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Nov 17, 2020 • 36min

496: Ali Brown | How to Grow Fast

The world’s most recognized business coach for women entrepreneurs, Ali Brown, is known as the host of the acclaimed Glambition® Radio podcast, and founder of https://jointhetrust.org (The Trust): the new, private network for $1M+ women entrepreneurs. Her coaching and consulting enterprise has ranked within the Inc. 500 list of fastest growing private companies in the nation. She has been named one of Forbes’ Women to Watch, is one of EY’s Winning Women Entrepreneurs, and was featured on the ABC hit primetime show "Secret Millionaire”. Ali specializes helping women entrepreneurs who are making or on track for 7-8 figures strategize and realize their next level of leadership and revenues.  Without further ado, let’s jump right into the episode and learn strategies on how to grow your business fast! Things you will learn in this episode: [00:01 - 07:35] Opening Segment I introduce today’s guest, Ali Brown Activities and Success Announcements  https://travischappell.typeform.com/to/kmf5p4 (travischapel.com/makemypodcast) Ali gives us some background on her story  Restless child  Driven by dissatisfaction  8 jobs in 6 years Loved copywriting  Quit to pursue freelancing  Learning networking  Creating products for what people wanted  This years actions   The Trust [07:36 - 13:33] What’s the Next Chapter The early days creating online content  Lack of saturation at the time  One of the first women in the industry  Ali talks about shifting her networking  Unaware of the other people bringing competition  Time for a new network  Seeking out recognition based on prior credibility  Ali gives advice about making a pivot  In this day and age it can happen fast Who you are becoming in the process I wouldn’t change a thing  [13:34 - 23:40] Creating a Network  Who you know or What you know? It depends on your area on the ladder of success  Even unqualified people become successful because of who they know Ali gives advice around your circle  Sometimes it takes changing around  Not cutting out, but adding  How women differ in networking Tendency to network laterally  Seek out higher levels  How people can be more strategic  Know who it is you want to work with  Simple as seeking out and having a conversation  They are more reachable than you think  Ali’s strategy  The value of podcasting  Opening up doors  Business development [23:41 - 27:25] Grow Fast Strategies Ali gives strategies to grow your business fast Look for ways to work closely with people  Ways to spend time with clients  Right place, right time  Ali’s Inc 500 How Ali Grew  Coaching small groups then mass  Live stream launches  Always ahead of the curve Innovation tipping point [27:26 - 33:41] Closing Segment Timing, luck, and dedication Engineering luck  Love what you’re doing  The RaNdoM RoUnd Remember to upload and tag us on instagram! Final words  Tweetable Quotes:  “I believe it’s impossible to gain a perspective until you’re truly there.” - Ali Brown “I think the biggest mistake you can make if you’re looking for growth, is looking at what everyone else in your industry is doing.” - Ali Brown Resources Mentioned:  https://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Freelance-Writer-Make-Year/dp/0805078037 (Secrets of a Freelance Writer) https://jointhetrust.org (Join The Trust) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/glambition-radio-with-ali-brown/id799805829 (Glambition® Radio Podcast) https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=the+big+leap&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=active (The Big Leap) You can connect with Ali on https://www.linkedin.com/in/alibrownla/ (LinkedIn), https://www.facebook.com/alibrownfan/ (Facebook),...Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Nov 16, 2020 • 25min

495: Ross Winn | Blogging For the Win!

Today I have the pleasure of interviewing the king of online content, Ross Winn. Ross is the founder of https://www.podcastinsights.com/ (Podcasts Insights), the largest podcast education website with over 1M page views per month. When he’s not hosting his show, Podcasting Simplified, he also helps run an equine-therapy non-profit that serves first responders and veterans.  I’m excited to dive right in and grab some awesome nuggets from Ross all around building a winning blog or any asset platform.  Things you will learn in this episode: [00:01 - 04:03] Opening Segment I introduce today’s guest, Ross Winn Founder of Podcast Insights  Non-profit  Host of Podcasting Simplified Announcements  Ross gives us some background  Became an entrepreneur even during high school  Went to school for Business Marketing Taking over SEO and Email Marketing for a nation-wide franchise [04:04 - 11:00] Blogging for the Win Ross gives advice to people trying to find their path  Be willing to work for free to build experience and credibility  Learning over Earning  How Ross transitioned from working for a company to working for himself  Started with a Mastermind for Business Owners  Pushed to create a podcast critiquing ads  Became a podcast about making podcasts Already had the base with the blog when he was laid off Ross talks about making his blog a long term project Blessing in disguise  [11:01 - 17:45] The Best Practices of a Successful Blog  Ross shares about resources and ideas for blog posts  Using Ahrefs  Shooting for over 1,000 words  Cover the topic completely  The factors in blogs that perform well  Adding synonyms and keywords  Looking at competing articles  Ross talks about promotional materials  Other best tools and practices  Growing your email list  Aligning opt-ins to the category  Ross’s insights on written content  Thoughts on release schedule  [17:46 - 23:15] Closing Segment Who you know or What you know?  A little bit of both  Learn then connect  Where have your relationships led you today? Example of getting tickets traffic and conversion  How can we support you?  Links below  The RaNdoM RoUnd Alternative profession?  An hour with anyone?  How do you consume content? Favorite podcast?  Morning routine?  Something you’re not good at? Go to pump up song?  How can we connect with you? Links below  Final words  Tweetable Quotes:  “You might not want to do this for a long time, but just be willing to do work for free to get those first clients and get testimonials from people to show that you do good work.” - Ross Winn  “To get started I think it was more about what I knew and could research, but as I grew I really think that who I knew and the relationships I made were really what took me to the next level.” - Ross Winn  Resources Mentioned:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/podcasting-simplified/id1337151390 (Podcasting Simplified) https://ahrefs.com/ (Ahrefs SEO Tool) https://www.buzzsprout.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwlvT8BRDeARIsAACRFiU5xCkFACjjqNWYiYzMnsAHRYyBt0wV46ZhyOMHqm_9aK2rFd5FhM8aAlVVEALw_wcB (Buzzsprout ) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-authority-hacker-podcast/id1073349789 (The Authority Hacker ) You can connect with Ross on https://twitter.com/paidinsights?lang=en (Twitter) or email ross@paidinsights.com. Visit https://www.podcastinsights.com/ (www.podcastinsights.com/) to learn more about how to grow and monetize your platform. Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world class people.  Jump on overCheck out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Nov 13, 2020 • 17min

494: BYN Breakdown | How to Build a Well-Rounded Network

Eric and Travis discuss the importance of building a well-rounded network. Key Takeaways: Make sure to network up in order to level up. Collaborate with those who are on your level. Turn around and help those coming up behind you. Put yourself in situations far beyond you to find mentors who are more free to help you. Tweetable Quotes: Your network is your net worth. Be with people who raise your average. Resources Mentioned: Follow along with me on Instagram- @travischappell Visit my website for more information on resources and announcements:https://travischappell.com/ ( https://travischappell.com) Join the Facebook group to find community: https://travischappell.com/group (https://travischappell.com/group) Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Nov 11, 2020 • 47min

493: Mashup | Raw Conversations with Veterans (ft. Joost Janssen, Aaron Hale, and Eric Kapitulik)

Joost Janssen, former Navy Seal, Aaron Hale, 14-year military veteran and founder a chocolate business, E.O.D, and Eric Kapitulik, founder of The Program share stories, takeaways, and life lessons from their time in the military. On this episode: Joost gives an intimate look at the Navy Seal training process. Aaron reflects on doing an IED check while on duty in Afghanistan, when a secondary device detonated and damaged his eyes beyond repair, entirely blinding him. Eric shares key life lessons learned from his time at the United States Naval Academy and the United States Marine Corps. Travis and Eric have an important dialogue about failure and the opportunity to reframe failure in a positive light. Key Takeaways: It’s not enough to not quit, you also have to function. You can find your purpose and direction through continually challenging yourself. Build a habit of courage. Tweetable Quotes: "In every situation, you either practice quitting or not quitting." Resources Mentioned: Follow along with me on Instagram- @travischappell Visit my website for more information on resources and announcements:https://travischappell.com/ ( https://travischappell.com) Join the Facebook group to find community: https://travischappell.com/group (https://travischappell.com/group) Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Nov 10, 2020 • 1h 13min

492: Sean Cannell | The 10 Year Overnight Success

Today’s perseverance is tomorrow’s success. If ever there was an embodiment of this, it’s today’s guest Sean Cannell, CEO of https://www.thinkmedia.video (Think Media) and co-founder of https://videoinfluencers.net (Video Influencers). Sean has a passion for helping leaders build their influence and profits with YouTube and online video. He has been featured on Forbes “20 Must Watch YouTube Channels That Will Change Your Business,” Social Media Examiner and Success.com. Aside from having over a million subscribers on YouTube, he is a keynote speaker who has spoken to groups ranging from 50 to 2000+, and runs a 7-figure video education company.  I can’t wait to dive right in and learn more about Sean’s story of pushing through and finding success through connections and experiences you find along the way. Things you will learn in this episode: [00:01 - 14:35] Opening Segment I introduce today’s guest, Sean Cannell Activities and Success In person interview! Announcements  https://guestio.com/ (Guestio.com) Sean gives us some background on his story  Sean’s early life  The rebel lifestyle  The entrepreneur spirit  Step son to an entrepreneur  Creativity and structure  Sean’s thoughts on schooling  Problem of the school system Discerning the unique wiring of your kids Lessons from early life Always do the hard thing first Buying his first car  The value of money and hard work Going through hard times  [14:36 - 26:22] The Wake Up Call Sean shares his time after junior highschool Finished out credits at community college  Worked at Red Robin  Realized the need for a different life Attending Bible college Back on track  The start of making videos  Started making videos for church  Self taught  Taking the first step  Just go some direction You know you don’t want to be where you are Sean shares his experience in college and church  Mismanaging money  Got on the radio as a campus job  Committed fully to the local church  The catalyst to today’s success  The value of volunteering  Honoring God with excellence  [26:23 - 41:34] It’s Time to Level Up; The Years to Success Transitioning away from that church Learned key leadership skills  Good and the bad  Wife’s health deteriorates First business Solo entrepreneur  Sean shares his experience while at the hospital  Hearing from Gary V Now is the time to cash in on your passion  Fighting for your family  Sean talks about his big pivot  Through relationships and connections Director of communications at a church in LV Learning other processes from professionals  First successful projects  Sean talks about his shift into entrepreneurship  The move to becoming a campus pastor  More leadership lessons  Feeling like Michael Jordan playing baseball Transitioned out and back to Vegas Building YouTube  Started losing freelance clients  Go all in; October 2015 [41:35 - 52:23] What Can Happen When You Stay on the Path Sean talks about his time scaling a team Building a team culture Learning team building and delegation  Meeting people through internships  The value of learning leadership in church  Having people help you scale by their strengths Sean shares his insights on pushing through  Documentary on his life  Sean’s projects Still on mission  Helping 1,000, 10,000, 1,000,000 people  Solving problems through video  Creating an online course  Investing in YouTube  Digital real estate  Sean shares his insights in the trajectory of online media  Not much change for the next 5 years  Viewership under lockdown has gone way up Keeping your courses current  It’s still a good investment [52:24 - 1:10:55] Closing Segment Who you know or What...Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Nov 9, 2020 • 52min

491: Tucker Max | A Better Way to Live Life

At the end of the day, we are only responsible for ourselves and our internal experience. Today we’re looking inward with Tucker Max, Co-Founder of https://scribewriting.com/ (Scribe Writing), and author of I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell. Tucker’s life hadn’t always been easy. Going through many negative experiences, he left his destructive lifestyle behind and pursued his affinity for writing. Years of rejection after rejection from publishers, he broke through and has since been labeled best selling author of several titles. Today, Tucker is on a mission to unlock the wisdom of the world by helping executives and entrepreneurs turn their ideas and messages into books. Let’s dive right into Tucker’s wild story and learn about a better way to live.  Things you will learn in this episode: [00:01 - 11:28] Opening Segment I introduce today’s guest, Tucker Max What Tucker is known for  Tucker gives some background on his life growing up  Lived in Kentucky  A miserable time with a broken family  Good at school  Grew up playing basketball in Lexington  Able to fit into any group  Tucker’s time at a law firm  Emotionally disconnected  Just following the typical life structure  Fired after two weeks  Tucker talks about his time working for his dad About Tucker’s dad  Fired by his dad [11:29 - 17:35] There is an Audience  Tucker talks about finding his affinity for writing  Sent his content out to publishers Rejection on a personalized level  Started a blog on his own  Tucker’s first book  Written 2002 then came out 2006 Bottomed out at 900 copies then came back up Found an audience by being funny and current  Insights on writing something good The people who find value in it  Just putting in work isn’t good enough  Work to resonate with people  [17:36 - 36:07] There Has to Be a Better Way Tucker shares about his life post first book release A movie made from his life  Wrote three more books  Wildly successful having everything you could ever need Still not happy  Getting into personal development  Tucker shares his time in psychotherapy  The overwhelming nature of meditation  Changing the game  Processing the trauma  Finding happiness by dealing with the trauma  Tucker’s life now  Father and husband  Secure attachments  The effect of keeping in your emotions  Your body doesn’t forget the fight or flight  The animal analogy  The problem of religion  Internalized experienced versus the externalized  [36:08 - 50:01] Closing Segment Who you know or What you know? The what doesn’t matter, just the who  Tucker’s definition of success  The internal and external Advice for people having trouble with relationships We are a bunch of traumatized monkeys  Get off the ship  Ask how am I showing up?  How are you healing yourself?  Take full responsibility for yourself  You don’t have a relationship problem, you have a ‘you’ problem Don’t adopt a victimhood lifestyle What would you want to be your primary message? Getting rid of the virus of victimhood  Complete radical responsibility for yourself  Everything starts at home  The RanDoM ROuNd Resources and links below  Final words  Tweetable Quotes:  “There’s one definition of good: does this resonate with people? Do they get value from it? Do they want to engage with it? Do they want to share it?” - Tucker Max “Having a map of Manhattan doesn’t really tell you what Manhattan is like, you kinda gotta walk the island… Knowing what you feel and feeling what you feel are totally different things.” - Tucker Max “My definition of success is doing things that matter with the people I love.” - Tucker Max  “All growth and all healing starts with taking...Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Nov 6, 2020 • 8min

490: BYN Breakdown | A Software Simplifying the Podcast Booking Process

Travis Chappell and his producer, Eric, discuss the reason Travis founded Guestio – a software that is changing the game when it comes to booking guests for your podcast, YouTube channel or other platform. Resources Mentioned: Follow along with me on Instagram- @travischappell Visit my website for more information on resources and announcements:https://travischappell.com/ ( https://travischappell.com) Join the Facebook group to find community: https://travischappell.com/group (https://travischappell.com/group) Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Nov 4, 2020 • 40min

489: Winning Big In Politics (Ft. Tameka Montgomery, Tomi Lahren, and Phillip Stutts)

Tameka Montgomery, founder of the podcast, Raising Entrepreneurs, and CEO of Core Strategy Partners, Tomi Lahren, Fox News contributor and youngest political talk show host in history, and Phillip Stutts, Founder and CEO of two startup marketing companies, and author of Fire Them Now, The Seven Lies that Digital Marketers Sell, all share how to win big in the political conversation. Key Takeaways: Connections are key. Be unapologetic about your message. Everything you do is based on 3 R's – reputation, relationships, and referrals. Tweetable Quotes:  build authentic personal relationships so that they meet their customers for where they are not for what the company wants to talk about. – Phillip Stutts Resources Mentioned: Follow along with me on Instagram- @travischappell Visit my website for more information on resources and announcements:https://travischappell.com/ ( https://travischappell.com) Join the Facebook group to find community: https://travischappell.com/group (https://travischappell.com/group) Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Nov 3, 2020 • 35min

488: Maurice Ashley | Chess Grandmaster Gives Life Insights

For those who are pursuing world-class caliber, today we’ll learn from my guest, Maurice Ashley, the Chess Grandmaster. This man lives his passion through his love for chess, and he not only made history as the first African-American Grandmaster in the annals of the game but he has managed to translate his love to others as a three-time national championship coach, author, ESPN commentator, iPhone app designer, puzzle inventor, and motivational speaker. Maurice has a wealth of experience from traveling the world as an ardent spokesperson of the many character-building effects of chess. Let’s tune in together and grab some powerful life insights from the Grandmaster himself. Things you will learn in this episode: [00:01 - 08:09] Opening Segment I introduce today’s guest, Maurice Ashley Maurice gives some background on his story Early childhood  Raised in Jamaica by his Grandmother  Free-time activities  Built a love for games  The transition from Jamaica to the US  Educational life [08:10 - 14:06] So Much More Than a Game  Maurice talks about his story of getting into chess Going into the chess club  Chess finds you  The brain for the game How chess sharpens other areas  It’s about making good decisions on every move  Getting inside the mind of the opponent  Patience and diligence  [14:07 - 25:24] Pursuing the Elements of World-Class; Insights from Chess  Maurice talks about pursuing world-class  Being a humble learner  Look at the best in your field  Don’t imitate, emulate  Willingness to fail  Improving at the plateau  Process over result  The goal to become a grandmaster  Maurice’s college experience  Becoming better than Brooklyn 15 years to get to that level  Maurice explains the tiers  The martial arts analogy  Top of the food chain  Beating the people with the title  Takeaways from Chess You can come in at every level  So many resources online  Having an opponent with real ideas  The person you speak to have ideas  Learn what others think  [25:25 - 33:04] Closing Segment The importance of embracing failure  Take the lessons and grow  How to make decisions in life? There is no system or sequence  Every situation has it’s own process  Look for the expectations as well as the rules  Think about the other person first  Stop and analyze  Who are people that inspire you?  Learning through books Tim Ferriss Jacky Robinson  Fredrick Douglass  Dr. King and Malcolm  Sports stars and business leaders  Final words  Tweetable Quotes:  “Chess finds you… it’s a little bit like a virus except it’s not looking necessarily for everybody who’s gonna get obsessed with it. There are certain people’s brains work a certain kind of way, and it goes, ‘ok, I got a Live One here!’” - Maurice Ashley “I think anyone who wants to be world-class, there are certain elements that have to be in their tool-kit. The biggest one is to be a humble learner.” - Maurice Ashley  “It’s much more important that you get inside the other person’s head, really parse out what they’re about every time we act…. It’s always we, not just me.” - Maurice Ashley  Resources Mentioned:  https://amzn.to/3kSq6Dp (Mastery) You can connect with Maurice on https://www.linkedin.com/in/mauriceashley/ (LinkedIn), https://twitter.com/MauriceAshley?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor (Twitter), and https://www.instagram.com/mauriceashleychess/?hl=en (Instagram). Visit https://mauriceashley.com/ (https://mauriceashley.com/) to learn more about his space. Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share...Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Nov 2, 2020 • 40min

487: Kara Goldin | Growing a Huge Business You Actually Care About

Today’s guest is on par with the likes of Mark Zuckerberg and Steve Jobs. I have the pleasure of interviewing Kara Goldin, Founder and CEO of https://www.drinkhint.com/ (Hint Inc). Kara is a disruptor, builder, thought leader, and a successful entrepreneur who has been named one of InStyle’s Badass 50, Fast Company’s Most Creative People in Business, Fortune’s Most Powerful Women Entrepreneurs, Fortune's Most Innovative Women in Food & Drink, and EY Entrepreneur of the Year for Northern California. She is an active speaker, author of the book titled Undaunted, and host of the podcast The Kara Goldin Show. Let’s jump in and learn from Kara’s story how to grow a huge business you actually care about.  Things you will learn in this episode: [00:01 - 08:50] Opening Segment I introduce today’s guest, Kara Goldin Activities and Success Announcements  https://guestio.com/ (Guestio.com) Kara gives us some background on her story  Kara’s childhood  School life  Early job experience  Always curious and learning [08:51 - 16:55] Cultivating Curiosity  Kara talks about her sense of curiosity and how it played into her life  Always doing something in sports  Curiosity forces creativity  Able to look at the company as a whole and approach things differently  Breaking traditions  Kara talks about cultivating curiosity as a parent  The challenges  Kara’s story having a start-up with a child  Being an example as an entrepreneurial woman Bringing the kids into the conversation  Propelling them to do things way harder than you had to [16:56 - 30:17] Growing a Huge Business You Actually Care About Kara talks about setting out after high school  Parents caring about graduating from college  Got a job first with a magazine  Finding a job despite the negativity  Kara’s transition over to AOL Learning from watching Steve Jobs  Acquired by AOL  Running shopping on the site  Decided to leave and make a difference  Kara shares about building a business following her growing interest in health Lost 24 pounds, and cleared her skin by cutting out diet coke These days, it’s hard to get healthy with odds stacked against consumers Realized there was a hole in the market for healthy drinks  Now one of the largest health beverages in the country  Kara talks about her book Overcoming doubters and doubts  Champions have doubts too, but they get back up and try  An honest entrepreneur book [30:18 - 38:17] Closing Segment How relationships have impacted you? No way to build this company without a team  Thoughts on mentorship and coaching Invested in by John Legend Who you know or What you know? A bit of both  How you get information The RaNdoM RoUnd What profession would you love to try out? An hour with anyone about anything? How do you consume content?  Favorite Podcast? Morning routine  Go to pump up song  Something you’re not very good at? How to connect with you?  Links below  Final words  Tweetable Quotes:  “When you’re educating, and being educated, I think that you have a lot of fun doing it.” - Kara Goldin “When I hear there are no jobs out there, I think it’s a great time to actually get a job, raise money, whatever you think you can’t do… Figuring out a way can be challenging at times, but if there’s a will there’s a way.” - Kara Goldin “Who you know ultimately helps you think, and helps you get information.” - Kara Goldin Resources Mentioned:  Buy a copy of her book, Undaunted. Overcoming Doubts + Doubters, here: www.drinkhint.com/network You can connect with Kara on https://www.linkedin.com/in/karagoldin/ (LinkedIn), https://twitter.com/karagoldin?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor (Twitter), and https://www.instagram.com/karagoldin/?hl=en (Instagram). Visit...Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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