
Law of Code
Discussions with regulators, top lawyers and entrepreneurs about the legal framework for blockchain technology. We look at international regulations, trends, and jurisprudence impacting crypto and its related parts.
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Jul 1, 2025 • 39min
#148 - Former DOJ attorney Jessi Brooks on unhosted wallets and crypto tracing tools
Jessi Brooks is the General Counsel & Chief Compliance Officer at Ribbit Capital. Prior to Ribbit, Jessi was an attorney at the U.S. Department of Justice, where she worked on high-profile crypto and national security cases. Jessi explains the blockchain tools used in the Bitfinex hack, why crypto > cash, how the DOJ works with stablecoin issuers, and much more. The conversation also covers Jessi’s journey from prosecuting domestic violence cases to crypto, and her perspective on building bridges between regulators and the industry.Timestamps:➡️ 00:57 Lessons from the Bitfinex hack➡️ 06:28 Unhosted wallets and the DOJ➡️ 09:42 The role of seizure & forfeiture➡️ 13:44 Increase in crypto-related cases ➡️ 19:18 Jessi’s early DOJ crypto cases ➡️ 23:23 Al-Qassam Brigades operation➡️ 31:31 How DOJ and industry can align➡️ 35:49 Her work at Ribbit Capital and advising startupsSponsor: This episode is brought to you by Day One Law — a boutique law firm helping crypto startups navigate complex legal challenges.Visit https://www.dayonelaw.xyz/ to get in touch.#crypto #cryptocurrency #law #blockchain #bitcoin #ethereumDisclaimer: Jacob Robinson and his guests are not your lawyer. Nothing herein or mentioned on the Law of Code podcast should be construed as legal advice. The material published is intended for informational, educational, and entertainment purposes only. Please seek the advice of counsel, and do not apply any of the generalized material to your individual facts or circumstances without speaking to an attorney.

Jun 24, 2025 • 42min
#147 - Legal steps to launch blockchain products and tokens, with Nima Maleki
What steps should founders and their counsel take when launching a token or product in web3?In this episode, Jacob Robinson is joined by Nima Maleki (@Nimathefish), Counsel at Day One Law. Nima designs legal roadmaps for clients, including product counseling, token launches, and fundraising structures.Nima shares what’s market for launching blockchain products — ranging from regulatory and decentralization strategies to token valuations, whether founders still need a foundation for their project, and where tax concerns may arise throughout the process.Timestamps:➡️ 00:00 – Intro➡️ 01:03 – Sponsor: Day One Law➡️ 01:32 – Agenda: Six Steps to Product / Token Launch➡️ 04:10 – Questioning Decentralization Strategies➡️ 06:57 – Step One: Structuring Your Business➡️ 17:15 – Step Two: Fundraising➡️ 24:51 – Step Three: Token Valuation➡️ 28:48 – Step Four: Product / Token LaunchThis episode is brought to you by Day One Law — a boutique law firm helping crypto startups navigate complex legal challenges.Visit https://www.dayonelaw.xyz/ to get in touch.#crypto #cryptocurrency #law #blockchain #bitcoin #ethereumDisclaimer: Jacob Robinson and his guests are not your lawyer. Nothing herein or mentioned on the Law of Code podcast should be construed as legal advice. The material published is intended for informational, educational, and entertainment purposes only. Please seek the advice of counsel, and do not apply any of the generalized material to your individual facts or circumstances without speaking to an attorney.

May 27, 2025 • 33min
#146 - What’s new in U.S. crypto law, with Justin Wales
In this episode, Jacob Robinson is joined by Justin Wales (@bitcoin_wales), Head of Legal (Americas) at Crypto.com and author of The Crypto Legal Handbook. Sponsor: This episode is brought to you by Day One Law — a boutique law firm helping crypto startups navigate complex legal challenges. Visit https://www.dayonelaw.xyz/ to get in touch.With the release of the book’s second edition, Justin shares what’s new: from stablecoin legislation and state-level licensing regimes to AI’s intersection with crypto and the shifting regulatory tone under a new administration. We also discuss how legal frameworks are evolving, the risks of regulatory whiplash, and why meme coins, AI agents, and decentralized settlement are at the center of today’s legal debates.Timestamps:➡️ 00:00 Intro➡️ 00:46 Sponsor: Day One Law➡️ 02:00 Second Edition Highlights & Historical Context➡️ 04:00 State-Level Developments & Money Transmission Rules➡️ 06:00 Outlook on Stablecoin and Market Structure Legislation➡️ 08:00 How to Read the New Edition➡️ 10:00 Operation Chokepoint, Debanking & Tax Updates➡️ 11:30 The Rise of Meme Coins & Industry Disincentives➡️ 14:30 SEC Enforcement, Risk Appetite & Innovation➡️ 17:00 AI x Crypto: Communication, Trust & Open Protocols➡️ 20:00 Crypto's Place in Financial Infrastructure➡️ 22:30 Jurisdictional Competition & Market Pressure➡️ 25:00 The Cost of Fitting Crypto Into Legacy Systems➡️ 27:00 Global Posture Shift & Optimism for the Future➡️ 29:00 Final ThoughtsThe Crypto Legal Handbook: You can find it online for $30, here: https://thecryptolegalhandbook.com/Disclaimer: Jacob Robinson and his guests are not your lawyer. Nothing herein or mentioned on the Law of Code podcast should be construed as legal advice. The material published is intended for informational, educational, and entertainment purposes only. Please seek the advice of counsel, and do not apply any of the generalized material to your individual facts or circumstances without speaking to an attorney.

Apr 30, 2025 • 38min
#145 - Why crypto is a solution to a decades-old problem, with Tuongvy Le
If the law were truly “technology-neutral,” what would that look like in practice for a P2P securities transaction via smart contracts?In this episode, Jacob Robinson is joined by Tuongvy Le (@TuongvyLe12), who has served as General Counsel of Anchorage Digital, Partner and Head of Regulatory and Policy at Bain Capital Crypto, and Deputy GC and Compliance Officer at Worldcoin. She also spent almost six years at the SEC as Senior Counsel in the Division of Enforcement and Chief Counsel of the Legislative and Intergovernmental Affairs Office.Together, they discuss her recent Fortune article on why the SEC needs to take a hands-off approach to peer-to-peer transactions (link) and market structure history and regulation (link).Timestamps:➡️ 00:00 Intro➡️ 0:46 Sponsor: Day One Law➡️ 03:43 Peer-to-Peer Transactions: Analog vs. Digital➡️ 06:36 The Intersection of DeFi and Securities Law➡️ 12:40 Industry Self-Regulation and Best Practices➡️ 15:40 Understanding Market Structure: A Historical Context➡️ 24:31 Designing a New Market Structure for Crypto➡️ 32:25 The SEC's Evolving Stance on Crypto InnovationThis episode is brought to you by Day One Law — a boutique law firm helping crypto startups navigate complex legal challenges. Visit https://www.dayonelaw.xyz/ to get in touch.Disclaimer: Jacob Robinson and his guests are not your lawyer. Nothing herein or mentioned on the Law of Code podcast should be construed as legal advice. The material published is intended for informational, educational, and entertainment purposes only. Please seek the advice of counsel, and do not apply any of the generalized material to your individual facts or circumstances without speaking to an attorney.

Apr 22, 2025 • 26min
#144 - What SEC crypto disclosure guidance means for projects, with Dr. Chris Brummer
In this episode, Jacob Robinson is joined by Dr. Chris Brummer (@ChrisBrummerDr), Professor of Financial Technology at Georgetown Law and Founder & CEO of Bluprynt, an AI and blockchain-powered platform for automating regulatory disclosures. Together, they unpack the SEC’s recent statement: Offerings and Registrations of Securities in the Crypto Asset Markets — a document that some say could mark a paradigmatic shift in the agency’s approach to digital asset regulation. We also discuss his article on this guidance. Timestamps: ➡️ 00:00 Intro➡️ 0:46 Sponsor: Day One Law➡️ 01:37 What is Bluprynt?➡️ 07:32 Why this SEC guidance is timely and valuable➡️ 09:41 The SEC is paying down regulatory debt➡️ 16:03 Smart contract disclosures➡️ 18:40 The investment contract question➡️ 21:25 How projects can navigate this paradigm shiftThis episode is brought to you by Day One Law — a boutique law firm helping crypto startups navigate complex legal challenges. Visit https://www.dayonelaw.xyz/ to get in touch.Disclaimer: Jacob Robinson and his guests are not your lawyer. Nothing herein or mentioned on the Law of Code podcast should be construed as legal advice. The material published is intended for informational, educational, and entertainment purposes only. Please seek the advice of counsel, and do not apply any of the generalized material to your individual facts or circumstances without speaking to an attorney.

Apr 18, 2025 • 26min
#143 - The biggest legal risk facing crypto developers might be Section 1960, which Amanda Tuminelli explains
In this conversation, Jacob Robinson and Amanda Tuminelli, Executive Director of the DeFi Education Fund, delve into the criminal code provision punishing unlicensed money transmitting businesses, why this is relevant for developers of non-custodial crypto projects, and how a recent memo from the Department of Justice on ending “the regulatory weaponization against digital assets" might not have gone far enough.Timestamps: ➡️ 00:00 Intro➡️ 0:46 Sponsor: Day One Law➡️ 01:05 What is Section 1960 and how does it impact crypto developers➡️ 03:42 What case law tells us about Section 1960➡️ 06:11 How money transmitting and money service businesses are defined ➡️ 09:14 The DOJ's memo on ending regulation by enforcement against crypto➡️ 13:40 The charge at the heart of the Tornado Cash and Samurai Wallet cases➡️ 18:48 Tornado Cash sanctions and OFAC's delisting: Not exactly as advertisedThe DeFi Education Fund is hiring! You can learn more about their open positions here: https://www.defieducationfund.org/jobs-internships This episode of the Law of Code podcast is brought to you by Day One Law — a boutique corporate law firm founded by recurring guest (and friend of the show) Nick Pullman. Nick and his team at Day One provide strategic legal counsel to startups, crypto projects, and Web3 innovators. Visit https://www.dayonelaw.xyz/ get in touch. Disclaimer: Jacob Robinson and his guests are not your lawyer. Nothing herein or mentioned on the Law of Code podcast should be construed as legal advice. The material published is intended for informational, educational, and entertainment purposes only. Please seek the advice of counsel, and do not apply any of the generalized material to your individual facts or circumstances without speaking to an attorney.

Apr 11, 2025 • 33min
#142 — Unpacking the SEC Statement on Stablecoins with Larry Florio
Jacob Robinson and Larry Florio delve into the SEC's recent statement on stablecoins and how SEC staff applied the Reves and Howey tests to determine whether stablecoins are considered securities. Show highlights:[2:00] What this statement means for lawyers[3:30] When stablecoins aren't securities[7:00] The platonic ideal of a stablecoin[11:00] Applying the Reves test to Covered Stablecoins[18:00] Applying the Howey test to Covered Stablecoins[25:00] The new-look SEC& much more.Disclaimer: Jacob Robinson and his guests are not your lawyer. Nothing herein or mentioned on the Law of Code podcast should be construed as legal advice. The material published is intended for informational, educational, and entertainment purposes only. Please seek the advice of counsel, and do not apply any of the generalized material to your individual facts or circumstances without speaking to an attorney.This episode of the Law of Code podcast is brought to you by Day One Law — a boutique corporate law firm founded by recurring guest (and friend of the show) Nick Pullman. Nick and his team at Day One provide strategic legal counsel to startups, crypto projects, and Web3 innovators. You can get in contact with them via this link.

Jul 29, 2024 • 50min
#141 - Josh Lawler and Jener Sakiri on securities, regulation and gaming in crypto
Josh Lawler is a partner at Zuber Lawler, where he leads the firm’s Emerging Technologies Group with a particular emphasis on blockchain technology. Josh previously practiced as a corporate securities and M&A attorney at Skadden, Arps.
Jener Sakiri is an associate at Zuber Lawler and focuses on transactional and regulatory matters. He often works with clients involved in blockchain technology. He was previously the Chief Legal Officer of Niftify, a white label NFT marketplace solution for small-medium businesses.
Show highlights:
[3:52] Securities and crypto
[9:05] "crypto contracts" and U.S. regulation
[23:00] Realistic options for raising $1 million-plus
[24:57] The market
[26:34] A new regulatory framework for the advent of decentralized exchanges
[33:05] Banning the tools such as Tornado Cash.
& much more.
Disclaimer: Jacob Robinson and his guests are not your lawyer. Nothing herein or mentioned on the Law of Code podcast should be construed as legal advice. The material published is intended for informational, educational, and entertainment purposes only. Please seek the advice of counsel, and do not apply any of the generalized material to your individual facts or circumstances without speaking to an attorney.

Jul 22, 2024 • 1h 7min
#140 - SAFEs, SAFTs and what's market for crypto startups with Nick Pullman
Nick Pullman (@NickPullmanEsq) is Corporate Counsel and founder of Day One Law Corporation, where he provides legal solutions for tech startups and investors. Nick was previously head of legal at an NFT startup and an associate at Cooley and DLA Piper.
In this conversation, we cover:
[2:53] Nick's introduction to Bitcoin
[7:33] What's market: SAFEs, SAFTs
[19:39] Other methods of raising capital Nick's seeing
[24:21] Token grants
[32:47] Entity structuring
& much more.
Disclaimer: Jacob Robinson and his guests are not your lawyer. Nothing herein or mentioned on the Law of Code podcast should be construed as legal advice. The material published is intended for informational, educational, and entertainment purposes only. Please seek the advice of counsel, and do not apply any of the generalized material to your individual facts or circumstances without speaking to an attorney.

Jun 13, 2024 • 50min
#139 - Changing political tides in DC, Consensys' SEC lawsuit with Bill Hughes
Bill Hughes (@BillHughesDC) is Senior Counsel & Director of Global Regulatory Matters at Consensys Software, which is behind MetaMask, Infura, and various other software supporting the programmable blockchain ecosystem.
For more on Bill’s background, I recommend episode 74 of Law of Code. This conversation is focused on the lawsuit Consensys brought in Texas federal court.
Show highlights:
[2:53] SAB 121, FIT 21 bill
[9:51] Accepting crypto in Washington
[15:26] The Ethereum ETF
[26:38] Democrat support for crypto?
[36:47] Consensys' lawsuit against the SEC
[44:20] What MetaMask offers users
& much more.Disclaimer: Jacob Robinson and his guests are not your lawyer. Nothing herein or mentioned on the Law of Code podcast should be construed as legal advice. The material published is intended for informational, educational, and entertainment purposes only. Please seek the advice of counsel, and do not apply any of the generalized material to your individual facts or circumstances without speaking to an attorney.