Church Disrupted

Jeff Cochran
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Aug 4, 2025 • 1h 7min

094: Debunking Common MYTHS About Tithing That Pastors Teach

WE’VE MADE TITHING AN IDOL — AND IT’S HURTING PEOPLE.For years, I taught what most churches preach about tithing: “10% minimum or you’re robbing God.” Then I actually studied the Bible. What I found changed how I viewed tithing and generosity!In this video, we discuss some toxic teachings crushing believers:⚡️ The LIE that Malachi 3 applies to modern day christians⚡️ The DANGER of “sacrifice = worship” theology⚡️ The SHOCKING truth about the widow’s mite (it’s NOT what you think)⚡️ How pastors misuse “storehouse” giving (sometimes for control)⚡️ Why the early church NEVER tithedThis isn’t about not giving, it’s about GENEROSITY WITHOUT GUILT. If you’ve ever felt manipulated by tithing demands, spiritually abused by money sermons, or wondered, “Does God really curse me over not giving 10%," this should bring you clarity and freedom.We cover:• The 3 OLD TESTAMENT TITHES churches ignore• Why "TEST ME IN THIS” (Malachi 3:10) WASN’T FOR YOU• How ROBBING GOD became weaponized• What NEW TESTAMENT GENEROSITY really looks likeSPOILER: Not one verse commands Christians to tithe. Let’s reclaim giving from manipulation and burden and restore it to joyful generosity instead.Find out more about the Spiritual Abuse Institute and the Church Disrupted Podcast at https://www.spiritualabuse.institute/.Want to support SAI financially?https://donorbox.org/sai-initial-funding-campaignLearn more about the Safe Church Pledge Here: https://www.spiritualabuse.institute/safechurchpledgeCheck out our Awareness Apparel HERE: https://church-disrupted.sellfy.storePlease Subscribe and Share!Fair Use Disclaimer:This video may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. All clips used are protected by the Fair Use Doctrine within Title 17 of the United States Code. This doctrine safeguards the use of copyrighted material for transformative purposes, such as commentary, criticism, review and news reporting. Under Title 17 U.S.C. § 512(f), any person who makes a false, bad faith, or misleading copyright claim or uses a copyright takedown to infringe on free speech, criticism, or commentary can be held liable for damages to the content creator.Hosseinzadeh v. Klein, 276 F.Supp.3d 34 (S.D.N.Y. 2017); Equals Three, LLC v. Jukin Media, Inc., 139 F. Supp. 3d 1094 (C.D. Cal. 2015).
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Jul 28, 2025 • 2h 5min

093: Secrets Of ARC Exposed PART 2: Big Business, Troubling Patterns, & Silencing Detractors

Big money. Troubling patterns. Silenced voices.In Part 2 of our ARC investigation, we examine the current leadership, financial model, and potential legal threats behind one of America’s most influential church planting networks. What we found raises serious questions: Who’s really being protected — the people or the platform?🔍 This episode exposes:• Public scandals and systemic silence• How ARC’s financial model mirrors an MLM• Legal terms used to chill transparency• Why so many leaders keep their bylaws secretWatch PART 1 here: https://youtu.be/PoUu1k5LRo4🔗 Watch The Religion Business now (with 10% off): [https://www.thereligionbusiness.com/purchase/JEFFC83 Find out more about the Spiritual Abuse Institute and the Church Disrupted Podcast at https://www.spiritualabuse.institute/.Want to support SAI financially?https://donorbox.org/sai-initial-funding-campaignJoin the church disrupted COMMUNITY here: https://discord.gg/nbWwg8Sz6ZLearn more about the Safe Church Pledge Here: https://www.spiritualabuse.institute/safechurchpledgeCheck out our Awareness Apparel HERE: https://church-disrupted.sellfy.storePlease Subscribe and Share!00:00 Intro02:31 Is ARC Producing Integrity or Protecting Power?03:53 Who’s Leading ARC... a05:07 Stovall Weems Speaks Out: From Insider to Whistleblower06:54 From Relationships to Revenue: How ARC Became a Machine09:53 What Happens When Growth Becomes the God?15:42 Power Without Protection: The Crisis of Accountability19:03 Meet the Inner Circle: A Network of Reproach42:21 Casey Treat, Caleb Treat, and the Cost of Silence44:16 The Scorecard So Far: Integrity, Reproach, or Just Plain Silence?45:58 When Whistleblowers Tell the Truth51:54 The Celebrity Preacher Circuit: Money, Power, and Platforms01:07:33 Tavner Smith and the Governance Loophole01:15:29 Misconduct Isn't Rare — It's Repeated01:20:49 Copy-Paste Church: The ARC Growth Formula01:21:41 Where Are the Bylaws? Demanding Governance Transparency01:26:59 ARC’s Money Funnel: Church Planting or Empire Building?01:37:59 $29 Million in Revenue, $7 Million Surplus: Where Does It Go?01:45:52 Legal Threats and Information Control: Read the Fine Print01:59:36 Call to Action: If You Love the Church, Ask the Hard QuestionsFair Use Disclaimer:This video may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. All clips used are protected by the Fair Use Doctrine within Title 17 of the United States Code. This doctrine safeguards the use of copyrighted material for transformative purposes, such as commentary, criticism, review and news reporting. Under Title 17 U.S.C. § 512(f), any person who makes a false, bad faith, or misleading copyright claim or uses a copyright takedown to infringe on free speech, criticism, or commentary can be held liable for damages to the content creator.Hosseinzadeh v. Klein, 276 F.Supp.3d 34 (S.D.N.Y. 2017); Equals Three, LLC v. Jukin Media, Inc., 139 F. Supp. 3d 1094 (C.D. Cal. 2015).
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Jul 24, 2025 • 2h 20min

092: Secrets Of ARC Exposed PART 1: Sham Governance & Slippery Accountability?

In this first episode of our two-part look into ARC (Association of Related Churches,) we expose the reality of the governance structure behind many ARC churches and the systems that allow pastors to lead without true accountability.From shell boards to insider networks, we’re breaking down the documents, the silence, and the spiritual cost of ignoring transparency and accountability.If you’ve ever been part of an ARC church or wondered how so many of them operate the same way, this episode pulls back the curtain.📌 This is Part 1. Watch Part 2 for the rest of the story and to hear from a former ARC insider.Find out more about the Spiritual Abuse Institute and the Church Disrupted Podcast at https://www.spiritualabuse.institute/.Want to support SAI financially?https://donorbox.org/sai-initial-funding-campaignLearn more about the Safe Church Pledge Here: https://www.spiritualabuse.institute/safechurchpledgeCheck out our Awareness Apparel HERE: https://church-disrupted.sellfy.storePlease Subscribe and Share!Fair Use Disclaimer:This video may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. All clips used are protected by the Fair Use Doctrine within Title 17 of the United States Code. This doctrine safeguards the use of copyrighted material for transformative purposes, such as commentary, criticism, review and news reporting. Under Title 17 U.S.C. § 512(f), any person who makes a false, bad faith, or misleading copyright claim or uses a copyright takedown to infringe on free speech, criticism, or commentary can be held liable for damages to the content creator.Hosseinzadeh v. Klein, 276 F.Supp.3d 34 (S.D.N.Y. 2017); Equals Three, LLC v. Jukin Media, Inc., 139 F. Supp. 3d 1094 (C.D. Cal. 2015).
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Jul 5, 2025 • 1h 32min

091: Mega Church Pastor LOSES IT in a Social Media Tirade... Here's What Went Wrong

A mega church pastor just blew up online... and it backfired. Pastor Russell B. Johnson went off on The Religion Business documentary days before it dropped. But instead of silencing critics, his tirade raised even more questions about church transparency and looked completely un-Christlike. Here’s what really happened, and why it matters.Be one of the first people to watch the Religion Business docu-series and get 10% HERE: https://www.thereligionbusiness.com/purchase/JEFFC83 WATCH Nathan and Chris's response to Russell here: https://youtu.be/HkvlEVoD8VYWATCH our original interview about the docu-series here: https://youtu.be/gNlwIC7xwOAFind out more about the Spiritual Abuse Institute and the Church Disrupted Podcast at https://www.spiritualabuse.institute/.Want to support SAI financially?https://donorbox.org/sai-initial-funding-campaignJoin the church disrupted COMMUNITY here: https://discord.gg/nbWwg8Sz6ZLearn more about the Safe Church Pledge Here: https://www.spiritualabuse.institute/safechurchpledgeCheck out our Awareness Apparel HERE: https://church-disrupted.sellfy.storePlease Subscribe and Share!Fair Use Disclaimer:This video may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. All clips used are protected by the Fair Use Doctrine within Title 17 of the United States Code. This doctrine safeguards the use of copyrighted material for transformative purposes, such as commentary, criticism, review and news reporting. Under Title 17 U.S.C. § 512(f), any person who makes a false, bad faith, or misleading copyright claim or uses a copyright takedown to infringe on free speech, criticism, or commentary can be held liable for damages to the content creator.Hosseinzadeh v. Klein, 276 F.Supp.3d 34 (S.D.N.Y. 2017); Equals Three, LLC v. Jukin Media, Inc., 139 F. Supp. 3d 1094 (C.D. Cal. 2015).
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Jul 2, 2025 • 1h 42min

090: The Religion Business Creators Respond to Mega Church Pastor's Online Tirade

What happens when a mega church pastor publicly lashes out at a video series exposing how the church has been co-opted by power and profit? In this episode, the creators of The Religion Business, Nathan Apffel and Chris Ayoub, sit down to respond to Russell B. Johnson's social media allegations against them. Not with outrage, but to bring clarity. Nothing is off the table in this honest and direct conversation.* Russell Johnson was invited to join this conversation but declined. Here is is official statement: “I think Nathan is wrong regarding the conclusions he’s reached about tithing. but he’s been an entertaining person to go back and forth with on social media. Ruslan offered to moderate a debate, happy to do it.”Be one of the first people to watch the Religion Business docu-series and get 10% HERE: https://www.thereligionbusiness.com/purchase/JEFFC83 WATCH our original interview about the docu-series here: https://youtu.be/gNlwIC7xwOAFind out more about the Spiritual Abuse Institute and the Church Disrupted Podcast at https://www.spiritualabuse.institute/.Want to support SAI financially?https://donorbox.org/sai-initial-funding-campaignJoin the church disrupted COMMUNITY here: https://discord.gg/nbWwg8Sz6ZLearn more about the Safe Church Pledge Here: https://www.spiritualabuse.institute/safechurchpledgeCheck out our Awareness Apparel HERE: https://church-disrupted.sellfy.storePlease Subscribe and Share!Fair Use Disclaimer:This video may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. All clips used are protected by the Fair Use Doctrine within Title 17 of the United States Code. This doctrine safeguards the use of copyrighted material for transformative purposes, such as commentary, criticism, review and news reporting. Under Title 17 U.S.C. § 512(f), any person who makes a false, bad faith, or misleading copyright claim or uses a copyright takedown to infringe on free speech, criticism, or commentary can be held liable for damages to the content creator.Hosseinzadeh v. Klein, 276 F.Supp.3d 34 (S.D.N.Y. 2017); Equals Three, LLC v. Jukin Media, Inc., 139 F. Supp. 3d 1094 (C.D. Cal. 2015).
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Jun 23, 2025 • 2h 29min

089: I PRESSED Ruslan On NDAs, Plagiarism, & Deconstruction—Here’s What Happened

When I sat down with Ruslan KD, things got tense. We tackled NDAs, sermon plagiarism, spiritual abuse, and the messy truth behind deconstruction. We didn’t always agree, but we didn’t hold back either.This is a conversation every christian should here, especially church leaders!Find out more about the Spiritual Abuse Institute and the Church Disrupted Podcast at https://www.spiritualabuse.institute/.Want to support SAI financially?https://donorbox.org/sai-initial-funding-campaignJoin the church disrupted COMMUNITY here: https://discord.gg/nbWwg8Sz6ZLearn more about the Safe Church Pledge Here: https://www.spiritualabuse.institute/safechurchpledgeCheck out our Awareness Apparel HERE: https://church-disrupted.sellfy.storePlease Subscribe and Share!CHAPTERS:00:00 Introduction to a Controversial Church Convo01:53 Why This Conversation Happened03:19 Ruslan's weighs in09:17 Ruslan's Reaction to Dr. Michael Brown16:46 Too Charitable OR Too Critical?24:54 Sin is Sin?31:34 NDAs in Churches44:46 Power Dynamics47:27 Legal and Ethical Questions50:47 Real Church NDAs57:23 Non-Disparagement vs. Defamation01:06:17 A Better Approach to NDAs01:11:13 Legal Loopholes and NDAs in Churches01:16:19 SAI's Perspective01:20:58 Deconstruction - Good or Bad?01:27:13 Reconstruction and Faith Journeys01:37:58 Responding to Deconstruction01:43:48 Church Trends01:50:47 Celebrity Conversions and Faith Journeys01:53:33 Reasons for Deconstruction?01:56:17 Extreme Swings02:02:19 To the hurting02:15:30 Final Thoughts and EncouragementFair Use Disclaimer:This video may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. All clips used are protected by the Fair Use Doctrine within Title 17 of the United States Code. This doctrine safeguards the use of copyrighted material for transformative purposes, such as commentary, criticism, review and news reporting. Under Title 17 U.S.C. § 512(f), any person who makes a false, bad faith, or misleading copyright claim or uses a copyright takedown to infringe on free speech, criticism, or commentary can be held liable for damages to the content creator.Hosseinzadeh v. Klein, 276 F.Supp.3d 34 (S.D.N.Y. 2017); Equals Three, LLC v. Jukin Media, Inc., 139 F. Supp. 3d 1094 (C.D. Cal. 2015).
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Jun 17, 2025 • 1h 7min

088: John Bevere’s Bait Of Satan: Biblical Teaching Or Harmful Doctrine!?

The discussion dives into the controversial teachings of John Bevere, specifically his 'Bait of Satan' doctrine. It critiques the interpretation of biblical passages, emphasizing the importance of context and original language. Key topics include the nuances of offense in scripture and the dangers of spiritual abuse often lurking behind misinterpretations. Listeners are urged to reconsider the impact of false teachings and the need for genuine accountability in faith communities, especially regarding personal grievances.
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Jun 2, 2025 • 2h

087: Did This Texas Mega Church Sermon Silence Victims of Spiritual Abuse?

In this episode of the Church Disrupted Podcast, Jeff Cochran critically review a Mother’s Day sermon from Lake Pointe Church that many say silenced victims of spiritual abuse. We unpack the harmful messages that minimize real pain and why this matters for church accountability and healing. If you care about protecting survivors and calling out spiritual abuse, this conversation is a must-watch.Find out more about the Spiritual Abuse Institute and the Church Disrupted Podcast at https://www.spiritualabuse.institute/.Want to support SAI financially?https://donorbox.org/sai-initial-funding-campaignLearn more about the Safe Church Pledge Here: https://www.spiritualabuse.institute/safechurchpledgeCheck out our Awareness Apparel HERE: https://church-disrupted.sellfy.storePlease Subscribe and Share!Fair Use Disclaimer:This video may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. All clips used are protected by the Fair Use Doctrine within Title 17 of the United States Code. This doctrine safeguards the use of copyrighted material for transformative purposes, such as commentary, criticism, review and news reporting. Under Title 17 U.S.C. § 512(f), any person who makes a false, bad faith, or misleading copyright claim or uses a copyright takedown to infringe on free speech, criticism, or commentary can be held liable for damages to the content creator.Hosseinzadeh v. Klein, 276 F.Supp.3d 34 (S.D.N.Y. 2017); Equals Three, LLC v. Jukin Media, Inc., 139 F. Supp. 3d 1094 (C.D. Cal. 2015).
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May 29, 2025 • 35min

086: Embracing Holy Anger: Love That Won’t Be Quiet About Church Abuse

Anger is often villified in the church, but what if anger isn’t the enemy, especially when it’s holy and fueled by love. In this video, Jeff Cochran explores why embracing righteous anger is crucial in confronting church abuse and protecting the vulnerable. If you’ve ever been told your anger isn’t “Jesus-like,” this video is for you!Find out more about the Spiritual Abuse Institute and the Church Disrupted Podcast at https://www.spiritualabuse.institute/.Want to support SAI financially?https://donorbox.org/sai-initial-funding-campaignLearn more about the Safe Church Pledge Here: https://www.spiritualabuse.institute/safechurchpledgeCheck out our Awareness Apparel HERE: https://church-disrupted.sellfy.storePlease Subscribe and Share!Fair Use Disclaimer:This video may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. All clips used are protected by the Fair Use Doctrine within Title 17 of the United States Code. This doctrine safeguards the use of copyrighted material for transformative purposes, such as commentary, criticism, review and news reporting. Under Title 17 U.S.C. § 512(f), any person who makes a false, bad faith, or misleading copyright claim or uses a copyright takedown to infringe on free speech, criticism, or commentary can be held liable for damages to the content creator.Hosseinzadeh v. Klein, 276 F.Supp.3d 34 (S.D.N.Y. 2017); Equals Three, LLC v. Jukin Media, Inc., 139 F. Supp. 3d 1094 (C.D. Cal. 2015).
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May 28, 2025 • 1h 15min

085:When Religious Trauma Becomes Contagious: A Wake Up Call For Churches

Can religious trauma really be contagious in our churches? In this conversation, we dig into how spiritual wounds spread and affect people, often without anyone even realizing it. Whether you’ve been hurt, lead a church, or just want to understand what’s going on, this video breaks down why awareness matters and how we can start healing together. If you care about making churches safer and healthier, this one’s for you.Find out more about the Spiritual Abuse Institute and the Church Disrupted Podcast at https://www.spiritualabuse.institute/.Want to support SAI financially?https://donorbox.org/sai-initial-funding-campaignLearn about the Disrupt Campaign here: https://www.spiritualabuse.institute/about/disruptgivingcampaignLearn more about the Safe Church Pledge Here: https://www.spiritualabuse.institute/safechurchpledgeCheck out our Awareness Apparel HERE: https://church-disrupted.sellfy.storePlease Subscribe and Share!Fair Use Disclaimer:This video may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. All clips used are protected by the Fair Use Doctrine within Title 17 of the United States Code. This doctrine safeguards the use of copyrighted material for transformative purposes, such as commentary, criticism, review and news reporting. Under Title 17 U.S.C. § 512(f), any person who makes a false, bad faith, or misleading copyright claim or uses a copyright takedown to infringe on free speech, criticism, or commentary can be held liable for damages to the content creator.Hosseinzadeh v. Klein, 276 F.Supp.3d 34 (S.D.N.Y. 2017); Equals Three, LLC v. Jukin Media, Inc., 139 F. Supp. 3d 1094 (C.D. Cal. 2015).Chapters: 00:00 - Intro01:09 - Meet the Experts: Dr. Lisa Compton and Taylor Patterson04:51 - Understanding Compassion Fatigue and Safeguarding07:58 - Challenges of Recognizing and Addressing Religious Trauma10:02 - The Importance of Healing for Helpers30:53 - Boundaries in Ministry40:17 - The Challenge of Problem-Solving Mode51:37 - The Importance of Trauma-Informed Training01:05:28 - Collective and Communal Trauma01:11:55 - Final Thoughts

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