

The Practice of the Practice Podcast | Where Modern Psychology Meets the Business of Therapy
Joe Sanok | Private Practice Consultant, TEDx Speaker & Author of Thursday is the New Friday
Business growth meets the cutting edge of psychology. This podcast is for psychologists, therapists, counselors, coaches, and wellness professionals. It explores modern psychology and how it connects to building a thriving practice. Hosted by consultant and author Joe Sanok, it features conversations with leading academics, psychologists, business leaders, and mental health experts. Topics include psychedelic-assisted therapy, mindfulness, CBT, ACT, peak performance, and the future of mental health care. You’ll also hear clear strategies for marketing, streamlining your business, and scaling your private practice without burnout. Whether you want to sharpen your clinical skills, expand your perspective, or grow your impact, this podcast keeps you at the leading edge of mental health and practice growth.
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May 29, 2024 • 0sec
How to get federal government contracts for your practice with Dr. Ajita Robinson | POP 997
Are you looking for new information on which tools are out there today to help therapists in private practice? Did you know that you could get federal funding contracts? What […]
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May 28, 2024 • 0sec
Psychedelic Assisted Therapy Series: How to talk with your clients about psychedelic-assisted therapy with Dr. Elizabeth Nielson | POP 996
What should you discuss with your clients when it comes to psychedelic-assisted therapy? Which trainings are available for you to do now? What is the harm reduction framework and how […]
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May 23, 2024 • 34min
Psychedelic Assisted Therapy Series: The politics, access, and best practices of psychedelic therapy in the US and Europe with Justin Townsend | POP 995
What are the current laws in the US when it comes to psilocybin and MDMA? How many hours of training is recommended? What are some of the non-negotiable best practice […]
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May 22, 2024 • 39min
Psychedelic Assisted Therapy Series: Ayahuasca with Anonymous | POP 994
Have you heard about Ayahuasca? What does a typical Ayahuasca ceremony look like? How can Ayahuasca support a person’s growth and change? In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok discusses Ayahuasca […]
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May 21, 2024 • 34min
Psychedelic Assisted Therapy Series: Integrating Psychedelics with MAPS Trainee Concetta Troskie | POP 993
Do you have a client who has recently begun their psychedelic journey? Are you unclear about how to support them? What are the best practices for integrating a client’s psychedelic […]
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May 16, 2024 • 33min
Psychedelic Assisted Therapy Series: Ibogaine, PTSD, TBI and Trauma with Talia Eisenberg | POP 992
Are you looking for novel treatments for addiction? How can Ibogaine promote mental and physical health? What is the current state of Ibogaine research? In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok […]
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May 15, 2024 • 33min
Psychedelic Assisted Therapy Series: Running Psilocybin and Ketamine Groups with Carrie Haynes | POP 991
What are some of the overlapping benefits between group work and psychedelic medicine? In a group session of psychedelic-assisted therapy, what are the safeguards that you should always have in […]
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May 14, 2024 • 36min
Psychedelic Assisted Therapy Series: Psilocybin-Assisted Therapy Retreats and Training with Catherine Warnock | POP 990
What are the lifelong transformative changes that a person can experience at a professional psilocybin retreat? Why can undergoing a period of ego-dissolution be transformational to your understanding of your […]
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May 9, 2024 • 31min
Psychedelic Assisted Therapy Series: Using MDMA to overcome Trauma, Anxiety and Depression with Jonathan Robinson | POP 989
What do you think about psychedelic-assisted therapy? Are you nervous? How is MDMA-assisted therapy something powerful, positive, and helpful for all therapists to learn about? In the first podcast episode […]
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May 8, 2024 • 32min
Harvard Business Review Author: How to Easily Balance a Side Hustle and A Full-time Job with Elizabeth Grace Saunders | POP 988
What should you do so that you don’t lose your mind when you’re growing a side hustle while working a full-time job? What’s the trick to knowing where is the […]
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