
The Bestseller Experiment
Join author and screenwriter Mark Stay with coach and entrepreneur Mark Desvaux, as they discover the secrets to writing a bestseller and challenge themselves and you to write, market and self-published a bestselling book in just one year. Each week, they are guided by and interview million-selling, chart-topping authors, publishers on the inside, editors, agents, social media specialists, and many more big names who play a part in the bestseller process. From the writing to marketing, plotting to publishing, learn the secrets to help you write your way to the top of the charts.
Latest episodes

Oct 24, 2022 • 1h 14min
EP410: Jenny Ashcroft — “Self-Perpetuating Support."
Jenny Ashcroft has always been fascinated with the past and how extraordinary events can change the lives of ordinary people. With her new novel, The Echoes of Love, Jenny takes us to Crete in 1936, and she reveals her best resources for researching and writing historical fiction. And Jenny talks about finding your writing peers and supporting one another (and why your family probably won’t understand what you’re doing!). And in the extended version for Patreons and Academates, the two Marks discuss the relationship between authors, agents and publishers, writing for the fun of it, how research can unearth unexpected nuggets and much more!

Oct 17, 2022 • 1h 6min
EP409: Sixth Birthday Special — How to Make a Podcast
The two Marks celebrate six years of the podcast by giving their listeners a peek behind the scenes to see how a weekly podcast is made, and our editors Dave and JD offer tips for anyone who’s thinking of starting their own podcast, and they spill the beans on what doesn’t make it into the show.

Oct 12, 2022 • 48min
EP408: Deep Dive — ADHD and Writers with Kim Raine
Kim Raine is a High-Performance ADHD Coach, and the founder of ADHD Brains In Business, and she's the author of the Amazon bestseller Square Pegs: A book of Self-discovery for women with ADHD. Kim answers our listener questions on Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder and how it affects creatives and offers strategies on how to work with your brain rather than against it. Deep Dives are normally exclusive for our Patrons and Academates, but we’ve made this one available to all.

Oct 10, 2022 • 1h 9min
EP407: CL Taylor — “Trust Your Gut"
We welcome Sunday Times bestselling author CL Taylor back to the podcast with her new novel The Guilty Couple. In an interview packed with amazing advice, she takes us step-by-step through her creative process, from first idea to finished novel. And in the extended version for Patreons and Academates, the two Marks discuss wants, needs and flaws, fear of the first page, tips for using notebooks and much more!

Oct 3, 2022 • 1h 14min
EP406: Scott Turow — “Plot is a Species of Character."
Scott Turow is a master of suspense fiction. He returns with his new thriller, Suspect, and tells us about the challenges of taking a minor character from a previous novel and putting them front and centre of their own story. He also describes how he uses plot to test and reveal his characters. Scott also takes us through his extraordinary career, from writing Presumed Innocent on his commute, to fighting for the rights of authors as President of the Authors Guild. And in the extended version for Patreons and Academates, the two Marks discuss plot as a species of character, political writing, social media, being different to our parents, working with editors, and why authors need to value themselves more than they do, and much more!

Sep 29, 2022 • 11min
EP405: Deep Dive — TikTok with Suzie Edge
Suzie Edge has nearly 250,000 followers on TikTok with nearly 5.5m likes. Suzie tells us what she’s discovered in using the app over three years and how it’s been driving pre-orders for her new book Mortal Monarchs. We discuss what kinds of content attracts followers, and why authors are perfect for TikTok because we tell stories... Please note that this episode was recorded before the death of Queen Elizabeth II, so do please bear that in mind when you hear myself and Suzie discussing her new book Mortal Monarchs, which dives into the deaths of British royals over the centuries.

Sep 26, 2022 • 1h 11min
EP404: Aggie Blum Thompson — “I Had No Plan B"
Aggie Blum Thompson sent us an email in 2019 detailing her dream to see her book on a table in a bookstore. Aggie’s second novel, ALL THE DIRTY SECRETS, is out now and she tells us how she made that dream a reality. This is a hugely entertaining interview and Aggie reveals how she bounced back when things didn’t turn out as planned.

Sep 18, 2022 • 1h 3min
EP403: Luan Goldie — “There’s Always Time"
Luan Goldie won the Costa Short Story Prize in 2017, and her debut novel Nightingale Point was longlisted for the Women’s Prize for Fiction. Her latest novel, These Streets, touches on issues of homelessness, mental health, and single parent families, and is full of warmth, wit and life. Luan tells us how she's balanced working as a teacher and a writer and how she’s developed a discipline to write, no matter what real life throws at her.

Sep 12, 2022 • 1h 7min
EP402: Lesley Thomson — “Stay Inside Your Story"
Lesley Thomson's latest book The Companion continues a bestselling streak that’s been inspired by some remarkable places and people, and she shares with us her writing routines and tells us why writers should stay within their own story. And the Two Marks give listeners a peek behind the scenes of their recent live show and how it all nearly went horribly wrong.

Sep 5, 2022 • 1h 18min
EP401: Live Show Highlights — Is Being an Author a Job For Life?
We celebrate over 400 episodes of the podcast with a special live show from Waterstones in Canterbury with guest authors Rowan Coleman, Pernille Hughes, Nadine Matheson and Julie Wassmer. We discuss how authors can sustain their careers beyond the advance and publication date. This was a fun and lively conversation that demystifies a lot of the myths around the life of an author. Please note: the sound has been expertly remixed by our editor JD, so if the Youtube version made your ears hurt, this version is much more pleasing on the ears.