

CFO THOUGHT LEADER
The Future of Finance is Listening
CFO THOUGHT LEADER is a podcast featuring firsthand accounts of finance leaders who are driving change within their organizations.
We share the career journey of our spotlighted CFO guest: What do they struggle with? How do they persevere? What makes them successful CFOs? CFO THOUGHT LEADER is all about inspiring finance professionals to take a leadership leap. We know that by hearing about the successes — (and yes, also the failures) — of others, today’s CFOs can more confidently chart their own leadership paths across the enterprise and take inspired action.
We share the career journey of our spotlighted CFO guest: What do they struggle with? How do they persevere? What makes them successful CFOs? CFO THOUGHT LEADER is all about inspiring finance professionals to take a leadership leap. We know that by hearing about the successes — (and yes, also the failures) — of others, today’s CFOs can more confidently chart their own leadership paths across the enterprise and take inspired action.
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Aug 3, 2025 • 52min
1118: Partnering for Growth: Finance Meets Customer-Centricity | Andrew Casey, CFO, Amplitude
Andrew Casey remembers a moment when colleagues truly looked to finance for leadership. At ServiceNow, a then‑$400 million company with little go‑to‑market infrastructure, the team faced a long list of missing elements: no functioning comp plan, no partner ecosystem, and no clear strategy for scaling sales. “Whenever people said they didn’t know how,” Casey recalls, “I started raising my hand and said, I don’t know either, but I know what we’re going to go do… and then we’re going to adjust as we go.” That willingness to lead through uncertainty became a turning point in his career.ServiceNow would grow from $400 million to $4.5 billion during his tenure, and colleagues still use the pricing and deal frameworks he created, he tells us. The experience cemented his approach: chase experiences, not titles, and transform finance into a partner that drives business outcomes.That mindset carried into his first CFO role at WalkMe in 2020, where, just two weeks in, COVID forced an immediate office shutdown. “We didn’t even have a work‑from‑home policy,” he tells us. The sudden disruption forced him to navigate crisis management, team alignment, and IPO preparation simultaneously.His journey through Sun Microsystems, Symantec, Oracle, HP, ServiceNow, and Lacework sharpened his ability to guide transformation and scale. Today, as CFO of Amplitude, Casey draws on those lessons to help a smaller public company grow with discipline. Each chapter—from being involved in 37 acquisitions at Oracle to steering turnarounds—reflects a career built on stepping into complexity, listening first, and leading change with confidence.

Jul 30, 2025 • 42min
1117: Building a Unicorn with a Finance Blueprint | Konstantin Dzhengozov, CFO, Payhawk
In this conversation, Konstantin Dzhengozov, the CFO of Payhawk and co-founder of Bulgaria's first unicorn, shares his journey from a corporate role in the U.S. to thriving in Bulgaria's dynamic startup scene. He discusses the challenges of building a finance team from scratch, the importance of a dual-revenue model, and how they tackled issues like poor data visibility. Dzhengozov also envisions AI transforming finance, enabling CFOs to make quicker, more informed decisions, while remaining dedicated to fostering business innovation.

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Jul 27, 2025 • 56min
1116: The CFO Who Thinks in Full Color | Dan Zhang, CFO, ClickUp
Dan Zhang, CFO of ClickUp, oversees diverse operations with a focus on integrating AI into productivity. She discusses how ClickUp's platform consolidates tools like project management and communication, revolutionizing work for over 4 million teams globally. Zhang highlights the explosive growth of ClickUp's AI capabilities and emphasizes a mindset of continuous evolution, viewing each day as a new beginning. She also reflects on her unique journey from journalism to finance, showcasing the blend of creativity and strategic vision in her approach to leadership.

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Jul 23, 2025 • 35min
Why Finance Teams Must Learn Faster Than Ever | Tim Vipond, Co-Founder, CEO of CFI
Tim Vipond, Co-founder and CEO of the Corporate Finance Institute, shares his journey from tackling complex financial models in mining to revolutionizing finance education online. He emphasizes the importance of real-world skills alongside theoretical knowledge. Discussing the integration of AI into courses, he highlights how CFI tailors certifications to current job markets, ensuring nearly 3 million students are workforce-ready. Vipond advocates for continuous learning, showcasing success stories that demonstrate the value of adapting finance teams to today’s rapid changes.

Jul 22, 2025 • 54min
1115: The Evolution of a Leader—One CFO Chapter at a Time | Lisa Cummins Dulchinos, CFO, Ayar Labs
Lisa Cummins Dulchinos, CFO of Ayar Labs, shares her journey bridging deep tech and finance. She discusses how her team, filled with tech experts, simplifies complex innovations like TeraPHY, a chip that enhances data transfer with lasers. Dulchinos emphasizes the long-term cost savings despite higher upfront costs, making the tech relatable. From navigating emotional intelligence in leadership to the transformative power of storytelling, she highlights essential skills for finance leaders in a rapidly evolving landscape.

Jul 16, 2025 • 45min
1114: Building a Smarter Funnel at Speed | Kevin Wall, CFO, Stax Payments
When Kevin Wall first stepped into industry from public accounting, it wasn’t by accident—it was through a client he already knew well. The company, in the midst of an ERP conversion and preparing to go public, saw in Wall someone who understood both their numbers and their needs. “They were familiar with me. I was familiar with them,” he tells us.That early pivot from audit into operational finance set the tone for a career defined by depth over speed. Wall spent 13 years at Alcatel-Lucent and a decade at FIS, climbing steadily while broadening his remit from general accounting to pricing, FP&A, and global finance operations. His longevity at these firms, he tells us, allowed him to “move and see new things under one roof” while growing his leadership footprint.Today, as CFO of Stax Payments, Wall is again stepping into transformation. The company, which serves over 40,000 SMBs and processes more than $20 billion in volume annually, is preparing to launch its own end-to-end processing engine. Wall’s priorities reflect a blend of commercial focus and operational precision: “It’s the top of the funnel,” he says, referencing lead generation, “and speed to revenue.”A self-described servant leader, Wall believes in “clearing obstacles” so teams can grow. That mindset also drove a past strategic move—reorganizing finance functions like billing and AP to other departments. It was a bold step, but one grounded in clarity: “Let’s really define what we want finance to be,” Wall tells us.

Jul 13, 2025 • 52min
1113: The Strategic Leap from Finance Partner to Business Architect: Josh Schauer, CFO, insightsoftware
When Josh Schauer joined Longview, a Toronto-based software company, he had no idea that a transformative chapter of his career was just a few years away. In 2020, Longview was acquired by insightsoftware—a turning point that brought both uncertainty and opportunity. “It’s kind of equal parts fear and optimism,” he tells us. “You wonder: Am I going to have a job coming out of this?”But his then-CFO advocated for him, making clear to the acquiring company, “they can’t lose you.” That moment, Schauer tells us, “swung the pendulum to the opportunistic side.”Rather than move on, Schauer leaned in—ultimately rising to become CFO of insightsoftware five years later. Today, he leads finance for a company that has completed 31 acquisitions and delivers AI-powered tools for CFOs—tools Schauer uses himself.Early in his career, a mentor CFO gave Schauer full ownership of budgeting, board reporting, and strategic analysis. That experience shaped his belief that finance is “a strategic operating partner.” It’s a mindset that drives his approach today, from implementing daily agile forecasting to integrating AI across functions.“We are an AI-first organization,” he explains, with AI liaisons and company-wide training supporting adoption. Though measuring ROI can be tricky, he sees clear returns in efficiency and insight.Still, he keeps people at the center: “Is the team taken care of? Do they feel engaged?” For a CFO who’s navigated acquisitions and transformation, Schauer tells us, team satisfaction remains one of his top priorities.

Jul 9, 2025 • 37min
1112: The Value of Seeing Finance from the Front Lines | Nathan Winters, CFO, Zebra Technologies
When Nathan Winters led a supply chain team earlier in his career, he noticed something that would shape his leadership style: “The credibility you get by the operating leaders when they see you out in the field… is incredibly important.” Whether visiting customers, walking a manufacturing floor, or sitting in on operating meetings, Winters found that physical presence fostered trust—and that trust gave finance a real seat at the table.Today, as CFO of Zebra Technologies, Winters continues to emphasize business partnership grounded in proximity to operations. In the four years since he stepped into the CFO seat, Zebra has weathered post-COVID surges, global supply chain disruptions, and enterprise restructuring. The company’s product footprint—often “hidden in plain sight,” from grocery checkout scanners to hospital wristbands—has expanded to include robotics and machine vision, Winters tells us.He’s also broadened his own remit, taking on IT and cybersecurity leadership, including oversight of both the CIO and CISO. In that time, Zebra has reduced China-based production from 80% to 30% and introduced new AI capabilities like “Zebra Companion” to automate shelf management for retailers. Internally, Zebra launched a private LLM instance—“Z-GPT”—to streamline tasks from expense report queries to sales presentations.“Your job isn’t to just close the books,” Winters tells us. “If you’re not analyzing… finding new ways to think about things… you’re getting passed up.” At Zebra, finance is not just a control function—it’s a strategic force embedded in every operational stride.

Jul 6, 2025 • 56min
1111: Inside the M&A Playbook: Why People Come First | James Redfern, CFO Reltio
Nearly a year into his CFO role at Reltio, James Redfern still feels like he’s catching up. “I’ve made some progress, but I’m definitely not where I… need to get,” he tells us. That steep learning curve was exactly what drew him to the company.Redfern didn’t find the Reltio opportunity through recruiters. Instead, it surfaced during a casual conversation with a mentor. “I was actually looking at something else,” he recalls. “And he said, ‘Oh, if you’re looking… I’m on the board of a company that’s looking for a CFO.’” That kind of personal connection—what Redfern calls “psychic safety”—has guided his last two career moves. It’s less about who you know casually, he tells us, and more about “people you actually have worked with.”At Reltio, Redfern stepped out of his comfort zone. After years in application-layer software companies like Workday and PayScale, he shifted into deep IT infrastructure. Reltio’s platform ensures enterprise data is clean and consistent across systems—a need made more urgent by the rise of AI. “You need a reliable, unified view of your data,” he explains. “One customer equals one customer—not three different customers in three different systems.”With 190 customers and $160 million in annual recurring revenue, Reltio works with some of the world’s largest enterprises. The company’s mission, Redfern tells us, is to replace legacy systems like Informatica and IBM with cloud-native data unification at scale.For Redfern, the attraction wasn’t the title. It was the challenge. “This is the kind of journey I committed myself to,” he says.

Jul 2, 2025 • 15min
The CFO Role in Scaling AI Curiosity
In this enlightening discussion, Brian Hogeland, CFO of Packer Fastener, explores the transformative role of AI in mid-market businesses. He and host Jack Sweeney reveal why the 'just try ChatGPT' mindset is outdated and emphasize the importance of practical AI investments. The conversation delves into how AI is reshaping traditional industries and the urgency for CFOs to evolve from basic experimentation to innovative implementation. Hogeland also touches on the future of AI and the critical need for collaborative strategies across finance and operations.