
Law of Code
Discussions with regulators, top lawyers and entrepreneurs about the legal framework for blockchain technology. We look at international regulations, trends, and jurisprudence impacting crypto and its related parts.
Latest episodes

Oct 10, 2023 • 59min
#118 - Crypto Taxes, NFT Settlements and Decentralization with Zach Rosenberg
Zach Rosenberg (@MeatEsq) is an attorney and principal at Rosehill Legal, a boutique transactional firm assisting early-stage founders, largely in the crypto space, with structuring, funding, building, and deploying products and networks.
He previously worked as an M&A Tax Director at PWC where he spent eight years advising large private equity firms and public company clients on large acquisitions, divestitures, and restructuring transactions.
You can connect with Zach via email at zach@rosehill.legal.
Disclaimer: Jacob Robinson and his guests are not your lawyer. Nothing herein or mentioned on the Law of Code podcast should be construed as legal advice. The material published is intended for informational, educational, and entertainment purposes only. Please seek the advice of counsel, and do not apply any of the generalized material to your individual facts or circumstances without speaking to an attorney.

Oct 2, 2023 • 58min
#117 - Ryne Miller on the CFTC's DeFi Settlements and the history of Gary Gensler
Ryne Miller is the founder and managing partner of Miller Strategic Partners LLP, a law firm specializing in:
1. Regulatory advice and investigations counsel for the traditional trading and markets industry;
2. Regulatory and strategic advice for digital asset and blockchain companies; and
3. Crisis and incident response management.
Ryne was previously General Counsel at FTX US, a Partner at Sullivan & Cromwell and Legal Counsel to Chairman Gary Gensler while at the CFTC, during the CFTC’s Dodd Frank rule-writing program.
Disclaimer: Jacob Robinson and his guests are not your lawyer. Nothing herein or mentioned on the Law of Code podcast should be construed as legal advice. The material published is intended for informational, educational, and entertainment purposes only. Please seek the advice of counsel, and do not apply any of the generalized material to your individual facts or circumstances without speaking to an attorney.

Sep 29, 2023 • 59min
#116 - Discussing Coinbase's L2 (Base) and FriendTech with Jolie Yang
Former legal partner to Coinbase's Web3 initiatives, Jolie Yang discusses topics such as Coinbase's IPO, building Base, potential token for Base, how Base works, and decentralization for a project incubated by a centralized institution.

Sep 11, 2023 • 56min
#115 - Challenging Patents Impacting DeFi with Amanda Tuminelli of the DeFi Education Fund
Amanda Tuminelli (@amandatums) is chief legal officer for the Defi Education Fund, where she leads the organization’s impact litigation and policy efforts. She was previously an attorney at Kobre & Kim and Dechert LLP, and served as a Judicial Law Clerk for the Eastern District of New York.
Show highlights:
[1:00] DeFi Education Fund's petition to challenge a patent impacting DeFi
[12:00] Amanda's introduction to crypto
[21:00] Her role as Chief Legal Officer of the DeFi Education Fund
[25:00] SEC’s proposed rulemaking to amend existing rules regarding Alternative Trading Systems
[32:00] Kirschner v. JP Morgan Chase Bank, N.A
[39:00] Thoughts on the Financial Innovation and Technology for the 21st Century Act & the Blockchain Regulatory Certainty Act
[47:00] Ripple Decision
& much more.
Disclaimer: Jacob Robinson and his guests are not your lawyer. Nothing herein or mentioned on the Law of Code podcast should be construed as legal advice. The material published is intended for informational, educational, and entertainment purposes only. Please seek the advice of counsel, and do not apply any of the generalized material to your individual facts or circumstances without speaking to an attorney.

Sep 7, 2023 • 42min
#114 - CFTC Regulation of Crypto with Michael Frisch
Michael Frisch is a partner at Croke Fairchild Morgan & Beres where he leads the firm’s Government Litigation and Investigations Practice. Mike previously worked at the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC), where he brought one of the CFTC’s first enforcement actions involving cryptocurrency — CFTC v. Bitfinex — and was part of the team responsible for the CFTC’s action against Tether in 2021.
Show highlights:
[1:30] Mike's introduction to crypto
[3:00] The history of the CFTC's rules around crypto
[6:00] Masterclass on the CFTC
[13:00] Working on CFTC v. Bitfinex
[20:00] Coinbase's FCM registration
[24:00] FTX and the CFTC
& much more.
Disclaimer: Jacob Robinson and his guests are not your lawyer. Nothing herein or mentioned on the Law of Code podcast should be construed as legal advice. The material published is intended for informational, educational, and entertainment purposes only. Please seek the advice of counsel, and do not apply any of the generalized material to your individual facts or circumstances without speaking to an attorney.

Sep 4, 2023 • 45min
#113 - Decentralized Dispute Resolution with Mark Cianci of Ropes & Gray
Mark Cianci is Counsel at Ropes & Gray, where he represents hedge funds, private equity firms and their portfolio companies, and clients in other industries in complex commercial litigation, cryptocurrency litigation, qui tam actions, bankruptcy litigation, and government investigation and enforcement matters. Mark also counsels clients in the blockchain and cryptocurrency space on a variety of regulatory considerations, including compliance with securities laws.
Show highlights:
[1:30] Mark's introduction to crypto
[3:00] How dispute resolution has evolved
[9:00] The future of decentralized justice
[18:00] Benefits of blockchains for decentralized dispute resolution
[31:00] Commercial ADR
[36:00] Interesting crypto projects
& much more.
Disclaimer: Jacob Robinson and his guests are not your lawyer. Nothing herein or mentioned on the Law of Code podcast should be construed as legal advice. The material published is intended for informational, educational, and entertainment purposes only. Please seek the advice of counsel, and do not apply any of the generalized material to your individual facts or circumstances without speaking to an attorney.

Aug 28, 2023 • 47min
#112 - India's Crypto Law Regime with Ashish Chandra of CoinSwitch
Ashish Chandra is the General Counsel of CoinSwitch, India's largest crypto platform pivoting into a multi-asset wealth-tech superapp. With over 22 years of experience in the tech industry, Ashish also led the legal and regulatory affairs of WhatsApp for India. He helped build the e-commerce and fintech/payments business of Facebook, Instagram & WhatsApp in India.
Show highlights:
[1:30] How crypto regulation has evolved in India
[8:00] India's landmark Supreme Court decision
[13:00] Tax on crypto in India
[17:00] Lobbying efforts in India
[24:00] Most active crypto regulators in India
[27:30] His role as GC of CoinSwitch
& much more.
Disclaimer: Jacob Robinson and his guests are not your lawyer. Nothing herein or mentioned on the Law of Code podcast should be construed as legal advice. The material published is intended for informational, educational, and entertainment purposes only. Please seek the advice of counsel, and do not apply any of the generalized material to your individual facts or circumstances without speaking to an attorney.

Aug 14, 2023 • 1h 4min
#111 - Ross Campbell on ERC 1155 and Legal Engineering at Kali DAO + Nani.
Ross Campbell (@z0r0zzz) is a legal engineer and co-founder of KaliDAO, in addition to being a corporate attorney. Ross is also working on NANI, a protocol mixing AI and crypto and is a founder of LexDAO.
Previous episodes with Ross:
1. #5 - Ross Campbell: Legal engineering, Bar Association DAOs, use cases for oracles, and much, much more
2. #30 - Ross Campbell: Legal Engineering and Kali DAO
Disclaimer: Jacob Robinson and his guests are not your lawyer. Nothing herein or mentioned on the Law of Code podcast should be construed as legal advice. The material published is intended for informational, educational, and entertainment purposes only. Please seek the advice of counsel, and do not apply any of the generalized material to your individual facts or circumstances without speaking to an attorney.

Jul 30, 2023 • 52min
#109 - Stephen Palley on the Evolution of Crypto Law, Insurance, Dumpsters and AI.
Stephen Palley (@stephendpalley) is a litigation partner and co-chair of Brown Rudnick’s Digital Commerce group. Stephen is a seasoned litigator with over 20 years of extensive courtroom experience litigating and trying complex commercial matters. Stephen has written extensively and been quoted widely on legal issues arising from the use of Blockchain technology, with appearances in both print and television media. For more on Stephen's background, listen to episode 28 of Law of Code: #28 - Stephen Palley: Crypto regulation, building a team, and defining decentralization.
Show highlights:
[2:30] Analogies in crypto: Smart contracts and dumpsters.
[14:00] Intangible scarcity: Why blockchain's enable scarce, intangible assets.
[18:30] Licensing regimes: Future of front-ends and developers.
[26:30] Evolution of crypto law: Has it aligned with Palley's expectations?
[31:45] Insurance and digital assets: Parametric insurance, oracles and blockchain technology.
& much more.
Disclaimer: Jacob Robinson and his guests are not your lawyer. Nothing herein or mentioned on the Law of Code podcast should be construed as legal advice. The material published is intended for informational, educational, and entertainment purposes only. Please seek the advice of counsel, and do not apply any of the generalized material to your individual facts or circumstances without speaking to an attorney.

Jul 26, 2023 • 31min
#108 - The Solana Foundation's Amira Valliani on Web 3 Policy
Amira Valliani (@amiravalliani) is Policy Lead at the Solana Foundation. She previously built and sold a creator economy company and served as an advisor at the White House and State Department. Note that this episode was recorded prior to the Ripple Labs decision.
Show highlights:
[3:00] Policy work at Solana Foundation
[7:00] Change in policy
[10:30] Challenges and stories of building in Web3
[24:00] Amira's role at the White House
[29:00] Building Glow
& more.
Disclaimer: Jacob Robinson and his guests are not your lawyer. Nothing herein or mentioned on the Law of Code podcast should be construed as legal advice. The material published is intended for informational, educational, and entertainment purposes only. Please seek the advice of counsel, and do not apply any of the generalized material to your individual facts or circumstances without speaking to an attorney.