Decoding the Gurus
Christopher Kavanagh and Matthew Browne
An exiled Northern Irish anthropologist and a hitchhiking Australian psychologist take a close look at the contemporary crop of 'secular gurus', iconoclasts, and other exiles from the mainstream, offering their own brands of unique takes and special insights.
Leveraging two of the most diverse accents in modern podcasting, Chris and Matt dig deep into the claims, peek behind the psychological curtains, and try to figure out once and for all... What's it all About?
Join us, as we try to puzzle our way through and talk some smart-sounding smack about the intellectual giants of our age, from Jordan Peterson to Robin DiAngelo. Are they revolutionary thinkers or just grifters with delusions of grandeur?
Join us and let's find out!
Leveraging two of the most diverse accents in modern podcasting, Chris and Matt dig deep into the claims, peek behind the psychological curtains, and try to figure out once and for all... What's it all About?
Join us, as we try to puzzle our way through and talk some smart-sounding smack about the intellectual giants of our age, from Jordan Peterson to Robin DiAngelo. Are they revolutionary thinkers or just grifters with delusions of grandeur?
Join us and let's find out!
Episodes
Mentioned books
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Nov 3, 2025 • 1h 12min
Right to Reply: A Dialogos about Sensemaking with Alexander Beiner
Alexander Beiner, founder of Kainos and former co-founder of Rebel Wisdom, dives into the complex world of sensemaking. He discusses the legitimacy crisis facing academia and the rise of new, interdisciplinary approaches to tackle this issue. The conversation explores the dangers of muddy integrative ideas and the need for both qualitative and quantitative methods in sensemaking. Beiner also touches on the importance of community and rituals in combating today’s meaning crisis, emphasizing that understanding requires acknowledging diverse perspectives.
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Nov 1, 2025 • 38min
Supplementary Material 39: Bad Guys, Panpsychists, and Sensemakers
Dive into a playful debate as Chris and Matt tackle the role of AI in the music industry and its implications for creativity. They ponder if Chris could pass as a 'bad guy' and dissect the concept of 'vibe physics' using insights from various thinkers. Expect intriguing discussions about conspiracy beliefs, the potential of AI to alter them, and the delicate balance between neutrality and sycophancy in AI. With a mix of humor and philosophy, they explore personal beliefs and the challenges of internal coherence in thinking.
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Oct 29, 2025 • 17min
Required Readings: The Genius Myth by Helen Lewis
This discussion takes a deep dive into Helen Lewis's exploration of the myths surrounding genius. The hosts dissect how society constructs the concept and whom it benefits, with a focus on figures like Elon Musk. They challenge the validity of IQ tests and how they shape perceptions of talent, revealing dysfunctions in high-IQ circles. The narrative questions if great achievements equal innate genius and highlights the nuances of talent. Skepticism about the revolutionary claims of AI also sparks engaging debate.
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Oct 28, 2025 • 1h 7min
Discussing Nazis and Gurus with Al Murray
Join comedian Al Murray, known for his Pub Landlord persona and as a co-host on 'We Have Ways of Making You Talk', as he dives into the intriguing intersection of history and comedy. He challenges viewer perceptions of WWII fandom, discussing the romanticism behind Nazi narratives and the dangers of historical shortcuts. Al humorously critiques modern comedians' seriousness and highlights the importance of knowing history to understand power dynamics. His insights are both entertaining and thought-provoking, proving that comedy can indeed reveal deeper truths.
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Oct 26, 2025 • 3h 9min
Keith Raniere: The Serpent and the Cognitive Fog
Dive into the bizarre world of Keith Raniere, the NXIVM founder who mixes pseudo-intellectualism with cult manipulation. Explore how his teachings cleverly blur authenticity with coercion, wrapped in complex jargon that confounds rational thought. Discover the disturbing dynamics of love intertwined with pain and the endless cycle of emotional dependency he creates. Chris and Matt decode Raniere's recruitment tactics, exposing the alarming parallels to other influential gurus and warning listeners of the red flags to watch for.
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Oct 18, 2025 • 1h 14min
Lab Leak Fever with Philipp Markolin
Philipp Markolin, a biochemist-turned-author and investigator of the lab-leak discourse, shares his insights on COVID-19 origins. He highlights how public perception has been swayed by sensationalist narratives and political dynamics, detailing his personal journey through research and the pushback he faced. Markolin emphasizes the accumulating evidence supporting natural spillover origins while explaining the flaws in engineered-virus claims. He also touches on the harassment scientists endured and the financial motives driving disinformation campaigns.
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Oct 14, 2025 • 50min
Supplementary Material 38: Toxic Mould Symbiosis, Mild Phrenology, and the Best People in the World
Embrace the oddity of toxic mold symbiosis as the hosts ponder whether to trust viral social media clips. They dissect controversies like conspiracy theories around 9/11 and Eric Weinstein's claims about stagnation in physics. The discussion takes a turn to phrenology-like remarks from Andrew Huberman and explores the peculiar absence of Jordan Peterson. With humorous insights on the quirks of online outrage and the complexities of human intellect, this conversation offers a fascinating blend of wit and wisdom.
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Sep 25, 2025 • 2h 37min
A Sense-Making Odyssey, Part 2: Jordan Peterson, John Vervaeke & Jordan Hall
In this insightful discussion, Jordan Peterson, a clinical psychologist known for his cultural commentary, delves into biblical symbolism and the nature of hierarchies. John Vervaeke, a cognitive scientist, explores how finite transcendence relates to understanding reality and emphasizes the role of play over power. Jordan Hall, a writer and tech thinker, reflects on personal experiences that shape sensemaking, connecting childhood disappointments to cultural narratives. Together, they navigate the rich interplay of spirituality, culture, and cognition, offering profound insights and illuminating connections.
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Sep 20, 2025 • 42min
Supplementary Material 37: Public Murder Discourse, Heterodox Psychodramas, and Generous Tit for Tat-ers
The hosts dive into the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's murder, discussing the delicate balance of condemning violence while critiquing his controversial rhetoric. They also touch on Gary Stevenson's honorary doctorate and the hypocrisy surrounding public figures' reactions to violence. The conversation shifts to interpersonal dramas within the heterodox community, highlighting the importance of criticism and expertise. A fascinating exploration of the 'Generous Tit for Tat' strategy adds a unique twist to the discourse.
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Sep 11, 2025 • 2h 15min
A Sense-Making Odyssey, Part 1: Jordan Peterson, John Vervaeke & Jordan Hall
In this thought-provoking discussion, Jordan Peterson, a renowned Canadian psychologist and author, joins thinkers John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall to navigate complex themes of sense-making. They explore the dynamics of shared values and their impact on society, delve into the psychological constructs of conscience, and the power of self-sacrifice. The conversation also examines the distinction between human consciousness and AI, while unpacking the significance of meaningful dialogue in shaping moral frameworks and personal beliefs. Prepare for an intellectual journey filled with rich insights!
