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A new employee at a software company needs access to a variety of tools. In order to get started working, the employee might need Slack, email, Google Docs, and Amazon Web Services, and all of these require an account with a username and password. Setting up all of these accounts can be time consuming, because the company needs to go into their admin portal and create the accounts. The accounts need to have the right security policies and configuration settings. And when the employee leaves the company, all of these accounts need to be shut down. Okta is a company that builds identity and access management software, such as an “SSO (single-sign on)” tool that allows users to log into all of these different types of accounts using only an Okta login. Okta was started in 2009 and has grown steadily since then, going public in 2017. Hector Aguilar is the president of technology at Okta and he joins the show to talk about the software stack of Okta and how the company has evolved over time as it has become a core infrastructure provider and hired a large engineering team. Sponsorship inquiries: sponsor@softwareengineeringdaily.com Check out our active companies and projects: FindCollabs is a place to find collaborators and build projects. Find a project to work on Podsheets is an open source podcast hosting platform built with the learnings from Software Engineering Daily. Our goal is to be the best place to host and monetize your podcast. If you have been thinking about starting a podcast, check out podsheets.com. The SEDaily app for iOS and Android includes all 1000 of our old episodes, as well as related links, greatest hits, and topics. Subscribe for ad-free episodes. The post Okta Engineering with Hector Aguilar appeared first on Software Engineering Daily.

Amazon Web Services first came out in 2006. It took several years before the software industry realized that cloud computing was a transformative piece of technology. Initially, the common perspective around cloud computing was that it was a useful tool for startups, but would not be a smart option for large, established businesses. Cloud computing was not considered economical nor secure. Today, that has changed. Every company that writes software is figuring out how to utilize the cloud. Software companies with on-prem servers are migrating old applications to the cloud, and most companies that have started in the last decade do not even have physical servers.  Applications that are started on the cloud are referred to as “cloud-native.” The architecture of cloud-native applications is a newer topic of discussion, and some software patterns that became established in the pre-cloud era make less sense today. Cornelia Davis is VP of technology at Pivotal and the author of Cloud Native Patterns, a book about developing applications in the distributed, virtual world of the cloud. Cornelia was previously on the show to discuss Cloud Foundry. In today’s episode, our conversation centers on her book, and her perspective on the emerging patterns of cloud native software. Sponsorship inquiries: sponsor@softwareengineeringdaily.com Check out our active companies and projects: FindCollabs is a place to find collaborators and build projects. Find a project to work on Podsheets is an open source podcast hosting platform built with the learnings from Software Engineering Daily. Our goal is to be the best place to host and monetize your podcast. If you have been thinking about starting a podcast, check out podsheets.com. The SEDaily app for iOS and Android includes all 1000 of our old episodes, as well as related links, greatest hits, and topics. Subscribe for ad-free episodes. The post Cloud-Native Applications with Cornelia Davis appeared first on Software Engineering Daily.

The service mesh abstraction allows for a consistent model for managing and monitoring the different components of a microservices architecture.  In the service mesh pattern, each service is deployed with a sidecar container that contains a service proxy. These sidecars are collectively referred to as the “data plane.” Each sidecar provides the service that it is deployed next to with a set of features such as security policy, rate limiting, and monitoring instrumentation. The sidecars in the data plane communicate with a central module called a control plane. In the control plane, an engineer can operate across these individual services at scale, by pushing out updates to them. Kubernetes has made it easier to manage large fleets of microservices, and has led to wider adoption of service mesh. Istio is one of the most popular service mesh products. In today’s show, Varun Talwar returns to the show to describe the state of the Istio project and the process of deploying Istio to a cluster. Varun is the CEO of Tetrate, a company building an enterprise-ready service mesh. Prior to Tetrate, Varun was at Google, where he helped found the gRPC and Istio projects. Sponsorship inquiries: sponsor@softwareengineeringdaily.com ANNOUNCEMENTS FindCollabs is a place to find collaborators and build projects. We recently launched GitHub integrations. It’s easier than ever to find collaborators for your open source projects. And if you are looking for some people to start a project with, FindCollabs we have topic rooms that allow you to find other people who are interested in a particular technology, so that you can find people who are curious about React, or cryptocurrencies, or Kubernetes, or whatever you want to build with. Podsheets is an open source podcast hosting platform that we recently launched. We are building Podsheets with the learnings from Software Engineering Daily, and our goal is to be the best place to host and monetize your podcast. If you have been thinking about starting a podcast, check out podsheets.com. New SEDaily app for iOS and for Android. It includes all 1000 of our old episodes, as well as related links, greatest hits, and topics. You can comment on episodes and have discussions with other members of the community. I’ll be commenting on each episode, so if you hear an episode that you have some commentary on, jump onto the app, or on SoftwareDaily.com to share your thoughts. And you can become a paid subscriber for ad free episodes at softwareengineeringdaily.com/subscribe. Altalogy is the company who has been developing much of the software for the newest app, and if you are looking for a company to help you with your mobile and web development, I recommend checking them out.    The post Service Mesh Deployment with Varun Talwar appeared first on Software Engineering Daily.

Software applications running within a host operating system need to be isolated. Isolation prevents security vulnerabilities, such as one application accessing the memory of another. In modern cloud environments, a single physical host might be running multiple virtual machines on top of a hypervisor. Those virtual machines might be divided up into containers. The different virtual machines and containers might be operated by different users, or even different companies. gVisor is a container sandbox runtime open sourced by Google. gVisor runs containers in a new user-space kernel, and provides a container security system with low overhead. gVisor improves on the previous security properties of containers. Michael Pratt and Yoshi Tamura work on gVisor at Google, and they join the show to talk through the purpose of gVisor and the engineering around the project.  ANNOUNCEMENTS FindCollabs is a place to find collaborators and build projects. FindCollabs is the company I am building, and we are having an online hackathon with $2500 in prizes. If you are working on a project, or you are looking for other programmers to build a project or start a company with, check out FindCollabs. I’ve been interviewing people from some of these projects on the FindCollabs podcast, so if you want to learn more about the community you can hear that podcast. New Software Daily app for iOS. It includes all 1000 of our old episodes, as well as related links, greatest hits, and topics. You can comment on episodes and have discussions with other members of the community. And you can become a paid subscriber for ad free episodes at softwareengineeringdaily.com/subscribe. Altalogy is the company who has been developing much of the software for the newest app, and if you are looking for a company to help you with your mobile and web development, I recommend checking them out. Upcoming conferences I’m attending: Datadog Dash July 16th and 17th in NYC, Open Core Summit September 19th and 20th in San Francisco. We are hiring two interns for software engineering and business development! If you are interested in either position, send an email with your resume to jeff@softwareengineeringdaily.com with “Internship” in the subject line. The post gVisor Container Isolation with Michael Pratt and Yoshi Tamura appeared first on Software Engineering Daily.

Sheng Liang was the lead developer on the original Java Virtual Machine. Today he works as the CEO of Rancher Labs, a company building a platform on top of Kubernetes. Sheng joins the show to discuss his experiences in the technology industry. The container orchestration wars had many victims. The competing standards for how an enterprise should manage its numerous containers caused several companies to go down a path where they were building infrastructure which eventually had to be replaced. As Sheng discusses in today’s episode, the container orchestration wars almost killed his company. Rancher was originally built on top of a different container orchestrator, and the migration to Kubernetes required a massive rewrite of the Rancher platform. The container orchestration wars were not the first technology battle that Sheng has seen in his career–and it won’t be his last. In today’s show, we discuss the nature of technology wars. Are they necessary? How can a software company minimize the damage caused by a war between competing standards? Sheng was an excellent guest and we didn’t cover nearly as many subjects as I wanted to, so we will have to do another show in the future! ANNOUNCEMENTS FindCollabs is a place to find collaborators and build projects. FindCollabs is the company I am building, and we are having an online hackathon with $2500 in prizes. If you are working on a project, or you are looking for other programmers to build a project or start a company with, check out FindCollabs. I’ve been interviewing people from some of these projects on the FindCollabs podcast, so if you want to learn more about the community you can hear that podcast. New Software Daily app for iOS. It includes all 1000 of our old episodes, as well as related links, greatest hits, and topics. You can comment on episodes and have discussions with other members of the community. And you can become a paid subscriber for ad free episodes at softwareengineeringdaily.com/subscribe Upcoming conferences I’m attending: Datadog Dash July 16th and 17th in NYC, Open Core Summit September 19th and 20th in San Francisco We are hiring two interns for software engineering and business development! If you are interested in either position, send an email with your resume to jeff@softwareengineeringdaily.com with “Internship” in the subject line. The post Infrastructure Wars with Sheng Liang appeared first on Software Engineering Daily.

Kubernetes has made distributed systems easier to deploy and manage. As Kubernetes has become reliable, engineers have started to look for higher level abstractions we can define on top of Kubernetes. An operator is a method of packaging, deploying, and managing a Kubernetes application. Operators are useful for spinning up distributed systems such as Kafka, Redis, or MongoDB. These data systems are complicated, stateful applications with lots of failure domains. The operator framework enables a developer to deploy one of these complicated applications with less fear of the system crashing, or entering an erroneous state. Rob Szumski is an engineer at Red Hat. He joins the show to discuss Kubernetes, the operator pattern, and his time at CoreOS, which was acquired by Red Hat. ANNOUNCEMENTS FindCollabs is a place to find collaborators and build projects. FindCollabs is the company I am building, and we are having an online hackathon with $2500 in prizes. If you are working on a project, or you are looking for other programmers to build a project or start a company with, check out FindCollabs. I’ve been interviewing people from some of these projects on the FindCollabs podcast, so if you want to learn more about the community you can hear that podcast. New Software Daily app for iOS. It includes all 1000 of our old episodes, as well as related links, greatest hits, and topics. You can comment on episodes and have discussions with other members of the community. And you can become a paid subscriber for ad free episodes at softwareengineeringdaily.com/subscribe Upcoming conferences I’m attending: Datadog Dash July 16th and 17th in NYC, Open Core Summit September 19th and 20th in San Francisco We are hiring two interns for software engineering and business development! If you are interested in either position, send an email with your resume to jeff@softwareengineeringdaily.com with “Internship” in the subject line. The post Kubernetes Operators with Rob Szumski appeared first on Software Engineering Daily.

Cloud computing was popularized in 2006 with the launch of Amazon Web Services. AWS allowed developers to use remote server infrastructure with a simple set of APIs. But even with AWS, it was still not simple to deploy and manage a web application. In 2007, Heroku launched a platform built on top of AWS. Heroku focused on the developer experience by optimizing for users who were deploying Ruby on Rails applications. Since then, Heroku has expanded into other forms of managed infrastructure, including other application frameworks like NodeJS, and databases like Postgres. Heroku was the first popular “layer 2” cloud provider. Twelve years later, it is probably still the most popular. But there have been many other cloud providers built on top of AWS, including Netlify, Zeit, Spotinst, and Firebase. Layer 1 cloud providers are Google Cloud, AWS, Azure, Digital Ocean, and other raw infrastructure providers. These companies provide a great service in their low cost, commodity infrastructure. But the layer 1 providers are not optimizing for developer experience. They need to cater to a broad set of developers, some of whom want to work at a low level. A layer 2 cloud provider can build an opinionated solution that serves a subset of the overall cloud market particularly well. Render is a layer 2 cloud provider that optimizes for specific developer workflows, such as deploying a NodeJS web server, a static site, or a Docker container. Anurag Goel is the founder of Render, and he joins the show to discuss the strategy and the economics of Render. Anurag was also one of the early employees at Stripe, and he discusses his experience and learnings from working at the company. The post Render: High Level Cloud with Anurag Goel appeared first on Software Engineering Daily.

Google Cloud was started with a vision of providing Google infrastructure to the masses. In 2008, it was not obvious that Google should become a cloud provider. Amazon Web Services was finding success among startups who needed on-demand infrastructure, but the traditional enterprise market was not yet ready to buy cloud resources. Googlers liked the idea of becoming a cloud provider. But was it the right time to enter the market? Google’s advertising business was a large and growing cash cow. Executives within Google were not sure how much capital and effort should be allocated into an infrastructure business. When Google decided to go into the cloud business, Joe Beda was one of the engineers who helped lead the effort, and joins the show as today’s guest. Google’s internal server infrastructure is managed by Borg, a system for allocating resources to applications. Google Cloud runs on Borg, and there were a number of early engineering challenges to building the necessary functionality into Borg for running a cloud provider on top of it. One example of a technical challenge that Google faced was the refactoring of Borg to run Google Cloud workloads. The requirements for public infrastructure are different than those of internal Googlers. Inside of Google, developers deploy their applications to containers running on bare metal. Outside of Google, developers want to create virtual machines. Borg needed to be refactored in order to instantiate VMs. Google solved this technical problem, as well as many other challenges, and Google Cloud slowly gained momentum in the market. But AWS remained the default choice for profitable enterprise workloads. It wasn’t until the container orchestration wars that Google found an opportunity to jump on a market segment that offered strong differentiation. By open sourcing Kubernetes and presenting a clear vision for where the project was going, Google shifted the battlefield of the public cloud toward a competitive landscape where it has many advantages. Kubernetes also provided many other technology companies with an opportunity to get into the cloud market, creating a collaborative, multi-company ecosystem that has accelerated the pace of software faster than anyone expected. Joe Beda has been instrumental in the evolution of the cloud native ecosystem. In today’s episode, Joe gives his memories on Google Cloud, Kubernetes, and his Kubernetes company Heptio, which he sold to VMware. ANNOUNCEMENTS FindCollabs is a place to find collaborators and build projects. FindCollabs is the company I am building, and we are having an online hackathon with $2500 in prizes. If you are working on a project, or you are looking for other programmers to build a project or start a company with, check out FindCollabs. I’ve been interviewing people from some of these projects on the FindCollabs podcast, so if you want to learn more about the community you can hear that podcast. New Software Daily app for iOS. It includes all 1000 of our old episodes, as well as related links, greatest hits, and topics. You can comment on episodes and have discussions with other members of the community. And you can become a paid subscriber for ad free episodes at softwareengineeringdaily.com/subscribe Upcoming conferences I’m attending: Datadog Dash July 16th and 17th in NYC, Open Core Summit September 19th and 20th in San Francisco We are hiring two interns for software engineering and business development! If you are interested in either position, send an email with your resume to jeff@softwareengineeringdaily.com with “Internship” in the subject line. The post Kubernetes Vision with Joe Beda appeared first on Software Engineering Daily.

Containers are made to fail gracefully. When your container shuts down due to a hardware or software failure, your distributed application should be able to tolerate that failure. One simple way to be able to tolerate such a failure is to make all of your application logic “stateless.” If your application does not maintain state, then shutting it down in the middle of a computation is not a problem–you can just restart the application, restart your computation, and get the same result. But applications need to maintain state. We need to use databases and in-memory systems to manage long-lived user sessions and other interactions. A database is not just an on-disk abstraction–a database requires an application server to be accepting network traffic. We can run those database applications within containers. There is a fundamental tension between stateful applications and the idea that containers are meant to tolerate failure gracefully. Saad Ali is an engineer at Google, and he returns to the show to discuss Kubernetes storage and state management. He gave a keynote at KubeCon EU, which I spoke to him about. ANNOUNCEMENTS Upcoming conferences I’m attending: Datadog Dash July 16th and 17th in NYC, Open Core Summit September 19th and 20th in San Francisco We are hiring two interns for software engineering and business development! If you are interested in either position, send an email with your resume to jeff@softwareengineeringdaily.com with “Internship” in the subject line. FindCollabs is the company I am building, we launched several new features recently. If you have a cool project you are working on, I would love to see it. I check out every project that gets posted to FindCollabs, and I’ve been interviewing people from some of these projects on the FindCollabs podcast New Software Daily app for iOS. You can become a paid subscriber for ad free episodes at softwareengineeringdaily.com/subscribe The post Kubernetes Storage with Saad Ali appeared first on Software Engineering Daily.

Amazon Web Services is the leading cloud provider by a large margin. Amazon established its lead by being first to market in 2006, with Google and Microsoft taking several years to catch up to the huge business opportunity of the cloud. Since 2008, Google Cloud has been working on cloud products for developers. It started with App Engine, which is widely used internally at Google, but has not had overwhelming public adoption. Over the last eleven years, Google has refined its understanding of how customers want to buy public cloud resources. Google Cloud products like Cloud Storage, Persistent Disk, and BigTable have given Google parity with many of the AWS public cloud offerings. Although Google has caught up to AWS in terms of products, the enterprise market has continued to choose AWS as its default. AWS is widely perceived as  having more experience in running enterprise workloads, and a better responsiveness to customers. In order to keep Amazon from running away with the cloud market entirely, Google needed to shift the competitive landscape to different territory. Kubernetes provided the paradigm shift that Google needed. The market for cloud providers has changed completely due to Kubernetes. When Google open sourced Kubernetes, it created a common codebase for software companies to build software for managing distributed systems. In the span of five years, Kubernetes has turned the world of cloud products into a world resembling the open source Linux ecosystem. This is a remarkable shift, and every infrastructure software vendor is still figuring out its strategy for adapting. Adam Glick is the head of modern infrastructure and serverless marketing at Google. With Craig Box, he hosts the Kubernetes Podcast from Google, an excellent show about recent developments and evergreen concepts within the world of Kubernetes. Prior to Google, Adam worked at AWS for 3 years and Microsoft for twelve years. He has seen each of the major cloud providers up close and has a deep awareness for how each company thinks. We had a great conversation about the cloud native landscape, podcasting, and developer marketing. ANNOUNCEMENTS Upcoming conferences I’m attending: Datadog Dash July 16th and 17th in NYC, Open Core Summit September 19th and 20th in San Francisco We are hiring two interns for software engineering and business development! If you are interested in either position, send an email with your resume to jeff@softwareengineeringdaily.com with “Internship” in the subject line. FindCollabs is the company I am building, we launched several new features recently. If you have a cool project you are working on, I would love to see it. I check out every project that gets posted to FindCollabs, and I’ve been interviewing people from some of these projects on the FindCollabs podcast New Software Daily app for iOS. You can become a paid subscriber for ad free episodes at softwareengineeringdaily.com/subscribe   The post Kubernetes Market with Adam Glick appeared first on Software Engineering Daily.