Global Roaming with Geraldine Doogue and Hamish Macdonald

In this discussion, Peter Malinauskas, the Premier of South Australia since March 2022, dives into the AUKUS deal's profound impacts on his state. He emphasizes the massive potential for job creation, estimating 20,000 new roles from the program. The conversation also tackles the complex challenges of nuclear waste management, economic viability of civil nuclear power, and the crucial need for skilled labor. Malinauskas advocates for cohesive national leadership to harness AUKUS’s benefits while ensuring community support and strategic security.

Gareth Evans, former Australian Foreign Minister, and Maria Rost Rublee, an expert in international security and nuclear politics, dive into the AUKUS alliance's implications. They discuss Australia’s first acquisition of conventionally armed nuclear-powered submarines and the regional anxieties this generates. The conversation highlights the contentious nuclear waste management challenges and the importance of community engagement. They also examine how Southeast Asian nations perceive AUKUS, reflecting on Australia's balancing act amidst U.S.-China tensions.

Sam Roggeveen, an expert on international security from the Lowy Institute and critic of AUKUS, fears Australia's sovereignty is at stake. Former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull shares insights on dealing with U.S. expectations during his tenure. Deputy Prime Minister Richard Marles argues for the strategic benefits of AUKUS. They discuss the potential risks of over-reliance on U.S. military operations and the financial implications of contributing nuclear submarines to regional defense, alongside Australia's need for a more independent security strategy.

Vice Admiral Mark Hammond, Chief of the Royal Australian Navy, and Hugh Jeffrey, Deputy Secretary at the Department of Defence, delve into the intricate dynamics of the AUKUS alliance. They discuss how China's rapid military expansion influences Australia's defense strategy. The conversation highlights the importance of nuclear-powered submarines and advanced military technology under AUKUS. They also explore the geopolitical implications of maritime dependencies and the significance of naval diplomacy in maintaining regional stability.

Jennifer Parker, an expert associate at the National Security College ANU and former Royal Australian Navy officer, dives deep into the AUKUS initiative. She discusses the ambitious plans for Australia to develop nuclear submarines, tackling the daunting financial and workforce issues involved. With costs projected between $53 to $63 billion, the talk highlights the training needs and political will required for success. They also explore the technological leaps this program promises, including stealth capabilities and future innovations like hypersonic missiles.

Andrew Fowler, an investigative journalist and author of the award-winning book "Nuked: The Submarine Fiasco that Sank Australia’s Sovereignty," dives into the AUKUS partnership's strategic implications. He reveals the hidden motivations behind Australia going nuclear and discusses the significant political fallout. Fowler sheds light on the one-sided submarine deal and the growing calls for transparency from Australians. The podcast also explores the complexities of nuclear technology negotiations and the essential role of defense interoperability in the Indo-Pacific.

2024 has been an extraordinary year in terms of global affairs. And as we try to wind down, events internationally have been ramping up.Global Roaming's inaugural year has been packed, and we thank our audience for being so engaged. This episode we highlight some of those moments and look back at what an incredible year it's been around the world.GET IN TOUCH: We'd love to hear from you! Email us at global.roaming@abc.net.au

A short bonus episode where Geraldine and Hamish discuss the shock fall of Damascus, and the rest of Syria, to opposition group Hayat Tahir al-Sham. The hardline Sunni Islamic group has its roots in Al Qaeda but has refined its image to be more moderate. With Syrian president Bashar al-Assad and family getting asylum in Russia, Syrians around the world are celebrating. But what happens next?RECOMMENDATIONS:Hamish: New Yorker: How Syria became the Middle East's drug dealerGeraldine:  Firas Maksad with the Middle East InstituteGET IN TOUCH: We'd love to hear from you! Email us at global.roaming@abc.net.au

When Hamish visited Finland he met up with Finland's Minister of Education Anders Adlercreutz - although unfortunately not in a sauna.But they do discuss the importance of saunas in keeping Finnish society egalitarian. And of course its focus on public education. Finland takes a holistic approach that gives teachers freedom and flexibility to teach multiple subjects together - a lesson might include maths, geography and art. Schools also focus on creativity, play and practical skills but don't test until the final years. And now the curriculum includes lessons on decoding fake news and assessing online sources for reliability.RECOMMENDATIONS:When Anders Adlercreutz’s cello performance of a patriotic Ukrainian song was widely shared it attracted backlash from Russian officials.GET IN TOUCH: We'd love to hear from you! Email us at global.roaming@abc.net.au

Why is Germany in a bit of a funk? How did the superstar of Europe go so far off the rails - even the German trains aren't running on time.Germany is governed by a three party centre-left coalition that's in disarray, a snap election has been called for February, and polls show the main ruling SPD party is set to suffer a big loss. Meanwhile, the far-right Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) is the second most popular party.Tobias Cremer is a German member of the European Parliament and he’s with the SPD party. But he was only elected a few months back so still has several years in parliament, at least. Tobias also has an interesting background researching the relationship between religion, secularisation and the rise of right-wing identity politics throughout western societies.RECOMMENDATIONS:Geraldine:  The Granddaughter By Bernhard SchlinkHamish:  The Quiet German feature in The New Yorker GET IN TOUCH: We'd love to hear from you! Email us at global.roaming@abc.net.au