

Best Story Wins
Column Five
Welcome to “Best Story Wins,” a podcast for marketing and branding professionals looking to unlock their growth potential. Hosted by Column Five—a B2B marketing agency that specializes in brand and content marketing for SaaS companies—each episode features insightful conversations with industry leaders who are winning customers’ hearts and minds by building world-class brands. Tune in to hear expert insights, hard-won lessons, and key strategies to take your own marketing efforts to the next level.
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Aug 7, 2025 • 29min
Building Trust in a Noisy World with Kelly Phillips of Faire
We’re creating more content than ever—but at what cost to meaning and connection?In this episode, Kelly Phillips—VP of Brand Marketing at Faire, and former brand leader at Airbnb, YouTube, and Google—shares what it really takes to build a brand that people trust and feel connected to.We talk about what makes brand matter in the age of AI, how to build trust on both sides of a marketplace, and what it looks like when your brand actually helps people succeed—not just sells to them.We also discuss:Why Faire wants to be a partner, not just a platform, for small retailersThe “Fair Forecast” and the power of data-driven, non-boring trend reportsWhy early brand investment is no longer optional for AI-first companies

Jul 31, 2025 • 51min
Building B2B Brands with Authentictiy with Kevin Branscum of Typeform
If your brand doesn’t spark a feeling, it’s already forgettable. In a world where every product looks the same, the only thing that truly sells is vibe.B2B marketing is broken. Everyone’s selling the same tools with the same bland copy—and in the AI era, product parity is only getting worse. So how do you stand out when sameness is the default? You build a brand people actually feel something about. In this episode, Kevin Branscum, VP of Brand Marketing at Typeform, breaks down how to inject personality, culture, and staying power into your B2B brand.We also discuss:Why most B2B brands sound like AI wrote them—and how to sound human againHow to borrow from the playbooks of fashion and luxury to build worlds, not just marketing campaignsHow to think beyond spreadsheets and bring real people—your customers and their customers—into the heart of your marketing

Jul 24, 2025 • 42min
The Quiet Revolution Behind B2B Brand Wins with Deanna Adams of Dropbox
Too often, B2B brands chase clicks that don’t lead to real results. The fix? It’s not more ad spend—it’s aligning your systems and strategy.In this episode, Deanna Adams, Senior Director of Integrated Campaign Marketing at Dropbox, reveals how to actually make your brand show up across the entire customer journey—not just in a 15-second pre-roll.Deanna shares how her team re-engineered Dropbox’s content engine for agility, built emotional resonance through integrated campaigns, and created a structure that lets the brand promise echo from awareness to advocacy. It’s not theory—it’s game film from the frontlines of modern B2B marketing.We also cover:Why the “brand vs. performance” debate is holding your team backHow AI is shifting from shiny feature to workflow essentialWhat a truly integrated customer journey looks like in practiceHow to structure agile teams that actually collaborate

Jul 17, 2025 • 50min
How to Rebuild a Legacy Brand from the Ground Up with Carla Weis of Docusign
Great brands don’t just evolve—they outgrow their origin stories.Docusign made the signature famous. Now it’s on a mission to make agreements iconic—and that meant blowing up the brand as the world knew it.In this episode, Carla Weis, VP of Brand and Creative at Docusign, shares the bold, strategic, and fast-paced four-month overhaul behind one of the most successful B2B rebrands in recent years. We dive into how Carla’s team transformed the 22-year-old brand into a full-blown intelligent agreement platform—and why that required more than just a new logo.We also discuss:The business risk of staying visually familiar when your product leaps forwardWhy B2B brand archetypes aren’t fluffy—they’re functional decision-making toolsHow “self-serve creative” and 600+ Canva users are scaling the brand with precisionWhy they embraced jargon, dropped the “everyman,” and leaned into the Sage-Ruler-Hero brand trio

Jul 10, 2025 • 24min
How to Build a Brand with Bite with Emily Anne Epstein of Sigma
If your brand feels more like a dusty whitepaper than a bold statement, you're doing it wrong.In this episode, we sit down with Emily Anne Epstein, the content lead behind Sigma’s rapid rise. Emily unpacks why every modern brand needs a POV that punches—and how to create a system where thought leadership isn’t just encouraged, but expected. She shares why content is the engine, not the accessory; how to weaponize data to justify bold creative bets; and what it really takes to stand out in a sea of same.We also coverWhy purity tests for AI content are a dead-end distractionHow Sigma uses attribution data to justify every content decisionWhy you don’t need a Head of Brand to have a killer brandThe real secret to scaling thought leadershipHow to inject “punk rock” into your B2B tone without losing credibility

Jul 3, 2025 • 39min
The Unscalable Stuff That Scales with Ross Mayfield of Zoom
Tech is moving fast. But trust? That’s still built the old-fashioned way.As AI reshapes how we work, connect, and build, the brands that will win aren’t the ones shouting the loudest—they’re the ones people actually believe.In this episode, Ross Mayfield—Head of Product for Workplace AI at Zoom—joins us to talk about why the future of marketing isn’t just smarter tech, it’s deeper human connection. Ross has seen how product, brand, and culture intersect—and how AI is forcing us to rethink it all.If you're trying to stand out in a market where everything’s automated and nothing feels real—this one’s for you.We discuss:Why your product experience is now your brand’s loudest voiceThe return of trust as the most powerful growth strategyHow agentic AI is turning meetings into momentumWhat most startups get wrong about scale (and what to do instead)Why integration is becoming a commodity—and what that means for differentiation

Jun 26, 2025 • 42min
Why Trust Is the New Brand Currency with Ethan Bloch of Hiro
While many fintechs are focused on surface-level features, Ethan Bloch is building an ambitious, AI-powered financial product from the ground up. In this episode, Ethan, Founder of Digit and now Hiro Finance, shares why he believes most financial tools are more cosmetic than useful, and how a truly helpful product can speak for itself—no referral codes needed. He breaks down how AI is unlocking more personalized financial support, why trust is the most valuable asset in fintech, and how strong branding often follows when you genuinely solve real problems.We also cover:How building in the age of large language models reshapes teams, trust, and timelinesWhy putting product value first creates long-term brand strengthThe single survey question that reveals true product-market fit

Jun 19, 2025 • 47min
Becoming Marketing’s Big Sister with Trish Seidel of Teal
It’s a tough time to be a marketer. Teams are lean, expectations are high, and AI is everywhere—but automation can only take you so far if your brand voice gets lost in the shuffle. So how do you keep your storytelling sharp and human in a world that’s increasingly not?In this episode, we’re joined by Trish Seidel, Marketing Director at Teal and the voice behind “Marketing’s Big Sister.” Trish brings a thoughtful, grounded perspective on what it means to build real brand connection in a noisy landscape. From her experience bridging U.S. and European startup cultures to her experiments with AI-powered content, Trish shares what’s working, what’s broken, and why marketers deserve better.We also talk about:Teal’s unique approach to scaling content with AI agents (that still sound human)The cultural divide in startup marketing across continentsWhy ABM often misses the markThe emotional weight of proving your value in scrappy teams

Jun 12, 2025 • 45min
The Cult of Rebranding in B2B with Matt Maynard of Asana
Brand teams are obsessed with differentiation, but what if distinctiveness is the real power move? And while you're chasing loyalty, your competitors are winning with reach.In this episode, Matt Maynard, Asana’s Head of Brand and Advertising, joins the show to challenge the dogmas of B2B brand strategy. From calling out the cult of rebrands to exposing the limits of loyalty and the illusion of celebrity endorsements, Matt lays out a new playbook rooted in evidence. He unpacks how real brand growth comes from building mental availability, not just big ideas, and why most marketers still mistake folklore for fact.We dive into:Why most B2B brand teams are optimizing for creativity instead of outcomesThe distinctiveness vs. differentiation smackdown (and why it matters more than ever)How AI is the ultimate sparring partner—not just a creative sidekickWhy brand characters beat celebrities in the long game of memoryHow Asana is automating workflows to bring brand science into every touchpoint

Jun 5, 2025 • 39min
Smarter GTM for Marketing Leaders with Brandon Redlinger of The Forge
Many go-to-market strategies sound good on paper but fall apart in practice. The issue isn’t the lack of talent, but rather the misalignment, timing, or wrong assumptions they’re founded on.In this episode, Brandon Redlinger, fractional marketing leader and co-founder of The Forge community, shares what he's learned from years in the trenches of B2B marketing, from building ABM categories to launching his own curated community for marketing leaders. He talks about why brand matters more than ever, what makes community-building actually work, and how to avoid the common pitfalls that derail go-to-market efforts.We also explore:Why category creation starts with clarity, not buzzwordsThe value of brand in speeding up pipeline and reducing CACHow community can elevate marketing leadership—not just audience engagementWhat early-stage companies must get right in their GTM motionHow marketing leaders can vet roles and align with CEOs from day one


