AMDG: A Jesuit Podcast

On this week’s AMDG, host MegAnne Liebsch talks to historian Nicholas Lewis about his research into the history of Jesuit-run boarding schools for Indigenous children. These schools were part of a larger U.S. government attempt to assimilate Indigenous peoples into white European culture from the 1820s to as late as the 1970s. Indigenous families were compelled to send their children to boarding schools, effectively stripping children of their language, culture and community. Jesuit leadership in the U.S. knew that Jesuits administered a number of such schools, but accounts varied as to how many, where they were located, and for how long. So in January of 2022, Nick was hired to examine the archives and identify some of these basic facts. His research has confirmed 24 mission locations where the Jesuits ran a boarding school for Native children, a full list of which can be found on our website and is linked below. We invited Nick on the podcast to discuss his findings and give us a broad overview of this history. ***Warning: This episode deals with trauma, as well as mentions of physical and sexual abuse. Take care while listening.*** Further resources: Our website: www.jesuits.org/native-boarding-schools Full list of Jesuit-run school locations: https://www.jesuits.org/press-release/list/ Report on boarding school funding: https://inthesetimes.com/article/catholic-church-mission-schools-investigation-treaty-ojibwe-native-people Native American Boarding School Healing Coalition: https://boardingschoolhealing.org/ Truth and healing efforts at Red Cloud Indian School: https://www.redcloudschool.org/pages/truth-and-healing Education for Extinction David Wallace Adams: https://kansaspress.ku.edu/9780700629602/ Converting the Rosebud by Harvey Markowitz: https://www.oupress.com/9780806159850/converting-the-rosebud/ Boarding School Seasons by Brenda Child: https://www.nebraskapress.unl.edu/nebraska/9780803214804/ Churches and the Indian Schools by Francis Paul Prucha: https://www.amazon.com/Churches-Indian-Schools-1888-1912-Francis/dp/0803236573

One of the big challenges in higher education today is polarization in the classroom, which of course reflects the polarization of the country at large. Professors like Dr. Amy Uelmen are trying to figure out how to encourage their students to speak and listen to each other across divides on complex social issues where there are no easy answers. Amy is a professor at the Georgetown Law Center, where she’s also a special assistant to the dean and the director of mission and ministry. Just in case that’s not enough to keep her busy, Amy is also a Senior Research Fellow at the Berkley Center on Religion, Peace and World Affairs. Host Mike Jordan Laskey asked her about her work at the intersections of faith, morality and law, and also to see if they could tease out some tips that those of us who aren’t in law school could use when trying to connect with people we disagree with on thorny issues. Amy is also a member of the Focolare Movement, a lay ecclesial movement and international organization founded in Italy by Chiara Lubich in 1943. Focolare is centered on Christ’s prayer from the Gospel “that they all may be one,” so it’s clear to see how Amy’s faith life is leading directly to her research and work in the classroom. Learn more about Amy: https://www.law.georgetown.edu/faculty/amelia-j-uelmen/ Essay on dialogue after the January 6 riot: https://canopyforum.org/2021/01/13/whither-dialogue-after-the-capitol-riot/ Learn more about Focolare: https://www.focolare.org/en/ AMDG is a production of the Jesuit Conference of Canada and the United States. www.jesuits.org/ www.beajesuit.org/ twitter.com/jesuitnews facebook.com/Jesuits instagram.com/wearethejesuits youtube.com/societyofjesus

A disturbing trend over the past couple of years has been the rise of antisemitism. The Anti-Defamation League, which tracks antisemitic incidents, says 2021 was the worst year in decades and that 2022 will look similar once the numbers are tabulated. We’re in a five-year upswing overall. Let’s not give any more oxygen to acts of hate. Instead, we are thrilled to be sharing this conversation host Mike Jordan Laskey recently had with Dr. Phil Cunningham and Dr. Adam Gregerman, two scholars who have devoted their careers to building bridges between Jews and Catholics. Phil and Adam lead the Institute for Jewish-Catholic Relations at Saint Joseph’s University in Philadelphia. The institute was founded in 1967 in response to the Second Vatican Council. Phil is Catholic and Adam is Jewish, and their shared leadership models the type of engagement the institute is all about. You’ll see this sort of collaboration on display throughout the episode. Mike asked them for a brief historical overview of the relationship between Catholics and Jews, and why the promulgation of the Vatican II document Nostra Aetate was such an important turning point. Adam and Phil also talked about the work they’re doing today, and how we can build relationships across religious divides without erasing each faith’s uniqueness. Institute for Jewish-Catholic Relations: https://www.sju.edu/college-arts-and-sciences/ijcr Council of Centers on Jewish-Christian Relations: https://ccjr.us/ AMDG is a production of the Jesuit Conference of Canada and the United States. www.jesuits.org/ www.beajesuit.org/ twitter.com/jesuitnews facebook.com/Jesuits instagram.com/wearethejesuits youtube.com/societyofjesus

If you’ve spent much time reading about Ignatian spirituality, there’s a good chance you’ve come across the work of Jim Manney. He has a great book on the Examen called “A Simple, Life-Changing Prayer” that often serves as introduction for many to this all-important part of Ignatian spirituality. Jim has this way of boiling down his vast—and it is vast!—array of Ignatian knowledge in a way that is accessible, powerful and practical. His writing stays with you. And so, his newest book, which essentially is an exercise in making Ignatian spirituality accessible and practical, is pretty exciting. It’s called “What Matters Most and Why: Living the Spirituality of St. Ignatius of Loyola.” In the book are 365 daily reflections—each less than a page. Jim is today’s guest, and he walks us through his own life story, how he became so enamored with the spirituality of Ignatius, how he goes about sharing it with others and why he thinks it’s important to do so. Learn more about Jim's work by visiting: jimmanneybooks.com.

Over the past couple of weeks, there have been countless reflections on the life and work of Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, highlighting his rich theological writings and his decades of church service and even some of the challenging moments he faced before, during and after his papacy. He was a complex man with so much experience. Let us pray that he might rest in the peace of Christ forever. Whenever a world-historical event happens related to the papacy, host Mike Jordan Laskey likes to call up his friend Dr. Christopher Bellitto, Ph.D. Chris is a medievalist, a church historian and a professor of history at Kean University in New Jersey. He’s a frequent media commentator on church history and contemporary Catholicism, and you might have seen him quoted in recent days in the Washington Post, CNN, NBC and other outlets. He always brings the long view to current events as a scholar of history. Chris talked about the history of papal resignations and what lessons the church might learn from how Benedict’s post-papacy unfolded. He also talked a bit about the history of Jesuit superior general resignations, and teased his upcoming book from Georgetown University Press titled “Humility: The Secret History of a Lost Virtue.” Learn more about Dr. Bellitto: https://sites.google.com/a/kean.edu/christopher-m-bellitto-ph-d/ AMDG is a production of the Jesuit Conference of Canada and the United States. https://www.jesuits.org/ https://beajesuit.org/ twitter.com/jesuitnews facebook.com/Jesuits instagram.com/wearethejesuits youtube.com/societyofjesus

Today’s guest is Anjela Barnes, the vice president of the Accokeek Foundation. In her work, she helps preserve and protect Piscataway park, located in southern Maryland on the Potomac River. This is part of the traditional homelands of the Piscataway people, of which Anjela is a member. As you’ll hear in this episode, host Eric Clayton met Anjela at Loyola University Maryland. She was on a panel discussing what justice looks like for Indigenous people—and what injustices have been perpetrated throughout our history. And while the conversation certainly focused on the need for justice, one theme kept resurfacing: Too often discussions around issues of Indigenous communities are limited to the mere reality that Indigenous people are not relics of the past but in fact members of our present community with joys and challenges and hardships and triumphs just like anybody. Yet, many of us are still surprised to learn that there are Indigenous folks next to us in line at the supermarket or the next booth over at the diner. And so, what you’ll hear today is a delicate dance, a paradox almost. Anjela and Eric discuss how Indigenous people are more than just stories, more than a window into the past. And yet, at the same time, without understanding and asking after those stories, without looking through that window, we can not grasp the unique experiences—and, as such, the unique injustices and struggles—of Indigenous communities in the present. We can not reduce people to a single story, and yet we still must page through those many chapters. This is an important conversation—and we hope you’ll find it insightful. If you want to learn more about Anjela and her work at the Accokeek Foundation, visit https://www.accokeek.org/.

Poetry can be intimidating and inaccessible. Why even bother? Guest Philip Metres is a living reminder that it’s worth it to bother, worth it to wrestle with poetry even when it’s difficult because the power of language is uniquely human and is one of the best parts of being alive. Phil is a poet, author and professor of English literature at John Caroll University in Cleveland, Ohio. He’s the author of ten books and has won fellowships from institutions like the Guggenheim Foundation and the National Endowment for the Arts. As the product of a Jesuit high school and college education, it’s consoling to see that much of his work takes up themes of spirituality and social justice, and what prompted host Mike Jordan Laskey to invite Phil on the show was a fabulous essay Phil wrote for Image Journal that was part book review, part memoir and part theological reflection. Phil also reads two of his poems and talks about them. Read Phil’s Image Journal essay: https://imagejournal.org/article/the-other-world-and-this-one-immanent-and-transcendent-tendencies-in-contemporary-poetry/ Learn more about Phil: https://philipmetres.com/ AMDG is a production of the Jesuit Conference of Canada and the United States.

Earlier this month, Nicole Perone and John Grosso were anxiously awaiting the birth of their first child. Nicole and John are both what you could call professional Catholics – Nicole is the national coordinator for a young adult initiative called ESTEEM that works to prepare college students for faith life after graduation. And after several years working in digital media for the Diocese of Bridgeport, Connecticut, John is on the communications team at a network of Catholic philanthropic organizations called FADICA. In between Nicole and John’s conversation with host Mike Jordan Laskey and the release of this episode, Rose Marie Grosso was born on December 12, and both she and Nicole are doing well. The question at the heart of this episode: What was Advent like for two super-thoughtful, Jesuit-formed parents-to-be? Does the story of the Holy Family resonate differently when you’re nine months pregnant? And as people who have devoted their professional and personal lives to serving the church, Nicole and John offered their reflections on the state of the church today – their thoughts and feelings on this community of faith they’re bringing Rose Marie into. AMDG is a production of the Jesuit Conference of Canada and the United States.

It’s a great time of year to sit back, relax and watch a Christmas movie. To help you fill out your binge-watching schedule these last few days before Christmas, host Mike Jordan Laskey invited Fr. Jim McDermott, SJ, onto the show to talk about some of their favorite movies to watch this time of year. Jim is an ideal candidate for this work. He’s a fantastic writer who covers the intersection of pop culture and spirituality. (His Twitter handle is literally “@PopCulturPriest.” These days, he’s an associate editor at America Magazine in New York, but he has training and experience as a screenwriter and spent some time working for the TV channel AMC. Jim and Mike each picked three of their favorite Christmas movies to discuss. They also talked about Jim’s life as a Jesuit writer and what interests some of his Hollywood executive friends about his vocation to the priesthood. It was a super-fun conversation and should get you in the Christmas spirit – which, as you’ll hear from Jim and Mike as a common theme in this discussion, means two parts joy and maybe three parts melancholy. Read Fr. Jim in America Magazine: https://www.americamagazine.org/voices/jim-mcdermott AMDG is a production of the Jesuit Conference of Canada and the United States.

In today's episode, meet writer and illustrator team, Paul Mitchell and Katie Broussard, a brother and sister passionate about sharing Ignatian spirituality with kids -- their own and others! Their latest project, "The Examen Book" from Loyola Press, doesn't just teach kids how to pray the examen; it invites families to encounter a God of love together. A little more about Paul and Katie: Paul cares full-time for his young sons and writes in the service of lay formation. He taught in Uganda, Chicago, Boston, and Egypt, and studied theology at the University of Notre Dame and the Boston College School of Theology and Ministry. Katie is an award-winning illustrator of The Examen Book, Audacious Ignatius, Sorin Starts a School, and I'm a Saint in the Making. Buy the book: https://store.loyolapress.com/the-examen-book Find "Audacious Ignatius": https://cordepress.com/ Learn more about Paul: https://paulmitchell.blog/ Learn more about Katie: https://katiebroussard.com/about/