podcast. In this season opener, Jan Griffiths interviews Michael Colleran, Senior Vice President and Corporate Officer at Nissan North America. Michael started his professional journey as a US Marine Corps Captain and later worked at General Motors and Saab before joining Nissan. This diverse experience gives him a unique perspective on the shifts in the auto industry.The conversation starts with a study from Great Place to Work, revealing that 77 percent of Nissan’s employees deem it a great place to work. Mike shares what factors contribute to this recognition, exploring the essential elements that shape Nissan’s exceptional workplace culture.Michael highlights the changing dynamics of customer interactions, emphasizing the shift from transactional to experiential relationships. Essential leadership qualities, accountability, and the significance of setting examples within leadership teams are discussed, and challenging norms by acknowledging past success behaviors may not ensure future achievements. These perspectives not only give a glimpse into how leadership operates at Nissan but also offer valuable lessons for adapting to the ever-changing world of the automotive industry.Themes discussed in this episode:Nissan's journey and transformation.The necessity for behavioral and cultural changes to drive success.Adapting to changing customer expectations from transactional to experiential.Evolving dynamics of leadership in the automotive industry.Balancing innovation with a strong sense of accountability in leadership.The influential role of leadership teams in setting positive examples.Featured: Michael ColleranWhat he does: Michael is Corporate Vice President at Nissan Motor Co., Ltd., and Senior Vice President for all sales and marketing activities for the Nissan and INFINITI brands in the US. A former Captain in the United States Marine Corps, Michael brings a dynamic blend of strategic vision and operational excellence to the automotive industry.On leadership: “When leaders replicate good behaviors, people will follow. They want to follow; they want that example out there... Leaders can get out there, set an example, and use their experience.”Mentioned in this episode:Podcast interview with Navy SEALs: Episode with Clint Bruce - Former Navy Special Warfare OfficerEpisode with Nick Norris - Former Navy SEALBook Extreme Ownership by Jocko WillinkPodcast episode with Stefan KrausePodcast episode with Doug Conant, former CEO of Campbell Soup CompanyEpisode Highlights:[00:02:53] Michael's corporate odyssey: Follow Michael’s journey as he transitions from a US Marine Corps Captain through roles at GM and Saab to his impactful position at Nissan, revealing the changes in leadership dynamics along the way.[00:08:36] Cultural transformation at Nissan: Exploring the essential cultural shifts and behavioral changes that positioned the company as a great workplace amidst the rapid transformations in the automotive industry.[00:20:01] Innovation through accountability: Jan and Michael tackle the fear of failure that is prevalent in leadership. Michael advises leaders to encourage risk-taking, emphasizing the importance of learning from failures and swiftly moving forward. They also discussed accountability dynamics, steering away from blame and fostering a culture that encourages positive accountability.[00:33:29] Authentic leadership traits: Discussing the 21 Traits of Authentic Leadership, Michael emphasizes the essence of being a leader with Gravitas, summarizing the comprehensive qualities required for authentic leadership.[00:35:54] Executive beyond the boardroom: Explore the personal side of an auto industry executive as Michael Colleran shares insights into his life outside the corporate world, uncovering exciting details such as his music preferences and hobbies.[00:40:37] Michael’s advice: In an industry where stability once prevailed, Michael urges leaders to stay attentive to the shifting ground, continuously questioning and adapting while acknowledging the influx of new competitors.Top Quotes:[00:04:17] Michael: “Where to place your trust, how to earn trust, and how to make sure that your people and the teams around you trust each other are crucial… That's true in our business today. Employees want that level of trust and transparency. It was probably one of the key things I learned from my days in the Marine Corps.”[00:09:55] Michael: “Most would say the big challenges in the industry are ICE to EV, autonomous drive, or connected cars. At Nissan, we reject that. Big change is coming, no question. But the biggest change is the battle for the customer. At the ultimate decision point, the customer has to make a decision for your brand.”[00:11:16] Michael: “We're going to make the best ecosystem possible, one that people just don't want to leave. They truly love the brand. Right now, we're reinventing our team into a very customer-focused team, moving the business from transactional to experiential.”[00:14:30] Michael: I truly believe that really great leadership is forged in the furnace of experience.[00:14:54] Michael: “I'm a big believer in looking for curiosity in people; curiosity to me means you're still growing, and I can't coach and mentor someone who stopped learning.”[00:32:13] Michael: “Leaders, focus will set you free, and it also allows you to be true to your core values. When you're focused, and you know what you're trying to accomplish, and you never lose sight of that goal.”[00:34:11] Michael: “If a leader sees the business as their own, they're going to make better decisions for the company, for their people, for their partners, and for their customers.”[00:41:15] Michael: “I would say, keep your head on a swivel. You need always just to be looking around and asking yourself, why?”

Sign up for The Automotive Leaders Letter Watch the full video on YouTube - click hereIn this solo episode, Jan Griffiths reflects on the recent developments in the automotive industry and takes a moment to revisit a series of episodes dedicated to strike-related content, featuring key providers and experts offering insights on risk management, operational perspectives, collaborative agreements, and the legal aspects of the automotive landscape.Transitioning to her experience at the MEMA conference, Jan shares her personal growth in aligning with her values and embodying authentic leadership. The highlight of the conference was an interaction with Stephen Covey. Jan also recaps her participation in the Reuters conference, where she introduced Marques McCammon, President of Karma Automotive. Impressed by Karma's mission-driven approach and authentic leadership, Jan expresses enthusiasm for the company's future in the luxury EV market.As season four concludes, Jan sheds light on the evolution of Gravitas Detroit, providing details about the company's development and direction. Jan announces the upcoming website revision, the release of her book, and the podcast's sponsorship opportunities in 2024. Jan looks forward to returning for season five in December, continuing to promote authentic leadership in the automotive industry.Themes discussed in this episode:End of the UAW strikeInsights from key providers and expertsPersonal experiences and growthDiversity, Equity, and InclusionUpdates on the business End of seasonPlans and preparation for the futureFeatured: Jan GriffithsWhat she does: Jan is the founder and CEO of Gravitas Detroit, an organization dedicated to cultivating authentic leadership in the automotive industry by providing courses, workshops, speaking events, and more. She is also the host of The Automotive Leaders Podcast.Mentioned in this episode:Podcast episode with Tor Hough and Sig Huber of ELM AnalyticsPodcast episode with Thomas Kowal, President of Seraph North AmericaPodcast episode with Kate Vitasek, Expert in collaborative negotiationsPodcast episode with Daniel Rustmann, Co-Chair of the Global Automotive Practice at Butzel LongSolo episode, “My Love Hate Relationship with Shawn Fain.”MEMA ConferencePodcast episode with Stephen Covey, Global authority on trust, leadership, and culture. Author of “Trust and Inspire: How Truly Great Leaders Unleash Greatness in Others.”Marques McCammon, President of Karma AutomotiveMichelle Christensen, Vice President, Global Design at Karma AutomotiveKarma Automotive Launch Event last November 11ALP’s 100th episode with John McElroy and Jason SteinPodcast that Jan co-host and produce, Auto Supply Chain Prophets ASCP podcast episode with Anthony Emery, Supply Chain and Logistics Director for PHINIAASCP podcast episode with Thomas Kull, Professor of Supply Chain Management at Arizona State UniversityEpisode Highlights:[00:01:18] Reflection on season four and previous episodes: Jan Griffiths reflects on the themes and highlights of Season Four, offering insights into the past episodes and the overarching narrative.[00:03:28] Experience at the MEMA Conference: Sharing her experience at the MEMA Conference, Jan provides a personal perspective on the growth and evolution of her involvement in the automotive industry.[00:07:30] Introduction to Karma Automotive: Jan introduces Karma Automotive, highlighting the mission-driven approach and the impressive leadership of Marques McCammon.[00:10:08] Closing season four and updates on future plans: As Season Four concludes, Jan shares updates on future plans, including a book release, website revisions, and the launch of Season Five, teasing exciting developments.[00:20:18] Sponsorship: Discussing sponsorship, Jan opens the door for potential partners aligned with the mission of preparing the automotive industry for the future through authentic leadership.

Watch the full video on YouTube - click hereIn this episode of the Automotive Leaders Podcast, host Jan Griffiths engages in a conversation with Daniel Rustmann, an industry expert with over 30 years of legal experience in supplier-related matters. They explore the unique challenges the automotive supply chain faces during and post-UAW strike.Daniel, a co-chair of the global automotive practice at Butzel Long, provides valuable insights into the legal and contractual aspects influencing the ability to restart operations swiftly. He emphasizes that while contractual obligations often favor OEMs, a cooperative approach may be more effective in resolving disputes. The discussion also highlights the intricate interconnectivity within the automotive supply chain, emphasizing the importance of aligning terms and conditions to ensure a seamless flow of expectations.The significance of proactive risk assessment and open communication within the supply chain is evident throughout the conversation. Maintaining healthy supplier relationships, keeping in touch with employees, and fostering positivity are key takeaways. This episode underscores that, while legal considerations are crucial, a collaborative approach, coupled with positive leadership, holds the key to overcoming challenges and transforming the automotive industry in the face of adversity.Themes discussed in this episode:UAW Strike and supply chain challengesSwift restart of operationsContractual and legal considerationsCommunication and collaborationRisk assessment and preparednessLeadership and positivityOpportunities for transformationFeatured Guest: Daniel RustmannWhat he does: Daniel Rustmann is the Co-Chair of the Global Automotive Practice at Butzel Long; he is highly respected in the automotive industry for his work in the supply base.On leadership: “Every time we face a serious challenge, that also comes with a serious opportunity. And this is an opportunity for people to step up and show their leadership and show their poise, show their creativity, show their grit to be able to get through the situation like we always do like the industry always recovers.”Mentioned in this episode:UAW Strike: Preparing for a Successful Industry Restart, episode with Thomas Kowal, President of Seraph North AmericaMEMA - Motor & Equipment Manufacturers Association (formerly OESA)FMEA - Failure Modes and Effects AnalysisEpisode Highlights:[00:01:26] Legal Challenges and Swift Startup Post-UAW Strike: Explores the legal and operational hurdles in the automotive supply chain post-UAW strike, focusing on the need for swift startup and effective communication across tiers.[00:07:41] Contractual Preparations for Supply Chain Recovery: Critical aspects of supplier contracts are discussed. Dan advises suppliers to review their contracts, especially concerning payment issues, proactively. Understand rights and obligations and establish a clear paper trail to prepare for a rapid startup.[00:14:27] Prioritizing Collaboration in Supplier Contracts: Dan and Jan stress the significance of proactive discussions in supplier contracts, focusing on quality, delivery, and issue resolution. Their approach prioritizes collaboration over legalities, enabling suppliers to better prepare for supply chain challenges.[00:21:09] Embracing change and leading through crisis: This highlight focuses on authentic leadership during times of crisis and the potential for transformation within the automotive industry amid challenges. [00:25:22] Dan's pro tips: Dan provides three essential tips for automotive suppliers: legal preparedness, effective communication, and positive adaptation.Top Quotes:[00:02:27] Dan: “We can expect that when an agreement is reached, the OEMs will want supply to start immediately. And they will push hard to have everybody up and running yesterday with very little notice. So that will certainly be the largest obstacle everybody faces.”[00:16:17] Dan: “It's impossible to make a perfect contract that could address every situation; however, you can have a good contract, you know, one that is very clear and negotiated upfront”[00:16:43] Dan: “I've been advocating for years that you might have more leverage than you think. You may be able to provide some protection for yourself. And I'm not talking about doing a massive red line of the terms and conditions. I'm talking about the fundamental issues that will seriously impact whether you make money or lose money from this contract in the long term: price adjustment, return of capital, and protecting your intellectual property.”[00:21:15] Dan: “I strongly believe you should have a little faith. Our industry has recovered from many things in the past, and we as individuals have recovered from many things in the past; we have to have a certain amount of positivity about our approach… And we must be able to turn it over to a certain extent and think; maybe I can come out of this stronger and better.”[00:24:48] Dan: “The industry and various aspects of it need some transformation. And I'm not just talking about ICE to electric; it needs some transformation in how we do business and interpersonal relationships, more positivity to the approach, and more collaboration.”Related Episodes:UAW Strike: Preparing for a Successful Industry RestartTransforming UAW Strike Negotiations for a Win-Win OutcomeLeadership in Crisis: Navigating the UAW StrikeUAW Strike and the Automotive Industry: Supply Chain Insights