The Glory-Cloud Podcast

Since chapter 6 is all about how Megiddo is not Har Magedon, we move quickly through that, and spend most of our time discussing the first few sections of chapter 7.  First, we talk about how heaven must be earned.  Next, we talk about Sabbath and probation.  Finally, we talk about Kline’s argument about merit. Subscribe, download, and tell your friends!   Show Notes:   Give us a 5-star rating on iTunes!  (Click “View in iTunes” and “Ratings and Reviews”) God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 49 - 65 Revelation 16:16 Revelation 9:11 Isaiah 14:13-14 Ezekiel 38 - 39 Proverbs 8 Revelation 1 - 2 Psalm 24   Connect with us on: Facebook Twitter YouTube Spotify iHeartRadio Feedburner  Stitcher Libsyn iTunes Gab Minds Steemit

Everyone (who reads Kline) knows that Har Magedon is a mountain.  But did you know that Eden was a mountain, too?  First we discuss how Eden was a replica of heaven.  Next we talk about how Canaan was like Eden (and like heaven).  We take a moment to camp out on the idea of the Sabbath.  Finally, we talk about how the republication of the covenant of works at Sinai is related to Eden being a mountainous replica of heaven.  You’re going to like this!   Show Notes:   Give us a 5-star rating on iTunes!  (Click “View in iTunes” and “Ratings and Reviews”) God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 40 - 48 Genesis 1:2 Genesis 3:8 Ezekiel 28:13-14 Genesis 13 Ezekiel 47:12 Psalm 132:8 Isaiah 66 Hebrews 4 Hebrews 3-5 Isaiah 14:13 Psalm 48:2 Genesis 3 Hosea 6:7 Matthew 1-5 Isaiah 2:1-2 Ezekiel 28 Isaiah 6 Genesis 2 Isaiah 54 Isaiah 31:5 Psalm 24   Connect with us on: Facebook Twitter YouTube Spotify iHeartRadio Feedburner  Stitcher Libsyn iTunes Gab Minds Steemit

Chapter 4 is the last one that focuses on heaven the way this book has been so far. In this chapter, Kline suggests that the Spirit replicates the glory of God in every aspect of creation.  For example, we see the theme of the Spirit of God overshadowing persons or groups of people throughout the Bible.  In the same way, God designed certain things in creation to serve that same overshadowing function.  But we also talk about patriarchy and Kline’s unique take on the image of God in man.  There’s something for everyone!   Show Notes:   Give us a 5-star rating on iTunes!  (Click “View in iTunes” and “Ratings and Reviews”) God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 31 - 39 Genesis 1:1-2 Nehemiah 9:19-20 Deuteronomy 32:10-12 Matthew 17:5 Mark 9:7 Luke 9:34 Psalm 19 Genesis 2:2-3 Hebrews 4 Psalm 82 Colossians 3:10 Daniel 12 Job Psalm 104:6   Connect with us on: Facebook Twitter YouTube Spotify iHeartRadio Feedburner  Stitcher Libsyn iTunes Gab Minds Steemit

What will it be like when God transforms this creation into the new heavens and new earth?  That is the topic Kline is dealing with in this chapter.  One possibility is that there will be a lot of continuity with this creation.  Another possibility is that there will be such radical discontinuity that it is almost as though God must create everything all over again.  Give the episode a listen and let us know what you think!   Show Notes:   Give us a 5-star rating on iTunes!  (Click “View in iTunes” and “Ratings and Reviews”) God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 18 - 27 Ephesians 6 Isaiah 51:6 Revelation 6:14 2 Peter 3:10-13 Genesis 8:22 Isaiah 11:6-9 Isaiah 65:25 Genesis 2 Romans 8:19-22 1 Thessalonians 4:17-18   Connect with us on: Facebook Twitter YouTube Spotify iHeartRadio Feedburner  Stitcher Libsyn iTunes Gab Minds Steemit

We’re treading in deep water this week.  First, Kline talks about the physical manifestation of the Holy Spirit in the initial creation of the invisible heavens.  Kline calls that physical manifestation of the Holy Spirit “endoxation.”  Next, we talk about the Holy Spirit’s role in the incarnation, and the relationship between the persons of the Trinity.  Finally, we distinguish what Kline is saying from what Scott Oliphint is saying.   Show Notes:   Give us a 5-star rating on iTunes!  (Click “View in iTunes” and “Ratings and Reviews”) God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 10 - 15 Genesis 1:1 Colossians 1:16 Job 38:7 Genesis 1:2 Exodus Hebrews 4 Ephesians 4 Genesis 22   Connect with us on: Facebook Twitter YouTube Spotify iHeartRadio Feedburner  Stitcher Libsyn iTunes Gab Minds Steemit

This week we begin Kline’s last book: God, Heaven and Har Magedon.  Chapter one is all about heaven.  First we talk about how even though heaven is currently invisible, it is not far away.  Next, we talk about heaven is the temple.  Finally, we talk about how we should not be focused on or satisfied with this world.  We should be longing for the new heavens and the new earth.   Show Notes:   Give us a 5-star rating on iTunes!  (Click “View in iTunes” and “Ratings and Reviews”) God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 3 - 9 Isaiah 6 Ezekiel 1 Revelation 1 Daniel Deuteronomy 26 Hebrews 4 Revelation 21:22 Isaiah 4:5-6 Revelation 15:8 John 3 2 Peter   Connect with us on: Facebook Twitter YouTube Spotify iHeartRadio Feedburner  Stitcher Libsyn iTunes Gab Minds Steemit

This week we try a live YouTube broadcast so that we can take listener questions live, in real time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6A6pcG2QoM    Show Notes:   Give us a 5-star rating on iTunes!  (Click “View in iTunes” and “Ratings and Reviews”)   1. Would God deliver Israel out of bondage, only to deliver them out of a covenant of works? Acts 15:10   2. Jeff - 2 Thessalonians 2 and the man of lawlessness - Revelation 11 Daniel 7   3. Doesn’t Kline’s Framework Interpretation mean that we don’t have to take Genesis literally? Genesis 1-2 Hebrews 4   4. Michael - Are there any arguments for the Framework Interpretation that you struggled with, or thought were weak arguments?   5. Objection to intrusion ethics - doesn’t intrusion ethics mean that we have nothing to say to the unbelieving world? Luke 24 John 3   6. Does Kline represent True Reformed Theology?   7. How do Klinean issues like republication or Framework help or hurt men who are pursuing ordination in various presbyteries?   8. Are Klineans silencing pastors from talking about political or social issues?   9. Tony - Was the Abrahamic covenant “A” covenant of grace that typified “THE” covenant of grace to be inaugurated in Jesus Christ’s blood? Galatians 3:8 Genesis 12 Galatians 2-4 Romans 4-5 Hebrews 11 Genesis 3 Romans 11:16ff.   Connect with us on: Facebook Twitter YouTube Spotify iHeartRadio Feedburner  Stitcher Libsyn iTunes Gab Minds Steemit

Now that we have finished Glory in Our Midst, we take a break to take some listener questions.   Show Notes:   Give us a 5-star rating on iTunes!  (Click “View in iTunes” and “Ratings and Reviews”)   1. What is Republication? Genesis 3:8 Hosea 6:7   2. How does Kline understand 2 Thessalonians 2? 1 Thessalonians 5 2 Peter 3:10 Revelation Daniel 11 - 12 1 John Galatians 4   3. What is New Covenant Theology?   4.  What about the importance of the Jewish people? Romans 9 Hosea 1:9 Revelation 3:9 Galatians 3:28   5. How can Adam be a type of a federal head and a federal head at the same time? The Tale of Two Adams by Chris Caughey (Amazon) The Tale of Two Adams by Chris Caughey (free PDF) Romans 5:12 1 Corinthians 15:40-50 Ephesians 5:22-33   6. What do you think about J.V. Fesko’s new book on apologetics? Reforming Apologetics by J.V. Fesko Classical Apologetics by R.C. Sproul The Defense of the Faith by Cornelius Van Til   Connect with us on: Facebook Twitter YouTube Spotify iHeartRadio Feedburner  Stitcher Libsyn iTunes Gab Minds Steemit

We wrap up Zechariah’s seventh and final night vision.  First, we talk about the crown that was made for Joshua.  Next, we talk about the covenant of redemption and the fact that believers in Jesus are the reward that Jesus receives for his obedience.  Lastly, we talk about the republication of the covenant of works in the Mosaic covenant, and the fact that Jesus fulfills the law on our behalf.   Show Notes:   Give us a 5-star rating on iTunes!  (Click “View in iTunes” and “Ratings and Reviews”) Glory In Our Midst by Meredith G. Kline Glory In Our Midst pp. 219 - 238 Zechariah 6:9-15 Chiastic structure: a. The branch (rightful heir of the throne) b. He shall build the temple b. He shall build the temple a. Royal honor 2 Samuel 7 Revelation 22 Psalm 45 Psalm 110:3 Matthew 21 Ephesians 1-3 Psalm 24:3-5 Revelation 5   Connect with us on: Facebook Twitter YouTube Spotify iHeartRadio Feedburner  Stitcher Libsyn iTunes Gab Minds Steemit

We begin Zechariah’s seventh and final night vision.  First, we talk about the the two mountains.  Next, we talk about chariots.  Lastly, we talk about the final judgement and the Sabbath.   Show Notes:   Give us a 5-star rating on iTunes!  (Click “View in iTunes” and “Ratings and Reviews”) Glory In Our Midst by Meredith G. Kline Glory In Our Midst pp. 203 - 217 Zechariah 6:1-8 Chiastic structure:      a. Vision one - nations           b. Vision two - Land of Judah                c. Vision three - Jerusalem                     d. Vision four - holy of Holies                c1. Vision five - Jerusalem           b1. Vision six - Land of Judah      a. Vision seven - nations Genesis 15 Deuteronomy 27 Zechariah 14:5 Ezekiel 1 (especially verse 7) Daniel 7 Revelation 1 1 Kings 7 Isaiah 14:13 Psalm 48:2 Psalm 68 Zechariah 2:13 Daniel 11 Ezekiel 38 - 39 Psalm 132:8 Genesis 1 Pg. 216 Isaiah 25:10 Genesis 2 Genesis 1:2   Connect with us on: Facebook Twitter YouTube Spotify iHeartRadio Feedburner  Stitcher Libsyn iTunes Gab Minds Steemit