

Travis Makes Money
Travis Chappell
You can't save your way to your dream life anymore. The truth is, you’re gonna need to learn to make more money. The Travis Makes Money Podcast is not your typical personal finance show. Rather than shaming you for buying a Starbucks coffee or pressuring you to become a billionaire, we focus on empowering you to make more money so you can enjoy life today while preparing for your future. You don’t have to cut back so much that you miss out on the present, and you don’t need to become the next Jeff Bezos either. Hosted by veteran podcaster Travis Chappell, each daily episode features interviews with regular people just like you – yes, you – who have learned how to make more money in unique and unconventional ways. From turning side hustles into an extra six figures to building massive business empires, these conversations dive into the mindset shifts, hard-earned lessons, and simple strategies that helped these individuals succeed. With over 1,000 podcast episodes under his belt, Travis has developed a unique ability to pull out inspiring stories and practical advice you can apply to your own financial journey that you just won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you’re looking for strategies on side hustles, skill building, investing, building generational wealth, or just motivation to take your next steps, this podcast is your resource. Tune in daily for insights, actionable tips, and inspiration from some of the most successful and interesting money-makers on the planet.
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Mar 22, 2021 • 34min
566: Levi Lusko | Why You Shouldn't Avoid Struggle
Whether you know it or not, you have skills and abilities that lend themselves towards your calling in life, and the struggles you go through to get there are what will get you ready for it.Here to talk about that today is Levi Lusko, Pastor and pioneer of Fresh Life Church, which has now grown to have multiple locations including Montana, Utah, Oregon, and Wyoming. Levi is a world-class communicator and leader, and through online streaming, the ministry reaches around the world. Levi is also the author of the bestselling books Through the Eyes of a Lion, Swipe Right and most recently I Declare War. I’m looking forward to Levi’s insights today as we dive into why you shouldn't avoid struggle and instead lean into it and let it build you up.Things you will learn in this episode: [00:01 - 05:36] Opening Segment
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I introduce today’s guests Levi Lusko
Pastor of Fresh Life Church
Author of I Declare
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Levi gives some background into his life
Moving around as a kid
The fire of calling
The passion to speak
[05:37 - 18:44] Why You Shouldn’t Avoid Struggle
Levi shares around finding your calling
Find what makes you angry
What do you enjoy doing
What do people ask your help with
Your definition of creativity
Creativity and genius
The parallel of God as a creator
Levi talks about walking into his calling
Starting in Bible College
Ministry is caught more than it’s taught
Finding mentorship
Not looking for glamor
Putting in the work in the small things
Develop your gift and character
Don’t despise small beginnings
Levi’s early days
The importance of education
Adhering to your learning style
A word from our sponsor
[18:45 - 28:06] Following a Calling
Levi talks about becoming a lead pastor
Not a stepping stone to bigger things
The best way to make a difference
Getting put on the platform
The desire to build something
The analogy of a butterfly fighting out of a cocoon
The current state of Levi’s church
Current locations and future locations
Online streaming
Levi’s most recent book
How to get out of your own way
Links below
[28:07 - 33:59] Closing Segment
Who you know or What you know?
Two is better than one
Compounding strength and experience
ThE RaNdOm RoUnd
How to engage with Levi
Links below
Final words
Tweetable Quotes: “If you find a calling… there’s gonna challenges, there’s gonna be hard days, there’s gonna be setbacks where you fall flat on your butt.” - Levi Lusko“It’s like that classic Michael Jordan quote, ‘It’s what’s done in empty gyms, that fills up stadiums one day…’ Don’t despise the day of small beginnings.” - Levi Lusko“If you’re just handed everything one day, it’ll destroy you if you don’t have the weight of character and integrity you built up over time to support that kind of intensity.” - Levi LuskoResources Mentioned:
I Declare War: Four Keys to Winning the Battle with Yourself
Audible Version
Connect with Levi on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. Go and check out https://levilusko.com/ and learn more about owning your struggle.Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people. Jump on over to travischappell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website a travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 19, 2021 • 9min
565: BYN Breakdown | How to Create a Compelling Offer
Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people. Jump on over to travischapell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website a travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 17, 2021 • 27min
564: MASHUP | How to Conquer Fear ft. Ed Mylett, Lori Harder, and Nik Wallenda
Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people. Jump on over to travischapell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website a travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 16, 2021 • 36min
563: Kira Hug | Copywriting For Jasmine Star, James Wedmore, and More
Copywriting has to be one of the most important factors in the success of the launch of a business. Today, I have one of the best in the business, Kira Hug. Kira helps small business owners and SaaS companies sell their ideas, products, services, and programs through copy that creates meaningful conversation. She’s unique in her approach because she allows business owners to ‘own their weird,’ and be fully true to themselves. She is also the co-host of the Copywriter Club Podcast. I can’t wait to hear more from Kira’s story and learn more about winning copywriting that successfully launched for names like Jasmine Star and James Wedmore. Things you will learn in this episode: [00:01 - 06:40] Opening Segment
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I introduce today’s guest Kira Hug
Host of Copywriter Club Podcast
Copywriter for many big-name, successful launches
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Kira gives us some background
Moving to Virginia during the awkward phase
Daughter of a pilot
Always into community building and connection
Into art and creativity as a kid
Following the artist’s path
[06:41 - 16:52] Relationships Paving the Path to Success
Kira talks about her college experience
Going to Virginia Tech for art
Starting in Graphic Design
Hanging out with a wide group of friends
Taking the different experiences into business
Relationships that led to a new path
Moving to NY from zero
From Enterprise Rent-A-Car to Este Lauder
Turned off to the corporate world
Going into the nonprofit world
The insights to prioritize learning and growth over a paycheck
Disillusionment with corporate jobs
Keeping the curiosity going till something sticks
The entrepreneurial itch
A word from our sponsor
[16:53 - 25:53] Copywriting for Jasmine Star, and James Wedmore
Kira talks about how she got started into copywriting
Working at a startup
Hired to write copy for friends at first
Encouraged by friends to keep doing copy
Kira’s ascension in the copy world
Finding good clients fast by investing in her brand
Invited to teach at a Mastermind retreat
Getting into the right room and saying yes
The progression to today
Going into partnership
Hosing a podcast together
Creating a community for copywriters
[25:54 - 35:30] Closing Segment
Who you know or What you know?
People are always first
You have to bring something to the table
Success comes from connecting and community
Unlikely relationship that became a path to success
Getting onto podcasts and networking
Example from Mike Kim
ThE RaNdOm RoUnd
How to engage with Kira
Links below
Final words
Tweetable Quotes: “I knew that I wasn’t ready to become an entrepreneur, but I knew that that was finally the direction that I saw myself moving…” - Kira Hug“I think the power of networking and being in the right room; if you can get in that right room with the right clients, it can be such a true game changer.” - Kira HugResources Mentioned:
Copywriter Club Podcast
Copywriter Club Facebook Group
Spooked Podcasts
The Copywriter Club Website
Connect with Kira on Instagram and Twitter. Definitely go and check out https://kirahug.com/ to learn even more.Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people. Jump on over to travischappell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website a travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 15, 2021 • 30min
562: Emma Rose Cohen | Making Sexy Straws and Forks
We’ve all heard of the impact that plastic has on the environment, and while most of us are concerned, few jump into action. Emma Rose Cohen is one such person who spends 98% of my time obsessing over single-use plastic waste and trying to figure out how to eliminate it from our daily lives.Emma is the CEO and Founder of the Final Straw, where her passion for sustainability met radical action by creating innovative and fun alternatives to single-use plastics. She launched Final’s first product, FinalStraw, on Kickstarter with a goal of raising $12,500. In a matter of weeks, the campaign raised $1.89 million and later went on to be featured on ABC’s Shark Tank. Let’s get right into Emma’s story and learn how making sexy straws and forks led her to world-renowned success while fueling her purpose with passion.Things you will learn in this episode: [00:01 - 05:59] Opening Segment
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I introduce today’s guests Emma Rose Cohen
Final Straw
Master from Harvard in sustainability
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Emma gives us some background
High energy as a child
Entrepreneurial from a young age
School life
From partier to pragmatic
[06:00 - 17:23] Instant Kickstarter Success
Emma shares about her time at Harvard
Mentorship that led there
The applicability of a Masters program
Growing passion for sustainability
Humans are the only creatures that create unnatural waste
Figuring out what to do next
Miserable at the lab
Skiing as a passion
Timing, luck, and hard work
Emma talks about the tactics around building the business
Starting on Kickstarter
Test marketing with people first
Building a pre-campaign strategy
Early prototypes
Working with friends to create a product
The instant success
The experience
The moment people say yes
A word from our sponsor
[17:24 - 23:02] Making Sexy Straw and Forks
Emma shares the growth since finding success
Grateful for every sale, but not motivated by money
Doing something innovative
New products
Biggie Straw
Literally, suck anything!
Sustainability can be a fun thing
Agents of change
Releasing the sexy fork and spork
Moving beyond the straw
Small steps towards a huge win
The various experiences that go into it
[23:03 - 29:07] Closing Segment
Who you know or What you know?
Not mutually exclusive
It’s impossible to be successful in business without connections
You can learn more from others
ThE RaNdOm RoUnd
How to engage with Emma
Links below
Final words
Tweetable Quotes: “Humans are the only creatures in the world that create waste, and I think really, it’s just fundamentally a design flaw in both the systems and the products we’re creating.” - Emma Rose Cohen“To have an idea and be excited about it is one thing, but to have the world say YES… it’s like the most beautiful feeling.” - Emma Rose Cohen“Sustainability can be a sexy, fun, sparkly party - and that’s gonna bring a lot more eyeballs than the kind of traditional ‘Sarah McLachlan Peta’ vibe.” - Emma Rose CohenResources Mentioned:
The Aligned Podcast
The Surrender Experiment
Connect with Emma on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Twitter. Be sure to visit https://final.co/ to learn even more.Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people. Jump on over to travischappell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website a travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 11, 2021 • 6min
561: Freestyle Friday | Become a River Tour Guide
Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people. Jump on over to travischapel.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website a travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 10, 2021 • 27min
560: Midweek Mashup | Motivation ft. Trent Shelton, Eric Kapitulik, and Dan Martell
Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people. Jump on over to travischapell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website a travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 8, 2021 • 32min
559: Jarom Sidwell & Bill Issler | The Future of VR Gaming
Today we’re jumping into the world of virtual reality with two of its visionaries. Jarom Sidwell is a Hollywood Visual Effects expert who is known for his work in films like Avengers, The Hobbit, Transformers, among many others and Bill Issler is a software developer who started his work all the way back in the ’80s, building several software applications that have become standards in certain industries. Through networking, they now put their expertise together to become innovators in the VR gaming space. I can’t wait to jump right into the conversation and learn more about their journey into partnership and the future of VR gaming!Things you will learn in this episode: [00:01 - 05:16] Opening Segment
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I introduce today’s guests, Jarom Sidwell and Bill Issler
VR gaming
Experience and work of both guests
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Jarom shares some of his backgrounds
Growing up in Central California
Farming and outdoor adventures
Bill shares some of his backgrounds
Moved from Canada to SoCal
Paper route as a kid
Going after what you want
[05:17 - 16:50] The Venture into VR and Partnership
Bill shares about his venture into Software
Getting into computing in college
Working in an engineering firm
Finding the niche
Jarom talks about his venture into films and VR
First job at Digital Domain
Transformers as the first film
Working with Peter Jackson and other teams
Going into VR
Bill’s path into VR
Using augmented reality within construction
Partnering with someone with their heart in the space
How Bill and Jarom connected
Reaching out through the website
Connecting over VR Ancient Jerusalem
‘What’s next?’
Bill’s and Jarom’s lessons in partnerships
Bill’s journey within Networking
Being open to new possibilities
Having the same vision and focus
A word from our sponsor
[16:51 - 25:42] The Future of VR
Jarom talks about the game itself
Links below
The premise of David vs. Goliath
The moral lesson behind it
The mechanics of the game
Bill talks about his process
Plot, gameplay, and graphics
Bringing it to life
The testing process
Thoughts around the future of VR gaming
Work with Oculus
Scaling down the size
Where VR and AI collide
The storytelling aspect
Bill’s thoughts - thinking deeper
[25:13 - 31:05] Closing Segment
Who you know, or What you know?
Bill - tapping into networks
Jarom - the need for people around you
ThE RaNdOm RoUnd
How to engage with Bill and Jarom
Links below
Final words
Tweetable Quotes: “It’s just amazing how the network continues to go if you’re ready for it… How daring and how adventurous are you in exploring some of those ideas?” - Bill Issler“The whole premise of the game is around you protecting your sheep and your flock… is every sheep precious? To what lengths would you go to save and support those that you love and surround you?” - Jarom Sidwell“As you’re growing your network and building your friendships I think it’s important to know that there’s tons of people with different skills that together can build something better than something better than yourself.” - Jarom SidwellResources Mentioned:
Immersive History
Virtuous VR Gaming
Connect with Jarom on Bill. Be sure to visit https://dvgthegame.com/. Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people. Jump on over to travischappell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website a travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 7, 2021 • 42min
558: Dan Lok | Building Networth from Debt to 8 Figures
Dan Lok is known as “the king of closing,” but his story didn’t always start out that way. As an immigrant from Hong Kong, Dan struggled to learn English and earn money for his family. He began side hustles at a young age leading him to enter debt up to $150,000. After studying with the greats and taking action, Dan became a self-made millionaire at 27, and an 8-figure entrepreneur soon after, leading to worldwide speaking engagements and becoming an author of his most recent book, Unlock It. Let’s dive right into the episode as we learn more about how Dan was able to overcome every obstacle in his way and build his net worth.Things you will learn in this episode: [00:01 - 07:17] Opening Segment
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I introduce today’s guest Dan Lok
Dragon 100
Be sure to check out guestio.com and start booking
Dan gives some background on his story
Born in Hong Kong
Troublemaker as a kid
Immigrated to Vancouver
Going into business out of necessity
Dan talks about the conditions living in Vancouver
The change in living and culture
Starting with no network
[07:18 - 14:04] Moments of Overcoming the Obstacles
Dan talks about his English learning process
Only making English speaking friends
Listening to and watching media
Full immersion
Facing stage fright
Dan shares the experience of his dad going bankrupt
Looking hopelessness in the face
Getting urgent about learning how to make money
Getting into side hustles
Getting into everything possible while doing school
[14:05 - 23:20] The Power of Leveraging Social Proof
From side hustle to full-time business
Failing 13 businesses
Learning copy from a mentor
Learning the gift of persuasion
“The million-dollar year”
Dan talks about the story of making the cassette tape
Borrowing experience from other skilled people
Approaching high worth people and building off that
The cassette tape
Building off of social proof
Dan’s approach
A word from our sponsor
[23:21 - 37:47] Building Your Net Worth
Dan tells a story about a unique phone call
Experiencing harsh rejection
“This will never happen again”
Moving to sales and closing
Learning on the job
Learning business through prospects
Getting into affiliate marketing and online marketing
From mentoring to seminars
Answering the demand for more content
Burning out from the constant teaching
Exploding because social media
Dan’s various companies
Dan’s tips for being a better salesperson
High-ticket closing
Make the prospect the salesperson
“What would you like to do next?”
The Doctor Frame - example
Resources
It’s not about closing
[37:48 - 41:23] Closing Segment
Who you know, or What you know?
Half the formula is who you know, the other is who knows you
ThE RaNdOm RoUnd
How to engage with Dan
Links below
Final words
Tweetable Quotes: “I learned at an early age - You don’t ask, you don’t get…” - Dan Lok“I was speaking and teaching business owners but unlike most, a majority of my revenue comes from DOING what I teach.” - Dan Lok“We don’t sell, we turn the prospect into a salesperson. We let the prospect do most of the speaking… When you say something it means something; when the prospect says something it means everything.” - Dan LokResources Mentioned:
Unlock It
Dragon 100
Free High Ticket Closers Course
The Hard Things About Hard Things
Connect with Dan on Instagram and YouTube. Be sure to visit https://danlok.com/ to learn more. Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people. Jump on over to travischappell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website a travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 5, 2021 • 8min
557: BYN Breakdown | The Sales Process
Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people. Jump on over to travischapell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website a travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments. Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


