

Travis Makes Money
Travis Chappell
You can't save your way to your dream life anymore. The truth is, you’re gonna need to learn to make more money. The Travis Makes Money Podcast is not your typical personal finance show. Rather than shaming you for buying a Starbucks coffee or pressuring you to become a billionaire, we focus on empowering you to make more money so you can enjoy life today while preparing for your future. You don’t have to cut back so much that you miss out on the present, and you don’t need to become the next Jeff Bezos either. Hosted by veteran podcaster Travis Chappell, each daily episode features interviews with regular people just like you – yes, you – who have learned how to make more money in unique and unconventional ways. From turning side hustles into an extra six figures to building massive business empires, these conversations dive into the mindset shifts, hard-earned lessons, and simple strategies that helped these individuals succeed. With over 1,000 podcast episodes under his belt, Travis has developed a unique ability to pull out inspiring stories and practical advice you can apply to your own financial journey that you just won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you’re looking for strategies on side hustles, skill building, investing, building generational wealth, or just motivation to take your next steps, this podcast is your resource. Tune in daily for insights, actionable tips, and inspiration from some of the most successful and interesting money-makers on the planet.
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Jun 6, 2025 • 35min
Make Money with Hair Salons | Ryann Halo
Ryann Halo is a dynamic entrepreneur, salon owner, and business consultant with nearly two decades of experience building and scaling multiple companies across industries like retail, med spas, regenerative wellness, and especially hair salons. From a challenging upbringing to founding Salon Halo—now a multi-location, multi-million dollar business recognized as a Top 200 Salon in North America—Ryann’s journey is a testament to resilience, adaptability, and the power of adding value. Her expertise now extends into consulting and content creation, helping others replicate her success in the brick-and-mortar and online spaces.
On this episode we talk about:
– Ryann’s early entrepreneurial spirit and her first dollar earned selling chocolate door-to-door
– Overcoming personal tragedy and adversity to find her path in the salon industry
– The realities of salon ownership: profit margins, scaling challenges, and the importance of retail
– Leadership lessons—transitioning from practitioner to business owner and developing high-performing teams
– Diversifying income streams through consulting, partnerships, and teaching
Top 3 Takeaways
1. Your income is directly tied to the value you add—whether as an employee, business owner, or consultant.
2. Leadership is the key to scaling any service-based business; investing in your team unlocks growth and profitability.
3. Clarity about your desired lifestyle and business model is essential—don’t climb the wrong mountain chasing someone else’s definition of success.
Notable Quotes
– "Adding value to people around me, whether it be other employees, stylists, or clients, is what turned $25 a day into $100 a day at 15 years old."
– "Your income is directly proportionate to the value that you're bringing to the organization that you work at, or the marketplace that you serve."
– "Don’t pick the title that sounds good. Look at how those people are spending their days before you decide what success is to you."
Connect with Ryann Halo:
https://www.instagram.com/ryann_halo
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Jun 5, 2025 • 36min
Make Money with Credit Card Points and Travel Miles | Julia Menez
Julia Menez is a travel hacking expert, educator, and founder of GeoBreeze Travel. With a background as an actuary, Julia brings a unique analytical approach to maximizing credit card points and airline miles for luxury travel. She’s dedicated her career to teaching entrepreneurs and high-income professionals how to leverage everyday expenses for free flights, hotel stays, and elite perks. Julia’s practical, no-nonsense style and deep industry knowledge make her a standout in the world of points and miles.
On this episode we talk about:
Julia’s journey from actuary to full-time travel hacking entrepreneur
The basics of travel hacking and who should (and shouldn’t) play the points game
How to choose the right credit cards based on your spending habits and business needs
The potential pitfalls and risks of chasing points, and how to avoid them
Real-life examples of maximizing points for luxury travel and upgrades
Top 3 Takeaways
Travel hacking isn’t for everyone: If you can’t pay off your credit cards in full each month, the interest will wipe out any rewards. Discipline is key.
Optimize for simplicity: For business owners with predictable expenses, focus on a simple card strategy that matches your spending profile rather than juggling dozens of cards.
Leverage business expenses: If you’re an entrepreneur, running recurring or high-volume expenses through the right cards can yield significant travel rewards—without extra spending.
Notable Quotes
"If you have to carry a balance, any interest that you have to pay is going to negate the value that you're getting out of your points."
"Real money before points money."
"The internet is an illusion, and what's actually happening is most people just don't have the financial discipline to handle this."
Connect with Julia Menez:
LinkedIn: Julia Menez on LinkedIn
Twitter/X: @geobreezetravel
Instagram: @geobreezetravel
Website: GeoBreeze Travel
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Jun 4, 2025 • 43min
Make Money by Hacking Ethically | Dr. Eric Cole
Dr. Eric Cole is a renowned cybersecurity expert, entrepreneur, public figure, and bestselling author who has spent over three decades shaping the cybersecurity landscape. From starting as a professional hacker for the CIA to serving as the 44th President’s Commissioner on Cybersecurity, Dr. Cole has advised top companies and government agencies on digital security. Known for his pioneering work and business acumen, he’s built and sold multiple tech companies and now leads Secure Anchor Consulting, helping organizations turn cybersecurity into a business enabler. His unique blend of technical expertise and entrepreneurial spirit makes him a leading voice in both cybersecurity and business innovation.
On this episode we talk about:
Dr. Cole’s journey from CIA hacker to cybersecurity entrepreneur
The fundamentals of ethical hacking and making money ethically
How to spot future tech trends and build companies for high-value exits
The state of U.S. cybersecurity laws and why federal regulation is needed
Using AI and data analysis to identify investment opportunities and the future of cryptocurrency
Top 3 Takeaways
Ethics and Execution Matter: Dr. Cole emphasizes that making money ethically is crucial, and rapid execution—making decisions quickly and learning from them—is a key driver of entrepreneurial success.
Spotting Trends Early: Success in tech and business often comes from identifying where the market is heading in 2–3 years, focusing on niche opportunities, and building intellectual property that creates leverage for future exits.
Simplify and Standardize Security: The U.S. lags behind in unified cybersecurity laws, and there’s a major need for simplified, standardized security practices that businesses and individuals can actually implement.
Notable Quotes
“Making money is ethical. Sales and ethical things. So it's how can you use cyber in a good ethical way to make money?”
“Swing at every pitch. There's no striking out in life. The more I swing, the more I execute, the more I'm going to have opportunities, the more I'm going to make money.”
“We need a very simplified model of cybersecurity...something that people can actually implement and we can actually check and verify.”
Connect with Dr. Eric Cole:
https://linktr.ee/drericcole
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Jun 3, 2025 • 32min
Make Money by Embracing Adventure and Entrepreneurship | Bert ter Hart
Bert terHart is a world-renowned adventurer, entrepreneur, and motivational speaker best known for his record-setting solo circumnavigation of the globe using only traditional navigation methods. With a background in technology and a passion for pushing human limits, Bert brings a unique perspective on risk-taking, resilience, and the mindset required to achieve extraordinary goals. His journey is not just about sailing—it's about charting your own course in life and business.
On this episode we talk about:
How Bert planned and executed his solo, non-stop circumnavigation using only a sextant and paper charts
The parallels between adventure sailing and entrepreneurship
Overcoming fear, uncertainty, and setbacks in pursuit of big goals
The importance of preparation, discipline, and adaptability
Bert’s advice for anyone looking to break out of their comfort zone and make money by following their passion
Top 3 Takeaways
Calculated risk is essential: Success comes from embracing risk, but only after thorough preparation and understanding your environment.
Mindset matters: The difference between failure and success often comes down to resilience and adaptability in the face of adversity.
Traditional skills still have value: Sometimes, the “old ways” can offer unique advantages in a modern world—don’t overlook timeless wisdom.
Notable Quotes
“If you’re not willing to risk the unknown, you’ll never discover what you’re truly capable of.”
“Preparation is your best friend—whether you’re crossing an ocean or starting a business.”
“Every setback is an opportunity to learn, adapt, and come back stronger.”
Connect with Bert terHart:
Website: https://bertterhart.com/
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Jun 2, 2025 • 51min
Make Money with Luxury Vacation Home Rentals | Nathan Shew
Nathan Shew joins Travis for an inspiring episode that dives deep into the world of entrepreneurship, resilience, and building a business around what you love. Nathan is a dynamic entrepreneur known for transforming his passion for technology and creative problem-solving into multiple successful ventures. With a background in both tech startups and consulting, Nathan stands out for his practical approach to business and his commitment to helping others break through barriers. His story is a testament to the power of grit, adaptability, and staying true to your vision.
On this episode we talk about:
How Nathan turned his passion for technology into a thriving business
The biggest challenges he faced in the early days—and how he overcame them
Why resilience and adaptability are crucial for entrepreneurs
Building a brand that stands out in a crowded market
Actionable advice for anyone looking to start (or scale) their own business
Top 3 Takeaways
Your passion can be your greatest asset—when paired with discipline and a willingness to learn, it can fuel both innovation and long-term success.
Every entrepreneur faces setbacks; resilience and adaptability are what separate those who thrive from those who stall.
Building a business is about more than just making money; it’s about creating value, building relationships, and staying true to your mission.
Notable Quotes
“If you’re not failing, you’re not pushing hard enough. Every setback is just a setup for your next breakthrough.”
“The best businesses are built on authenticity—people can tell when you genuinely care about what you do.”
“Don’t wait for the perfect moment. Start with what you have, where you are, and keep moving forward.”
Connect with Nathan Shew:
https://www.instagram.com/nizjames/?hl=en
https://manorretreats.com/
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Jun 1, 2025 • 30min
Make Money by Creating Buy-In with Your Team | Dave Garrison
Dave Garrison joins Travis on this episode of the Travis Makes Money Podcast. Dave is a renowned leadership strategist with over 25 years of experience as a CEO, strategic advisor, and independent board member for both public and private companies, including Ameritrade. He is the co-founder of Garrison Growth, a firm dedicated to helping organizations—from startups to major corporations—unlock the full potential of their teams. Dave recently authored The Buy-In Advantage, a book focused on inspiring employees to care deeply and perform at their best. His unique blend of high-level strategic insight and hands-on leadership experience makes him a compelling voice on building successful, people-driven businesses.
On this episode we talk about:
Dave’s first money-making experience as a newspaper delivery boy and the lessons it taught him about persistence and cash flow.
The value of early, high-volume, people-facing jobs in developing communication and life skills.
How parenting styles and financial education at home shape children’s future relationship with money.
Dave’s unconventional career path, including his decision to take a sales job after earning an MBA from Harvard, and what he learned from both experiences.
The mindset shift from “having the answers” to “asking the right questions” as a leader, and why this is crucial for organizational buy-in and growth.
How generational differences (especially Gen Z) and post-pandemic shifts are changing what employees want from work—and what leaders must do to adapt.
Practical frameworks from The Buy-In Advantage for drama-free problem solving and building collective genius within teams.
Top 3 Takeaways
The best leaders don’t just give answers—they ask better questions to develop decision-making muscles in their teams, fostering buy-in and long-term growth.
True organizational success comes from aligning people’s work with a sense of purpose and shared values, not just focusing on the bottom line.
Creating a culture where everyone’s input is valued leads to smarter decisions and greater results than any one leader could achieve alone.
Notable Quotes
“Managers tell and leaders listen. One of the myths of leadership is thinking we have the answer, when in fact our job is to prepare people for change by helping them think.”
“All of us are smarter than any of us. That’s how you get the best thinking—by including everyone in the process.”
“If time and money were unlimited, what would your ideal life look like? My joy—and my success—comes from helping others achieve results they didn’t think were possible.”
Connect with Dave Garrison:
https://garrisongrowth.com/
Book: The Buy-In Advantage (available wherever books are sold)
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May 31, 2025 • 27min
Make Money with Multifamily and Private Equity | Bronson Hill
Bronson Hill is a leading expert in passive income and wealth psychology, known for his ability to break down the habits and strategies of the ultra-wealthy. As the founder and CEO of Bronson Equity and host of the Mailbox Money Show, Bronson has interviewed over 2,500 millionaires, uncovering the mindsets and investment tactics that separate everyday earners from those who achieve true financial freedom. A former medical sales professional, Bronson walked away from a high-paying career to pursue passive income, scaling his wealth 20X in just a few years. He’s a general partner in 2,500 multifamily units worth over $250M and has personally raised over $45M for real estate and private equity deals. Bronson’s unique perspective comes from both his humble beginnings and his relentless focus on mindset, making him a sought-after keynote speaker and author.
On this episode we talk about:
– The mindset shift that helped Bronson 20X his net worth
– Lessons from interviewing over 2,500 millionaires
– Why “wealth-worthiness” is the hidden key to financial success
– How the ultra-wealthy invest differently (and why “alternative assets” aren’t so alternative)
– Actionable strategies to build confidence and take your first steps toward passive income
Top 3 Takeaways
1. Mindset is everything: The right psychology and self-talk are foundational to building wealth. Most people stay broke because they never develop a sense of “wealth-worthiness”—the belief that they deserve and are capable of financial success.
2. Surround yourself with the right people: Who you spend time with determines your financial future. Learning from mentors and modeling the habits of successful investors can accelerate your growth.
3. Take action despite fear: Confidence isn’t about being fearless—it’s about acting in the face of fear. Start small, celebrate wins, and use setbacks as data for growth.
Notable Quotes
“Confidence isn’t something you’re born with—it’s something you build. Small wins, big lessons, and relentless action—love this breakdown.”
“Make yourself valuable to valuable people.”
“Being wealthy is not about having money or not having money. It’s the habits and the person you become.”
Connect with Bronson Hill:
BronsonEquity.com
Instagram: @bronsondavidhill
Mailbox Money Show: Available on all major podcast platforms
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May 30, 2025 • 39min
Make Money with AI Automation | Alexander Harmsen
Alexander Harmsen is a serial tech entrepreneur with a passion for AI, finance, and autonomy. He is the founder of PortfolioPilot.com, an AI-powered financial adviser platform managing over $30 billion in assets. Previously, Alexander founded and sold Iris Automation, contributed to NASA’s Mars helicopter project, and completed the prestigious Y Combinator accelerator. With over $30 million raised in venture capital and a Forbes 30 Under 30 recognition, Alexander’s journey is a masterclass in innovation, resilience, and adapting to new opportunities.
On this episode we talk about:
– Alexander’s first entrepreneurial hustle as a newspaper delivery boy and the lessons learned about persistence and customer service
– The journey from working at cutting-edge startups and NASA to founding Iris Automation
– The regulatory and technical challenges of launching a deep-tech company in the drone industry
– The importance of flexibility and pivoting in entrepreneurship, with real-world examples from Iris Automation and Portfolio Pilot
– How AI is transforming personal finance and why Alexander believes everyone will soon have a network of AI “coaches”
Top 3 Takeaways
1. Persistence and relentless follow-up open doors—whether it’s landing your first job or closing your first contract.
2. Success in entrepreneurship often comes from being willing to pivot, adapt, and even start from scratch when the market demands it.
3. The future of expert advice is personalized AI “coaches” that optimize every aspect of your life, from fitness to finance.
Notable Quotes
– "The only way to be successful is to just not die... your startup only stops once you give up on the idea."
– "Sometimes the packaging is all the difference—what people really want solved might not be what you set out to solve."
– "You need to be willing to pivot and react and change... that's the main key to success."
Connect with Alexander Harmsen:
– LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexanderharmsen
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May 29, 2025 • 27min
Make Money Reviewing Mattresses | Derek Hales
Derek Hales is the founder and editor-in-chief of NapLab, a leading platform for mattress reviews and sleep product testing. With over a decade of experience and more than 410 mattresses tested, Derek has become a trusted authority in the sleep industry. What sets him apart is his commitment to objective, data-driven testing and his ability to distill complex information into accessible, actionable advice for consumers. Derek’s entrepreneurial journey began with humble odd jobs and evolved into building a thriving business that helps people make better sleep decisions.
On this episode we talk about:
– How Derek transitioned from digital marketing to mattress testing and reviews
– The evolution of NapLab from a personal project to a leading review site
– Strategies for building organic traffic and standing out in a crowded content market
– The impact of AI and changing SEO trends on content businesses
– Actionable advice for aspiring entrepreneurs looking to start review-based businesses
Top 3 Takeaways
1. Hyperfocus on one niche allows small creators to compete with large publishers—become the definitive source for your chosen category.
2. High-quality, in-depth, and authentic content is essential to gain trust and organic traffic in competitive markets.
3. Monetization through referral links works best in high-ticket categories, but creators should consider multiple revenue streams based on their niche.
Notable Quotes
– "Be a master of one thing as opposed to jack of all trades. We want to make sure that there is no doubt that we are the definitive, singular, ultimate source for all things mattresses."
– "If you are someone doing reviews, doing tests, creating this type of content on the internet, you have to keep up with that continual improvement in quality."
– "Take the things that you know, package them into a format that is accessible and in-depth and authentic and understandable for your readers and viewers, and present that."
Check Out Derek Hales' Work:
Website: naplab.com
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May 28, 2025 • 28min
Make Money by Diversifying: From the Navy to Franchises with Marcus Musa Norman
Marcus Musa Norman is a dynamic serial entrepreneur, podcast host, and U.S. Navy veteran who brings a unique blend of discipline, innovation, and passion to every venture he touches. Hailing from St. Croix in the Caribbean and now based in Virginia Beach, Marcus is the co-owner and operations manager of Lifeologie Counseling Hampton Roads, a rapidly growing mental health franchise. He is also the voice behind the Gentleman Style Podcast, where he interviews experts on unconventional paths to wealth and personal growth. With a background that spans real estate, cannabis dispensaries, and ATM businesses, Marcus’s journey from military service to business leadership offers invaluable lessons for aspiring entrepreneurs147.
On this episode we talk about:
– How Marcus made his first dollar as a 10-year-old grocery store bagger and his most recent dollar as a mental health franchise owner
– The transition from starting businesses from scratch to buying into a franchise model
– The unique challenges and opportunities in the mental health industry, including scaling a new franchise and expanding into prescription management
– Marcus’s diverse entrepreneurial ventures, including real estate, ATM portfolios, and cannabis dispensaries with cutting-edge technology
– The power of podcasting as a platform for learning, networking, and uncovering alternative investment strategies
Top 3 Takeaways
1. Diversify your income streams: Marcus’s journey shows that building wealth often means exploring multiple business models—from real estate and cannabis to mental health franchises—rather than relying solely on traditional investments.
2. Leverage your background and network: Skills honed in the military, such as leadership and adaptability, can be powerful assets in entrepreneurship. Strategic networking—like connecting with franchise brokers—can open doors to new opportunities.
3. Education and intentionality are key: Whether investing in alternative assets or starting a business, continuous learning and a clear plan are essential. Don’t just avoid 401(k)s or traditional paths—educate yourself and act with purpose.
Notable Quotes
“If you help enough people, people will pay you for it.”
“The money is better served in our hands as long as we educate ourselves and become more financially literate.”
“Sink your teeth into something that you’re passionate about. At the end of the day, it’s still going to rise and fall based on your ability to make it rise or fall.”
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