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Robots make our cars, deliver our food, and soon they’ll be commonplace in our homes and at work, but what will this future look like? How will the robot-human dynamic play out? MIT researcher, expert on robot ethics and author of The New Breed Dr Kate Darling talks to Andrew Harrison about the emotional connection between human beings and life-life machines, if we’re going to face a robot rebellion, and why robots will need rights, just like animals…  “People tend to treat robots as if they’re alive, even though we know they aren’t.” “Robots pull on our heart-strings because we project ourselves and our emotions onto them.” “Sci-fi loves to create robots that look and act just like humans, but we are not at the stage that yet.” “We’re gradually starting to see robots come into our workplace and homes which is really exciting.” “I see lots of problems with integrating robots into our society, but they don’t come from robots rising up against us.” “There are videos online of robots being treated badly, and quite a strong backlash came from that.” “R2D2 is this glorified trashcan on wheels and yet they are the most loved robot ever.” https://www.patreon.com/bunkercasthttps://www.penguin.co.uk/books/309/309409/the-new-breed/9780241352991.html Presented and produced by Andrew Harrison. Producers: Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hear all the music on our rolling playlist: https://bit.ly/CultBunkGuitar hero, super-producer and long-suffering Arsenal fan Bernard Butler tells us about updating his People Move On album and the secret of producing bands. And TV’s Katie Puckrik joins us to talk over the BBC’s marathon Andy Warhol documentary, Years And Years’ bid for the big pop moment, and internet shaming in the remarkable Indonesian movie Photocopier.  “Football managers’ fashion sense has gone rapidly downhill…” — Bernard Butler “Andy Warhol predicted people as brands and influencers… He invented reality TV.” — Katie Puckrik “Warhol used to call his tape recorder his wife.” — Katie Puckrik “Night Call is a pop music panini: bland, smushed together and probably not that good for you.” — Katie Puckrik Written and presented by Siân Pattenden and Andrew Harrison. Producer Jelena Sofronijevic. Audio production by Alex Rees. Theme music: ‘Bunker Theme (Juntos Mix)’ by Kenny Dickinson. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. The Culture Bunker is a Podmasters production. Rolling playlist: https://bit.ly/CultBunk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Politicians don’t always give us what we want. So why do they get their decision-making so wrong? Polly Mackenzie is the Chief Executive of Demos and former Director of Policy to Deputy PM Nick Clegg. She talks to Ros Taylor about her report, The Humble Policy Maker, why we always think we’re right, how citizens can participate without dull consultations…and how a mouldy orange reveals what’s wrong with the technocracy today. “If you tell people not to act in their self-interest, you'll end up with a whole load more policy problems on your hands.” “The police is not the most important thing in keeping crime down, but our relationships with each other in society.” “Being a citizen is a big, hard job. It's only by participating that we can build up the democratic skillset that enables us to compromise.” “It's so easy to spend your life with people who are just like you.”  Presented by Ros Taylor. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producers: Jelena Sofronijevic and Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Rare, endangered animals are under attack from rich, powerful people who operate above the law. But this isn’t a story about illegal poaching in Africa, nor animals being hunted for Chinese medicines. This is happening in the UK. Arthur Snell talks to environmental activist Mark Avery, former RSPB conservation director, co-founder of Wild Justice, and author of Inglorious, about grouse shooting, who really owns our moorland, and ending the persecution of raptors. “These grouse moors are wildlife crime hotspots.”  “Grouse shooting is seen as a posh, sexy sport. But it's only a sport if the grouses have guns too.” “So many birds are being poisoned, shot, or disappeared on grouse moors that it's impossible to ignore anymore.” “If you ever see someone killing a bird of prey, know that that is illegal.”  https://www.patreon.com/bunkercastPresented by Arthur Snell. Assistant producers: Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Audio production by Alex Rees. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Productionhttps://markavery.info/books/inglorious-conflict-uplands-published-30-july/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Why is the NHS struggling so badly if Omicron is less severe than previous COVID wave? And how come the Government wants to tear up COVID testing and mass vaccination when hospitals are on the verge of being overwhelmed? Health commentator Roy Lilley joins us for a situation report on the pandemic. Plus, can Suella Braverman successfully turn the acquittal of the Colston Four into Culture War fuel? What are we giving up for January? And Michael Gove stars in Die Hard In A Lift.  “The NHS is running up the down escalator… It has no workforce plan, because it doesn’t even get to write its own plan.” – Roy Lilley “It’s interesting to see who’s raging at Djokovic being kept in the same ‘unacceptable’ conditions that actual refugees are kept in as a matter of course…” – Ahir Shah  “There are more NHS staff sick right now than there are soldiers in the UK army.” – Roy Lilley “Colston SHOULD set a precedent – that the State should listen to local communities when they want to get rid of these statues.” – Ayesha Hazarika https://www.patreon.com/bunkercastWritten and presented by Alex Andreou with Ayesha Hazarika and Ahir Shah. Producers: Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic . Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. Group editor: Andrew Harrison. The Bunker is a Podmasters production.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Government toys with pulling free lateral flow tests and mass vaccination. Are they giving in to the hard right CRG without a fight? Plus Liz Truss gets her first threat to trigger Article 16 in early, the horrific costs of Zero COVID in Xi’an in China, and auf wiedersehen to trial by jury. Naomi Smith and Justin Quirk set up the week ahead.  “Johnson being a liar and rule-breaker is completely baked in with voters.” “The simple fact is, Boris Johnson has lost his power over Cabinet.” “The story on Johnson is moving from ‘One rule for them, one for us’ to ‘They ain’t levelling us up.’” “If Liz Truss was your friend at school, you'd be telling her to play a bit harder to get.”  “Who had tennis meets obnoxious populism on their report card for 2022?” Presented by Justin Quirk and Naomi Smith. Producers Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Warning! Major spoilers! DO NOT listen unless you’ve already finished Sweet Bobby. How well do you know the person you love? The huge hit podcast Sweet Bobby charts a barely believable story of catfishing and psychological manipulation, in which a British woman called Kirat Assi discovers that her online romance is not what she thought. In a treat for all Bobby-heads, journalist and presenter Alexi Mostrous talks to Naomi Smith about uncovering this astonishing story. How did THAT PERSON do THAT THING and get away with it? And what did the experience do to the woman who lived it? “This story read like a novel that would have been rejected for being too unrealistic.” “It's easy to set up a fake Facebook profile. It's harder to set up 35 different phone numbers.” “Kirat's community wasn't just close, it was closed off.” https://www.tortoisemedia.com/listen/sweet-bobby/Written and presented by Naomi Smith. Producers: Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Audio production by Alex Rees. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hear all the music on our rolling playlist: https://bit.ly/CultBunkComedian and actor Omid Djalili joins us to talk about the joy of returning to touring (tickets available now!), taking Iranian visitors to see Chelsea FC when he was only six, and life as TV’s go-to Middle Eastern everyman. Screenwriter Kevin Sampson gives us the story behind his devastating Hillsborough drama Anne, about a mother’s fight for justice for her son. Plus the lost Bowie album Toy, The Tourist on BBC1 and much more. “When I first saw Bowie, it was like an alien had come down the chimney.” – Kevin Sampson “When you watch something in a live setting, it has a physiologically different effect on you.” – Omid Djalili “What TV can do is personalise the experience of human pain.” – Kevin Sampson “I always thought the ME in BAME must stand for Middle East…” – Omid Djalili Produced and presented by Siân Pattenden and Andrew Harrison. Assistant producer Jelena Sofronijevic. Audio production by Alex Rees. Theme music: ‘Bunker Theme (Juntos Mix)’ by Kenny Dickinson. The Culture Bunker is a Podmasters production. Rolling playlist: https://bit.ly/CultBunk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

How would you behave as the dictator of Turkmenistan? Are bad people the only ones who get power - or does power make people worse? Host of the Power Corrupts podcast – and friend of ours! – Professor Brian Klaas talks to Alex Andreou about their latest book, Corruptible, learning from ski lessons with the likes of Paul Bremer…and what’s wrong with police recruitment videos. “Serial killers are not successful psychopaths, because they couldn't hide it. They're the ones in the boardroom and the office.” “Flat societies are not the answer. Western hierarchical societies are some of the safest places for humans to live.” “Good governance costs, but it’s a price well worth paying.” “Power corrupts gradually. The longer someone is in office, the worse they will become.”   Presented by Alex Andreou. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producers: Jelena Sofronijevic and Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Productionhttps://brianpklaas.com/corruptible  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the UK the country’s falling out of love with Johnson, the economy’s in crisis and the Conservative government is falling apart. Around the world there are crunch elections in France, Brazil and Hungary… the threat of a nuclear Iran… and in the USA, a battle for the very existence of democracy. Arthur Snell, Justin Quirk and special guest Antonia Jennings from the Centre for Local Economic Strategies join Andrew Harrison to open the Pandora’s Box that is 2022. Hear our new series DOOMSDAY WATCH here: https://kite.link/doomsday “It’s been a stockpilers’ pandemic, and the LFT shortage proves they’re still ahead of the crowd.” – Arthur Snell “It’s time for Government to invest and stop worrying about the debt level.” – Antonia Jennings "The only thing left for the Democrats after the mid-terms is to save democracy.” – Arthur Snell “If Brazil runs a fair election, Bolsonaro’s out.” – Arthur Snell https://www.patreon.com/bunkercastWritten and presented by Andrew Harrison with Arthur Snell and Justin Quirk. Assistant producers: Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic . Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. Group editor: Andrew Harrison. The Bunker is a Podmasters production.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices