
Plain Talk
Plain Talk is a podcast hosted by Rob Port and Chad Oban focusing on political news and current events in North Dakota. Port is a columnist for the Forum News Service published in papers including the Fargo Forum, Grand Forks Herald, Jamestown Sun, and the Dickinson Press. Oban is a long-time political consultant.
Latest episodes

May 5, 2021 • 1h 12min
225: Ed Schafer on legislative session, Trump divisions, and Legacy Fund
Ed Schafer helped usher in the current era of Republican dominance in North Dakota when he was elected Governor back in the early 1990s. How does he feel about the Trump era, and the strife and faction now dividing his party? We'll talk about it on this episode of Plain Talk Live. Also, the Governor weighs in on the just-completed legislative session, the battles between the legislative branch and the executive branch under current Governor Doug Burgum, as well as his thoughts on the way the Legacy Fund is being used.

May 4, 2021 • 48min
224: Is support for Trump a litmus test for Republicans?
Some Republicans in the U.S. House want Rep. Liz Cheney, the GOP's conference chair and the third-ranking Republican in the chamber, to go over her criticism of former President Donald Trump. Trump supporters are even attacking House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, pointing out his living arrangement with prominent consultant Frank Luntz. Is any work getting done in the House amid all this in-fighting? Can Republicans effectively rebut the Democrats' agenda when they're busying throwing pies at one another? Also, the Biden administration has finally conceded that the Dakota Access Pipeline should continue to operate during a court-ordered review, earmark spending is making a comeback, and federal legislation addressing civil asset forfeiture may be on the way. Congressman Kelly Armstrong will discuss the problems in his caucus and these other topics on this episode of Plain Talk.

May 3, 2021 • 22min
Jay Thomas Show 05-03-21
Rob and Jay talk headlines including COVID-19 vaccines and what happened at the Legislature

May 3, 2021 • 38min
223: Do vaccine selfies bother you?
Do vaccination selfies, or other types of posts people make on social media indicating they've received a COVID-19 vaccine, bother you? Some are irate about them. Some want them to stop. Rob and Jay Thomas, talk show host for WDAY AM970 in Fargo, talk about that and other headlines and issues heading into a new week.

Apr 30, 2021 • 1h 1min
222: The Bastiat Caucus and the fracturing of the NDGOP
The North Dakota Republican Party is, without question, the dominant political organization in the state. The Democrats hold no statewide offices. They haven't held a majority in either of the Legislature's chambers since the Clinton administration. They haven't held a statewide executive branch office since the dawn of the Obama administration. Starting in 2010, the Democrats began losing their control of the state's congressional delegation, culminating in former Senator Heidi Heitkamp losing control of a Senate seat that had been home to a Democrat since the Eisenhower administration. But, despite that dominance, the NDGOP's coalition is showing some cracks. In the Legislature, the secretive and controversial Bastiat Caucus has begun to define itself as the true protectors of the state's conservative movement and the NDGOP platform. Activists aligned with the caucus to one degree or another have, this year, launched a campaign to take over control of NDGOP district organizations, and perhaps ultimately the state party itself. Perhaps one of the most visible members of the Bastiat Caucus, Rep. Jeff Hoverson of Minot, who said he doesn't even belong to the Republican caucus in the state House, joins this episode of Plain Talk to discuss the movement.

Apr 29, 2021 • 46min
221: What's the future of the Democratic-NPL?
The North Dakota Democratic-NPL has been out of power in North Dakota for about two generations. They haven't held the governorship since the early 1990s. They haven't held a statewide executive branch office since 2009, or a majority in either chamber in the Legislature since 1994. Until 2010, the state's entire congressional delegation were members of the Democratic-NPL, as of 2018 those seats are now all held by Republicans. The party holds just 7 seats in the state Senate, and only 14 in the House. How can they turn it around? Zach Raknerud was the unsuccessful Democratic-NPL candidate for U.S. House in 2020, and he's currently running to be a committeeman for the party in 2021. He joins this episode of Plain Talk Live to talk about his party, its past, and what he believes could be its future.

Apr 28, 2021 • 1h 1min
220: Previewing the State of the Union
President Joe Biden is set to deliver his first State of the Union address to a country that is still reeling from the COVID-19 pandemic and deeply divided in just about every way a society can be divided. From environmental issues to infrastructure to immigration, can he map out a policy agenda that brings people together to solve real problems? Rob Port and University of North Dakota professor of political science Bo Wood discuss on this episode of Plain Talk Live. Also, North Dakota's legislative session is due to be wrapped up this week. Governor Doug Burgum has signed a raft of pro-gun bills, and declared North Dakota a 2nd Amendment "sanctuary state." Meanwhile, the U.S. Supreme Court has agreed to take up an important gun rights case. What could that mean for guns and self in America?

Apr 27, 2021 • 37min
219: North Dakota vs. Minnesota on law enforcement use of force
Thanks to high-profile cases, including the death of George Floyd, Minnesota has become an epicenter in the political battle over the use of force by law enforcement. As a result, the state has created new use of force laws, and they're not sitting well with some in law enforcement. Cass County Sheriff Jesse Jahner, whose North Dakota jurisdiction bumps up against Minnesota's border, recently wrote a letter to Minnesota Governor Tim Walz asking him to exempt North Dakota cops from the new law so that they can continue to render assistance across the border. Sheriff Jahner joins this episode of Plain Talk Live to discuss Minnesota's law, the problems he sees it posing to North Dakota law enforcement and the issue of the use of force by law enforcement in general.

Apr 26, 2021 • 23min
Jay Thomas Show 04-26-21
Rob and Jay talk about the end of the Legislative session, including the debate over a Buffalo-themed amusement park in Jamestown.

Apr 26, 2021 • 36min
218: Sober rides, firefighters, and a state-funded amusement park?
In March the State of North Dakota implemented a truly innovative bit of public policy. With some grant money from the AAA Foundation, Governor Doug Burgum's administration launched the Sober Ride program, which provided $10 vouchers for Lyft rides between the hours of 5:00 p.m. and 2:00 a.m. The result? In March, some 800 presumably impaired drivers got rides home, and the total cost was just $8,000. Far less than taxpayers would have paid for one DUI checkpoint, or to put one DUI offender through the criminal justice system. Should this program continue? Should it be expanded? Also, the 2021 legislative session is wrapping up, but there's still a lot of issues to settle and budgets to finalize. Rob and talk radio host Jay Thomas from WDAY 970 AM discuss on this episode of Plain Talk Live.