

The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast
George Couros
I am a learner, author, speaker, and sometimes I make podcasts talking about any and all of these things. One day, I will rap in my podcasts officially making me a SoundCloud rapper.
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Jun 30, 2025 • 11min
June 2025 Highlights from the #InnovatorsMindset #Podcast
In this episode of The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast, host George Couros welcomes thought leaders in education—Dr. Catlin Tucker, Brett Vogelsinger, and Dale Alexander—for powerful conversations about instructional practices, writing across the curriculum, and financial literacy. Each guest offers insights that educators, leaders, and lifelong learners won’t want to miss.
Guest Segments
Dr. Catlin Tucker – Elevating Tier 1 Instruction
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Dr. Catlin Tucker breaks down Tier 1 supports within the Multi-Tiered System of Support (MTSS) and explains how Tier 2 and Tier 3 differ. She emphasizes the importance of universal learning and how teachers can strategically design whole group vs. small group instruction using station rotation models.
Key terms: Tier 1 instruction, MTSS, station rotation, instructional design
Explore how to elevate Tier 1 learning and enhance student engagement across content areas.
Brett Vogelsinger – Writing as a Process, Not Just a Product
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English teacher and author Brett Vogelsinger joins to explore how writing fosters critical thinking and creativity across all disciplines. He discusses his book Artful AI in Writing Instruction, offering guidance on integrating AI thoughtfully while still prioritizing the messiness and reflection inherent in the writing process.
Key terms: writing across the curriculum, AI in education, reflective learning, writing instruction
Discover tips for teaching writing in every subject and check out Vogelsinger’s book for practical AI integration strategies.
Dale Alexander – “Make 70 Your 100” Rule & Financial Literacy
Clip coming soon
Motivational speaker Dale Alexander shares his signature “70% Rule” for building financial freedom early in life. This segment covers practical money tips from his book The Talk (About Money)—ideal for students, young professionals, and families alike.
Key terms: financial literacy, budgeting tips, youth finance, the 70% rule
Learn how to build healthy money habits and explore Alexander’s full episode for actionable strategies and resources.
Intro
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Description & Time Codes:
0:00 Intro with George Couros
TBD Intro Music
TBD Dr. Catlin Tucker
TBD Brett Vogelsinger
TBD Dale Alexander
Dr. Catlin Tucker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rV8bh0Bi0A
In this clip from The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast, Dr. Catlin Tucker defines tier 1 supports and explains what we are considering when we are thinking about tier 1 in relation to the multi-tiered system of support. Dr. Tucker and George Couros reflect on what it means when we are providing tier 1 and how that relates to being the core, or the universal, learning in a classroom. Dr. Tucker also elaborates on what tier 2 and tier 3 are and how they differ from tier 1. As Dr. Tucker continues sharing her thinking, she shares how this is connected to station rotations. When Dr. Tucker refers to “elevating tier 1 instruction,” she encourages teachers to really consider what they are planning to introduce in whole group and what they will introduce in small group. Be sure to check out this clip and then the full episode for even more great ideas from Dr. Tucker!
Brett Vogelsinger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzTpMQYxCoE
In this clip from The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast, George Couros and Brett Vogelsinger reflect on the importance of the writing process in all subject areas, while advocating for an emphasis on the development and messiness of writing, rather than just the final product. Vogelsinger and Couros also share personal reflections that illustrate how writing can be a tool for thought development and learning across various content areas and professions, not just writing. Vogelsinger’s book, Artful AI in Writing Instruction, offers insights and principles for teachers of any subject while providing methods to help both students and teachers navigate the writing process without fully relying on AI. Be sure to check the links below to grab a copy of Vogelsinger’s new book and check out the full episode of The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast for even more great AI reflections.
Dale Alexander
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In this clip of The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast, Dale Alexander and George Couros review the 70% rule, and Alexander shares just what he means when he talks about making “70 your 100.” If you watch or listen to this clip after you have already started your first job and did not consider making your 70 your 100, be sure to watch the full episode to hear what Alexander suggests you do next. This podcast with Alexander is a great episode for all ages because it shares some powerful financial strategies based on the book, ‘The Talk (About Money).’ Be sure to check the links below for even more great resources from Alexander, including his website and YouTube channel.

Jun 29, 2025 • 25min
Teaching Teens About Money: Dale Alexander’s 70-20-10 Rule for Financial Success - The #InnovatorsMindset
In this episode of The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast, George Couros sits down with financial literacy advocate and author Dale Alexander to explore how we can better teach students and young adults about managing money. Dale shares his powerful 70-20-10 principle—spend 70%, invest 20%, and give 10%—and explains how starting financial education early can lead to lifelong financial success.
They discuss practical investing tips, including mutual funds, the power of consistent savings, and why most adults say, “I wish I learned this when I was 18.” Whether you're an educator, parent, or young adult, this conversation provides actionable strategies to help anyone build a strong financial foundation.
👉 Learn more at: https://www.thetalkaboutmoney.com/
📺 Subscribe to Dale on YouTube: @thetalkaboutmoneydalealexander
📸 Follow Dale on Instagram: @thetalkaboutmoney
Key Topics:
Financial literacy for students
Dale Alexander’s 70-20-10 money rule
Teaching kids and teens how to manage money
Smart investing for beginners
How to build wealth early
Why budgeting matters for young adults
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Jun 22, 2025 • 21min
Writing with AI, Not Replacing It – A Human-Centered Approach with Brett Vogelsinger - S6EP25
In this thought-provoking episode of The Innovator's Mindset Podcast, George Couros sits down with Brett Vogelsinger—veteran English teacher and author of the upcoming book Artful AI in Writing Instruction: A Human-Centered Approach to Using Artificial Intelligence in Grades 6–12.
Together, they explore how AI can support rather than supplant the writing process, emphasizing the importance of preserving student voice, creativity, and curiosity. Vogelsinger shares powerful classroom examples, like using AI to spark deeper character analysis or improve first drafts, always returning the focus to the human element behind the writing.
This conversation is a must-listen for educators across all subjects who want to:
Thoughtfully integrate AI into student writing
Design writing assignments that feel relevant and personal
Empower students to critique and improve upon AI outputs
Balance innovation with human connection and creativity
🧠 Whether you're tech-savvy or just starting your AI journey, this episode offers practical strategies and inspiring insights to navigate the future of education with intention and purpose.
✨ Notable Quotes from Brett Vogelsinger:
🗨️ “...reconsider all of our writing assignments to see if they make sense... pull in things that are personal…”
🗨️ “You have to feel that writing has value and merit…”
🗨️ “Curiosity helps me to understand that I am new at this and therefore I am going to try some things that won’t work…”
🔗 Resources & Links
📘 Artful AI in Writing Instruction – Buy the Book
🐦 Brett Vogelsinger on X – @theVogelman
📸 Brett Vogelsinger on Instagram – @thevogelman
📝 George Couros' Blog – When AI Assists, But Humanity Speaks
📄 Brett Vogelsinger's Article – Inviting AI with Curiosity
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Please share your thoughts with us on Twitter or Instagram at #InnovatorsMindset.
More at georgecouros.com
George Couros on Twitter: https://twitter.com/gcouros
George Couros on Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros
George Couros on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/
George Couros on LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519
For the full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros
The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d
What Makes a Great Principal - https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?linkCode=ssc&tag=onamzgeorge0f-20&creativeASIN=1948334739&asc_item-id=amzn1.ideas.2SBTFVTBT0S6X&ref_=aip_sf_list_spv_ofs_mixed_d_asin
Because of a Teacher - https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d
Because of a Teacher 2 -
https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20&linkCode=ssc&creativeASIN=194833450X&asc_item-id=amzn1.ideas.2SBTFVTBT0S6X
Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d
Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/

Jun 19, 2025 • 21min
The Innovator’s Mindset at 10: Empowering Educators, Inspiring Creativity, and Leading Change
In this special episode of The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast, George Couros celebrates the 10-year anniversary of his best-selling book, The Innovator’s Mindset. Answering thoughtful questions from a book study group in India, George shares timeless ideas about innovation in education and what it takes to lead in a world that never stops changing.
You’ll learn why innovation is about creating new and better ways to serve learners, not just using new tools. George unpacks the importance of balancing traditional foundations with aspirational goals and highlights how educators can model risk-taking, resilience, and purposeful growth.
Key Topics in This Episode:
What innovation really means in today’s schools
How to foster creativity and deep learning in constrained systems
Why resilience is more important than failure
How educators can lead with authenticity and adaptability
Ways to build learner-driven, evidence-informed classroom culture
Notable Quotes:
“Innovation is not about using technology; it is about creating something new and better.”
“You cannot expect others to take risks if they never see you taking any yourself.”
“Everything you want to happen in your school already exists; the challenge is helping people bring it to the surface.”
“If a strategy isn’t working, we don’t abandon the student; we adjust and iterate to meet their needs.”
📘 Grab your copy of The Innovator’s Mindset:
Paperback / Kindle on Amazon
More books and resources from George Couros
Whether you're a new teacher, a veteran leader, or somewhere in between, this episode offers practical insights and inspiration to help you create a culture of innovation in your school.

Jun 15, 2025 • 19min
How Station Rotation Elevates Tier 1 Instruction | Dr. Catlin Tucker on UDL & MTSS S6EP24
In this episode of The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast, George Couros is joined by acclaimed educator and author Dr. Catlin Tucker to dive into her latest book, The Station Rotation Model and UDL: Elevate Tier 1 Instruction and Cultivate Learner Agency.
Dr. Tucker shares powerful strategies on how to elevate Tier 1 instruction through intentional planning using the station rotation model. Learn how differentiating between whole-group and small-group instruction can lead to more inclusive, student-centered classrooms.
This episode also explores how Universal Design for Learning (UDL) and a Multi-Tiered System of Support (MTSS) framework work hand-in-hand to better support all learners. Dr. Tucker discusses the importance of using data-driven design to implement effective station rotations and cultivate student agency.
Perfect for educators, instructional coaches, and school leaders looking to improve classroom engagement and support diverse learner needs.
🔗 Explore More from Dr. Catlin Tucker:
🌐 Website: https://catlintucker.com/
📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/catlintucker/?hl=en
🐦 X (Twitter): https://x.com/catlin_tucker?lang=en

Jun 12, 2025 • 17min
Why People Resist Change (And 3 Ways to Inspire It in Education and Beyond) - George Couros
In this episode of The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast, George Couros explores why people resist change—even when it’s clearly for the better—and offers three practical strategies to foster emotional connections that lead to meaningful transformation.
Drawing on stories from education and beyond (including the infamous “New Coke” story), George shares actionable ideas for leaders, educators, and changemakers to:
Build a shared vision that empowers people through authorship.
Co-create stories that make change personal and meaningful.
Amplify what’s already working to create momentum from within.
Whether you're leading change in a school, organization, or community, this episode will equip you to move past resistance and build stronger emotional engagement.
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Jun 12, 2025 • 17min
Why Educators Must Prioritize Real Breaks: 3 Ways to Recharge for a Better You - George Couros
In this heartfelt episode of The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast, George Couros reflects on the critical importance of taking intentional breaks, setting healthy boundaries, and putting your own well-being first. With the school year winding down across North America—and winter breaks beginning in Australia and New Zealand—Couros offers a powerful reminder: taking time off is not indulgent, it’s essential.
Drawing from both personal experience and real educator challenges, he shares three big ideas to help teachers and leaders head into their breaks with purpose:
It's okay (and necessary) to need a break – Guilt-free rest is a necessity, not a luxury.
Learn to say no – Every “yes” is a “no” to something else, including your own well-being.
Take care of yourself – Prioritize your mental, physical, and emotional recovery intentionally.
Whether you're struggling with burnout, finding it hard to disconnect, or simply need affirmation that rest is productive, this episode—and the honest newsletter behind it—offer practical strategies and thoughtful encouragement to help you recharge fully.
📰 Read the full newsletter here:
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Learn how taking care of yourself helps you better serve others—at school, at home, and in your community.

Jun 8, 2025 • 19min
Leading with Purpose: Dr. Susan Leach on PLCs, AI, and Transformational Leadership - Season 6 EP22
In this inspiring episode of The Innovator's Mindset Podcast, George Couros chats with Dr. Susan Leach, superintendent of Riverview School District in Washington. Dr. Leach shares her powerful journey from stay-at-home mom to district leader, opening up about pivotal career moments, mentorship, and what it truly means to lead with purpose.
The conversation delves into effective leadership strategies, including how Dr. Leach implemented Professional Learning Communities (PLCs) district-wide and the importance of collaboration in the execution process. She also highlights a unique initiative: a student-led AI advisory committee that’s shaping district policy and professional development!
You’ll also hear personal stories, such as how she overcame her fear of scuba diving, and why building inclusive systems is crucial to achieving sustainable change in education. The episode concludes with a preview of George’s upcoming keynote address for Riverview’s staff and community.
👉 Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more conversations on leadership, innovation, and the future of education!
🔗 Connect with Dr. Susan Leach:
X (Twitter): https://x.com/RiverviewSup
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rsd407_sup/
RSD Website: https://www.rsd407.org/
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George Couros – Digital Presence
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Please share your thoughts with us on Twitter or Instagram at #InnovatorsMindset.
More at georgecouros.com
George Couros on Twitter: https://twitter.com/gcouros
George Couros on Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros
George Couros on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/
George Couros on LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519
For the full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros
The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d
What Makes a Great Principal - https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?linkCode=ssc&tag=onamzgeorge0f-20&creativeASIN=1948334739&asc_item-id=amzn1.ideas.2SBTFVTBT0S6X&ref_=aip_sf_list_spv_ofs_mixed_d_asin
Because of a Teacher - https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d
Because of a Teacher 2 -
https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20&linkCode=ssc&creativeASIN=194833450X&asc_item-id=amzn1.ideas.2SBTFVTBT0S6X
Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d
Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/

Jun 5, 2025 • 22min
How I Lost 120 Pounds & Changed My Life: Health, Confidence & Lessons in Self-Leadership
In this powerful solo episode of The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast, George Couros shares his personal transformation story—losing over 120 pounds and keeping it off for four years. But this journey wasn’t just about the physical—it reshaped his mental health, deepened his empathy, and helped him build lasting confidence.
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George opens up about how his health journey started during the COVID-19 pandemic, motivated by his desire to be present and healthy for his children. From struggling with back pain to running, swimming, and daily pushups, he reveals the mindset shifts that helped him maintain this transformation, not with quick fixes, but through sustainable, long-term habits.
💡 Key takeaways from this episode:
How physical health improves mental wellness (anxiety, depression, clarity)
Why sustainable change beats fad diets
The connection between discipline, confidence, and empathy
How showing up daily builds long-term transformation
Why self-care is a selfless act, especially for parents and leaders
Whether you're on your own health journey, looking for motivation, or seeking a deeper understanding of how personal growth impacts professional life, this honest and uplifting story will inspire you.
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👇 Have your own story of transformation? Share in the comments!
#GeorgeCouros #WeightLossJourney #PersonalGrowth #MentalHealthMatters #Confidence #Empathy #InnovatorsMindset #SelfLeadership #HealthTransformation #ParentMotivation #Discipline #WellnessJourney

Jun 2, 2025 • 16min
Student Voice, Innovation in Schools, and May 2025 Podcast Highlights | The Innovator’s Mindset
Hopes for Schools Book - http://tiny.cc/HopesForSchool
In this May 2025 highlight episode of The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast, George Couros reflects on powerful conversations around student voice, innovation in education, and creating impactful school experiences. Couros shares a personal reflection from Hopes for School, co-authored by Jennifer Casa-Todd and student Karen Phan, raising the provocative question: “Do we only support student voice when we agree with it?” Tune in to hear George’s thoughts on embracing student agency, navigating constraints, and how to lead with intention inside today’s schools. Plus, catch highlights from inspiring guests featured in May!
Description & Time Codes:
0:00 Intro with George Couros
3:54 Intro Music
4:03 Dr. Paul Romanelli
8:22 Grace McCallum
11:37 Dr. Rick Surrency
16:20 Closing
Dr. Paul Romanelli
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z1kOLN2We0
In this clip from The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast with Dr. Paul Romanelli, Dr. Romanelli summarizes his district’s AI vision statement and reflects on how they started this conversation with a parent night. Couros and Dr. Romanelli talk about how they are utilizing AI to develop areas of growth. The two reflect on how there is a conversational aspect to using AI that a Google search cannot provide - the opportunity to have a back-and-forth is what is valuable about AI. In this clip, you will hear details about how a school district developed their AI vision statement, what made it successful, and how their vision still allows for AI usage without losing the human component. Be sure to watch or listen to the full episode to learn more about how Dr. Romanelli developed the AI vision statement and what impact it has on the learners being served.
Grace McCallum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RpVc1DnJM0
In this clip from The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast with Grace McCallum, George Couros asks McCallum about the value in creating new spaces and what opportunities that new space brings. McCallum shares how her school site, Branksome, has been very conscious of what new opportunities the building has to bring and how those opportunities rely on creating innovative programs and practices. Using the space for innovative opportunities that address the known skills gap while also updating teaching and learning to build learners who are, as McCallum shares, “innovative thinkers who can solve complex challenges.” McCallum also reflects on how industries can share their problems of practice and which creates learning opportunities beyond the building. Be sure to watch the full episode with McCallum for even more great insights!
Dr. Rick Surrency
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNDlByipUQ8
In this clip of The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast, Dr. Rick Surrency reflects on his 47-year career in education as he passionately discusses systems in place for making education directly relevant to students' futures. Dr. Surrency explains the Putnam School District's impressive progress, focusing on how they have been elevating graduation rates. This clip highlights their innovative approach, and Dr. Surrency emphasizes the successful integration of problem-solving and collaboration throughout the curriculum.
At the center of these achievements is the 'Portrait of a Graduate' initiative, as shared by Dr. Surrency, which was created in collaboration with the community. This framework ensures students are equipped with the skills and knowledge needed to thrive in the local job market.
For even more great ideas, be sure to check out the full episode of the Innovator’s Mindset Podcast with Dr. Rick Surrency!


