

Veterans of Culture Wars
Zach Malm and David Lester
Conversation on the beliefs, history, culture and personal stories from Evangelical Christianity as engaged by veteran culture warriors and friends.
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Mar 26, 2024 • 1h 11min
108: Jewish Voices for Peace: Dr. Alice Rothchild and Abby Brockman
With Israel's brutal war against Gaza still raging, Dr. Alice Rothchild and Abby Brockman join the VCW hall to talk about the horror of Israel's war, to talk about their interactions with Palestinian people and the hospitality they experienced as well as speaking about their perspectives on Jewish faith and values.
Read Dr. Rothchild's articles:
The Seattle Times: https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/in-israel-hamas-war-where-are-the-voices-of-the-healing-profession/
The New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/09/opinion/children-mothers-pregnant-gaza.html
Support the show on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/vcwpod
Dave's second podcast- "Does the Bible Say THAT?": https://open.spotify.com/episode/0a8CCeIvjiFn1lKwKmxNt6?si=H1UswE0VT3m2tmZNFuSC4Q
Twitter: @vcwpod
Zach- @muzach
Dave- @Davejlester
Check out Zach's music by going to: https://muzach.bandcamp.com

Mar 12, 2024 • 1h 5min
107: Theologizin' Bigger With Trey Ferguson
Pastor Trey Ferguson joins the VCW hall to talk about Theologizin' Bigger, his new book out now. We talk about theology and imagination, Biblical inerrancy including the 1978 Chicago statement, an Ark in Kentucky and much more.
Get Pastor Trey's book right here: https://www.lakedrivebooks.com/books/theologizin-bigger/
Listen to The New Living Treyslation right here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-living-treyslation/id1576078435
Listen to Three Black Men podcast right here: https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/three-black-men-theology-culture-and-the-world-around-us/id1535582503
Support the show on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/vcwpod
Dave's second podcast- "Does the Bible Say THAT?": https://open.spotify.com/episode/0a8CCeIvjiFn1lKwKmxNt6?si=H1UswE0VT3m2tmZNFuSC4Q
Twitter: @vcwpod
Zach- @muzach
Dave- @Davejlester
Check out Zach's music by going to: https://muzach.bandcamp.com

Mar 7, 2024 • 1h 55min
106: Our Favorite Movies of 2023 Part 2 with Jeffrey Overstreet and Dr Mary McCampbell
Part 2 of the big annual pre-Oscars dive into our favorite movies of the year and the Oscar nominees. Part 2 covers the top 7 films on each our our top 10 lists, which we'd started going through toward the end of Part 1.
Jeffrey Overstreet returns and brings with him new VCW guest Dr Mary McCampbell, an author, professor, and speaker who focuses on the theological significance of popular music, film, and literature.
Subscribe to Mary's Substack The Empathetic Imagination: https://marymccampbell.substack.com/
Subscribe to Jeffrey's Substack Give Me Some Light:
https://jeffreyoverstreet.substack.com/
Read R. Scott Okamoto's blog on the Oppenheimer film right here (referenced in the episode): https://rscottokamoto.substack.com/p/ok-oppenheimer
Support the show on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/vcwpod
Dave's second podcast- "Does the Bible Say THAT?": https://open.spotify.com/episode/0a8CCeIvjiFn1lKwKmxNt6?si=H1UswE0VT3m2tmZNFuSC4Q
Twitter: @vcwpod
Zach- @muzach
Dave- @Davejlester
Check out Zach's music by going to: https://muzach.bandcamp.com

Mar 5, 2024 • 1h 34min
105: Our Favorite Movies of 2023 Part 1 with Jeffrey Overstreet and Dr Mary McCampbell
Our big annual pre-Oscars dive into our favorite movies of the year and the Oscar nominees is back! Jeffrey Overstreet returns and brings with him new VCW guest Dr Mary McCampbell, an author, professor, and speaker who focuses on the theological significance of popular music, film, and literature.
Subscribe to Mary's Substack The Empathetic Imagination: https://marymccampbell.substack.com/
Subscribe to Jeffrey's Substack Give Me Some Light:
https://jeffreyoverstreet.substack.com/
Read R. Scott Okamoto's blog on the Oppenheimer film right here (referenced in the episode): https://rscottokamoto.substack.com/p/ok-oppenheimer
Support the show on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/vcwpod
Dave's second podcast- "Does the Bible Say THAT?": https://open.spotify.com/episode/0a8CCeIvjiFn1lKwKmxNt6?si=H1UswE0VT3m2tmZNFuSC4Q
Twitter: @vcwpod
Zach- @muzach
Dave- @Davejlester
Check out Zach's music by going to: https://muzach.bandcamp.com

Feb 20, 2024 • 1h 4min
104: Warren Throckmorton on David Barton's Christian Nationalist Lies
Warren Throckmorton returns to the VCW hall to talk about his new podcast Telling Jefferson Lies, a companion to the recently released updated version of his 2012 book with Michael Coulter, Getting Jefferson Right. We talk about the conservative pseudo-historian David Barton, and how he distorts history to uphold and further a White Christian Nationalist view of America. Also, Mark Driscoll shares his thoughts on the new Apple Vision Pro VR headset.
Check out Professor Warren Throckmorton's work on his website: https://wthrockmorton.com/
Listen to the "Getting Jefferson Right" podcast right here: https://gettingjeffersonright.com/
Support the show on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/vcwpod
Dave's second podcast- "Does the Bible Say THAT?": https://open.spotify.com/episode/0a8CCeIvjiFn1lKwKmxNt6?si=H1UswE0VT3m2tmZNFuSC4Q
Twitter: @vcwpod
Zach- @muzach
Dave- @Davejlester
Check out Zach's music by going to: https://muzach.bandcamp.com

Feb 13, 2024 • 1h 10min
103: Mason Mennenga Sinks Into the Youth Group Couch
Dave reveals that he has moved from "still an evangelical" to "committed Christian", and Mason Mennenga joins the show to talk about process theology, being funny online, heavy Christian music, purity culture, and of course, Veggie Tales.
Follow Mason Mennenga and get into his work including podcasts, YouTube videos and more by going to his website: https://masonmennenga.com/
Support the show on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/vcwpod
Dave's second podcast- "Does the Bible Say THAT?": https://open.spotify.com/episode/0a8CCeIvjiFn1lKwKmxNt6?si=H1UswE0VT3m2tmZNFuSC4Q
Twitter: @vcwpod
Zach- @muzach
Dave- @Davejlester
Check out Zach's music by going to: https://muzach.bandcamp.com

Feb 6, 2024 • 1h 7min
102: God Gave Rock and Roll to You: Dr. Leah Payne
Dr Leah Payne joins the show to talk about the her brand new book God Gave Rock and Roll to You: A History of Contemporary Christian Music. Also, Zach reveals the results of his research into exactly when and where in Disneyland Carman became a Christian.
Buy Leah's book:
https://www.amazon.com/God-Gave-Rock-Roll-You/dp/0197555241
Support the show on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/vcwpod
Dave's second podcast- "Does the Bible Say THAT?": https://open.spotify.com/episode/0a8CCeIvjiFn1lKwKmxNt6?si=H1UswE0VT3m2tmZNFuSC4Q
Twitter: @vcwpod
Zach- @muzach
Dave- @Davejlester
Check out Zach's music by going to: https://muzach.bandcamp.com

Dec 12, 2023 • 1h 8min
101: Holly Jolly X'masu and Christmas Underground: Scott Leopold and Jim Goodwin
Niche Christmas music enthusiasts Scott Leopold of the Japanese Christmas music podcast "Holly Jolly X'masu" and Jim Goodwin of the contemporary indie rock Christmas music blog "Christmas Underground" help spread some Christmas cheer around the VCW hall by podcasting loud for all to hear. Scott shares a couple of his favorite songs he's covered on his podcast and we all talk about the what real meaning of "the real meaning of Christmas" means to us.
Check out Christmas Underground, and read Jim's review of Zach's record here: https://christmasunderground.com/2020/09/11/zach-malm-the-darkest-time-of-year-2017-2020/
Subscribe to Holly Jolly X'masu here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/holly-jolly-xmasu/id1506110098
Support the show on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/vcwpod
Dave's second podcast- "Does the Bible Say THAT?": https://open.spotify.com/episode/0a8CCeIvjiFn1lKwKmxNt6?si=H1UswE0VT3m2tmZNFuSC4Q
Twitter: @vcwpod
Zach- @muzach
Dave- @Davejlester
Check out Zach's music by going to: https://muzach.bandcamp.com
Podcast music by Zach Malm
Logo by Zach Malm

Dec 5, 2023 • 1h 10min
100: Leaving the Fold with Dr Marlene Winell
Dr. Marlene Winell is the author of the highly influential book Leaving the Fold: A Guide for Former Fundamentalists and Others Leaving Their Religion, and originated the term "Religious Trauma Syndrome", which she defined as "the condition experienced by people who are struggling with leaving an authoritarian, dogmatic religion and coping with the damage of indoctrination". We talk about that struggle, what it can be like for people experiencing it and why it can be a good thing for people to leave religion.
Check out Dr Winell's work at https://www.journeyfree.org/
Support the show on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/vcwpod
Dave's second podcast- "Does the Bible Say THAT?": https://open.spotify.com/episode/0a8CCeIvjiFn1lKwKmxNt6?si=H1UswE0VT3m2tmZNFuSC4Q
Twitter: @vcwpod
Zach- @muzach
Dave- @Davejlester
Check out Zach's music by going to: https://muzach.bandcamp.com
Podcast music by Zach Malm
Logo by Zach Malm

Nov 28, 2023 • 1h 28min
099: Dave White of Linoleum Knife on Fundamentalism, Coming Out, Movies, and Christmas
Dave White, co-host of the movie podcast Linoleum Knife, visits the VCW to talk about his background with Evangelical Christianity and coming out. We discuss some of his favoritie movies of the year (so far) and also Christmas.
Listen to the Linoleum Knife podcast right here: https://podcasts.apple.com/id/podcast/linoleum-knife/id403079737
Linoleum. Knife episode featuring Zach and Dave talking about the movie: Jesus Revolution. https://podcasts.apple.com/id/podcast/lk-special-jesus-revolution-with-veterans-of-culture-wars/id403079737?i=1000601675619
Support the show on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/vcwpod
Dave's second podcast- "Does the Bible Say THAT?": https://open.spotify.com/episode/0a8CCeIvjiFn1lKwKmxNt6?si=H1UswE0VT3m2tmZNFuSC4Q
Twitter: @vcwpod
Zach- @muzach
Dave- @Davejlester
Check out Zach's music by going to: https://muzach.bandcamp.com
Podcast music by Zach Malm
Logo by Zach Malm


