

Investing Unscripted
Jason Hall and Jeff Santoro
This is The Investing Unscripted Podcast, where we ask the questions that matter to investors.
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Jan 1, 2025 • 53min
135. 2025 and Beyond
The hosts reflect on the past year's investment journeys and evolving strategies, emphasizing a move towards more conservative investments. They dive into tax loss harvesting tactics and the emotional nuances of selling underperforming stocks. Long-term financial goals and the balance between growth and dividend stocks take center stage as they outline actionable steps for 2025. The discussion also highlights the importance of pensions and the benefits of consulting with financial advisors for better retirement planning.

Dec 28, 2024 • 1h 10min
Replay: 84. Reckless Predictions for 2024
Join financial experts Simon Erickson, founder of 7Investing, and Ryan Henderson & Brett Schafer, co-hosts of Chit Chat Money, for a lively discussion on reckless predictions for 2024. They reflect humorously on past forecasts and dive into bold insights about tech stocks, the EV market rivalry between Tesla and Ford, and the potential seismic shifts in the housing market. The trio also tackles intriguing economic forecasts, exploring the impact of rising interest rates and geopolitical tensions. It's a fun blend of laughs and investment wisdom!

Dec 25, 2024 • 1h 6min
134. John Rotonti’s Search for Quality and Value
In this discussion, John Rotonti, a seasoned investor with a rich background from The Motley Fool, shares his fresh insights as he embarks on a new role at Islamorada Investment Management. He delves into his value investing philosophy and the focus of his new fund on industrials, infrastructure, and housing. John emphasizes the significance of free cash flow and historical context in investment decisions. Plus, he throws in some bold predictions for 2025—definitely a must-listen for aspiring investors!

Dec 18, 2024 • 51min
133. December 2024 Mailbag
In the December mailbag, Jason and Jeff dive into their final Q&A session for 2024, sharing insights on feeling rich versus poor, the risks of quantum computing to Bitcoin, and whether Lindy is a commodity business. The hosts also unveil plans for the 2025 portfolio contest. Have a question for a future mailbag? Send them to us at any time!
01:12 Welcome to the Last Q&A of the Year
03:22 Discussing Market Valuations and Investment Strategies
13:26 Balancing Saving and Spending: Listener Questions
26:14 Quantum Computing and Bitcoin Security
30:38 Diversification and Financial Exposure
31:06 QuantumScape and Investment Strategies
32:16 The Role of ASML in Modern Technology
34:17 Understanding Lindy's Industrial Gas Business
43:12 2025 Portfolio Contest
50:15 Wrapping Up and Final Thoughts
Companies mentioned: ASAN, ASML, BOC, LIN, NVDA, OM, QS, TDOC, ZM
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*A Bond Account is a self-directed brokerage account with Public Investing, member FINRA/SIPC. Deposits into this account are used to purchase 10 investment-grade and high-yield bonds. As of 9/26/24, the average, annualized yield to worst (YTW) across the Bond Account is greater than 6%. A bond’s yield is a function of its market price, which can fluctuate; therefore, a bond’s YTW is not “locked in” until the bond is purchased, and your yield at time of purchase may be different from the yield shown here. The “locked in” YTW is not guaranteed; you may receive less than the YTW of the bonds in the Bond Account if you sell any of the bonds before maturity or if the issuer defaults on the bond. Public Investing charges a markup on each bond trade. See our Fee Schedule (https://public.com/disclosures/fee-schedule). Bond Accounts are not recommendations of individual bonds or default allocations. The bonds in the Bond Account have not been selected based on your needs or risk profile. See https://public.com/disclosures/bond-account to learn more..
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Dec 14, 2024 • 13min
Stocks Unscripted: Costco (COST)
We're trying something new! We want to have unscripted conversations about specific stocks. In this episode, we're talking about Costco and how Jeff really wants to buy shares but feels they're too expensive.
Let us know what you think about this new show idea!
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00:00 Introduction and New Format Announcement
01:10 Discussing Costco: A Stock to Watch
02:56 Costco's Business Model and Market Position
04:37 Personal Experiences and Anecdotes
06:45 Valuation Concerns and Investment Strategy
12:15 Conclusion and Call for Feedback

Dec 11, 2024 • 1h 8min
132. Reckless Predictions 2025
In this episode, Jason and Jeff reflect on their 2024 market predictions, analyzing what they got right and where they went wrong. While reviewing 2024 predictions by guests Simon Erickson from 7Investing and Ryan and Brett from Chit Chat Stocks, they dive into their bold forecasts for Amazon, Cybertruck, home prices, and the Mag 7 stocks. They also share their best and worst investments of the year and forecast stocks to buy and avoid in 2025. Finally, they make their reckless predictions for the year ahead.
02:31 Reflecting on Last Year's Predictions
02:55 The Nature of Predictions and Planning
04:02 Biases in Investing and Predictions
07:21 Reviewing Last Year's Guests and Predictions
09:05 Brett's Prediction: Amazon's Market Cap
12:07 Simon's Prediction: Cybertruck vs. F-150 Lightning
18:48 Simon's Prediction: FinTech vs. Traditional Banks
24:09 Ryan's Prediction: Magnificent Seven Stocks
30:02 Ryan's Other Predictions: Match Group and Home Prices
32:31 Host Predictions and Reflections
33:42 Reflecting on Past Predictions
34:18 Elon Musk's Bold Moves and Predictions
36:08 Reckless Predictions and Market Speculations
37:49 Portfolio Performance and Live Stream Plans
39:18 Market Surprises and Economic Reflections
44:56 Best and Worst Investments of 2024
52:18 Stock Picks and Avoids for 2025
01:01:35 Reckless Predictions for 2025
Companies mentioned: AAPL, AFRM, AMZN, BAC, C, CELH, ENPH, F, GM, GOOG, INTC, JPM, KNSL, MSFT, MTCH, NVDA, OM, SBUX, SOFI, SPG, STEM, TSLA, UPST, X
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Investing Unscripted is brought to you by Public.com* Visit https://public.com/investingunscripted
*A Bond Account is a self-directed brokerage account with Public Investing, member FINRA/SIPC. Deposits into this account are used to purchase 10 investment-grade and high-yield bonds. As of 9/26/24, the average, annualized yield to worst (YTW) across the Bond Account is greater than 6%. A bond’s yield is a function of its market price, which can fluctuate; therefore, a bond’s YTW is not “locked in” until the bond is purchased, and your yield at time of purchase may be different from the yield shown here. The “locked in” YTW is not guaranteed; you may receive less than the YTW of the bonds in the Bond Account if you sell any of the bonds before maturity or if the issuer defaults on the bond. Public Investing charges a markup on each bond trade. See our Fee Schedule (https://public.com/disclosures/fee-schedule). Bond Accounts are not recommendations of individual bonds or default allocations. The bonds in the Bond Account have not been selected based on your needs or risk profile. See https://public.com/disclosures/bond-account to learn more..
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Dec 7, 2024 • 1h 5min
First Fridays 14: December 2024
In the December 2024 Livestream, Jeff and Jason take questions and engage with their audience in real-time. Jason reveals that Jeff's portfolio outperformed his, as per his prediction, with detailed insights into their investment strategies involving cash, bonds, and stocks. The show includes discussions on AI, the resurgence of Bitcoin, and the potential of cryptocurrency. The duo wraps up the episode with a fun holiday-themed segment, debating the best and worst Christmas songs.
02:23 Introduction and Welcoming Viewers
03:42 Portfolio Contest Update
06:15 Market Reactions Post-Election
10:50 Short Selling and Stock Valuation
16:41 DocuSign and Stock-Based Compensation
22:16 AI Trends and Future Outlook
38:16 Bitcoin Hits $100,000: Discussion and Insights
39:41 Crypto Use Cases and Market Dynamics
49:27 Reckless Predictions for 2025
57:13 Holiday Fun and Christmas Songs
Companies mentioned: AAPL, AMZN, BEP, CRM, DOCU, LMND, MSFT, NVDA, SQ
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Investing Unscripted is brought to you by Public.com*
*A Bond Account is a self-directed brokerage account with Public Investing, member FINRA/SIPC. Deposits into this account are used to purchase 10 investment-grade and high-yield bonds. As of 9/26/24, the average, annualized yield to worst (YTW) across the Bond Account is greater than 6%. A bond’s yield is a function of its market price, which can fluctuate; therefore, a bond’s YTW is not “locked in” until the bond is purchased, and your yield at time of purchase may be different from the yield shown here. The “locked in” YTW is not guaranteed; you may receive less than the YTW of the bonds in the Bond Account if you sell any of the bonds before maturity or if the issuer defaults on the bond. Public Investing charges a markup on each bond trade. See our Fee Schedule (https://public.com/disclosures/fee-schedule). Bond Accounts are not recommendations of individual bonds or default allocations. The bonds in the Bond Account have not been selected based on your needs or risk profile. See https://public.com/disclosures/bond-account to learn more.
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Find the 2024 Portfolio Contest here:
https://tinyurl.com/2024contest
Find the 2023 Portfolio Contest here:
https://tinyurl.com/Smatterfolio2023

Dec 4, 2024 • 56min
131. Market Rally 2025 (Euphoric Music)
In this episode Jason and Jeff discuss strategies for navigating a historic bull market. They explore the impact of Federal Reserve rate cuts on yields and the opportunities available with bond accounts. The discussion then shifts to the importance of using frameworks for better decision-making, the concept of rebalancing portfolios, and the nuances of handling cash during exuberant markets. They also touch on individual stock assessments, managing large portfolio positions, and the balance between multiple expansion and business growth.
01:12 Welcome to Investing Unscripted
02:02 The Bull Market of 2025: A Thought Exercise
03:41 Navigating Market Uncertainty
07:17 Frameworks for Investing Decisions
25:26 The Role of Cash in Your Portfolio
30:52 Understanding Stock Growth and Valuation
31:34 Evaluating Company Performance
32:31 Examples of Stock Analysis: SoFi and Lemonade
34:10 The Importance of a Thoughtful Investment Process
35:47 Revisiting Lemonade's Market Performance
36:39 The Role of Market Sentiment in Stock Valuation
37:40 Strategies for Handling Market Volatility
42:14 Rebalancing Your Investment Portfolio
45:47 Practical Tips for Rebalancing
46:30 Tax Implications of Rebalancing
47:54 The Benefits of Quarterly Rebalancing
51:01 Reflecting on Investment Strategies
54:24 Final Thoughts and Stock Picks
Companies mentioned: BBY, BRK.A, BRK.B, COST, CRWD, LMND, MELI, NVDA, QS, SOFI, TGT, WMT
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Email: investingunscripted@gmail.com
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Check out our YouTube channel for more content:
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Investing Unscripted is brought to you by Public.com* Visit https://public.com/investingunscripted
*A Bond Account is a self-directed brokerage account with Public Investing, member FINRA/SIPC. Deposits into this account are used to purchase 10 investment-grade and high-yield bonds. As of 9/26/24, the average, annualized yield to worst (YTW) across the Bond Account is greater than 6%. A bond’s yield is a function of its market price, which can fluctuate; therefore, a bond’s YTW is not “locked in” until the bond is purchased, and your yield at time of purchase may be different from the yield shown here. The “locked in” YTW is not guaranteed; you may receive less than the YTW of the bonds in the Bond Account if you sell any of the bonds before maturity or if the issuer defaults on the bond. Public Investing charges a markup on each bond trade. See our Fee Schedule (https://public.com/disclosures/fee-schedule). Bond Accounts are not recommendations of individual bonds or default allocations. The bonds in the Bond Account have not been selected based on your needs or risk profile. See https://public.com/disclosures/bond-account to learn more..
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https://tinyurl.com/2024contest
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https://tinyurl.com/Smatterfolio2023

Nov 27, 2024 • 53min
130. November 2024 Mailbag
In this mailbag episode, Jason and Jeff address listener questions about choosing when to hold or sell underperforming stocks, optimizing time for investment research, and balancing risk in a diversified portfolio. The show also dives into the impact of potential tariff changes and Federal Reserve rate pauses on REITs. And then there is an important discussion about Thanksgiving leftovers!
01:12 Welcome to Investing Unscripted
02:30 Mailbag Episode: Listener Questions
04:51 Financial Education in Public Schools
11:28 Top 10 Stocks for 18-Year-Olds
16:11 Adding to Winners: Strategy and Risks
25:34 Balancing Research Time as an Investor
28:24 Optimizing Investment Strategies
28:52 Joe's Investment Journey
29:50 Deciding When to Sell
32:16 The Never Sell Strategy
37:32 High Slugging Percentage vs. Batting Average
43:57 REITs and Interest Rates
48:38 Spam Comment of the Month
50:09 Thanksgiving Leftovers and Gratitude
53:02 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Companies mentioned: AAPL, AMZN, BIP, BEP, BOC, CMG, EPR, KNSL, LMND, LOB, MSFT, SE, SKT, SQ, UPST
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Check out our YouTube channel for more content:
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To get 15% off any paid plan at finchat.io, visit https://finchat.io/unscripted
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Investing Unscripted is brought to you by Public.com* Visit https://public.com/investingunscripted
*A Bond Account is a self-directed brokerage account with Public Investing, member FINRA/SIPC. Deposits into this account are used to purchase 10 investment-grade and high-yield bonds. As of 9/26/24, the average, annualized yield to worst (YTW) across the Bond Account is greater than 6%. A bond’s yield is a function of its market price, which can fluctuate; therefore, a bond’s YTW is not “locked in” until the bond is purchased, and your yield at time of purchase may be different from the yield shown here. The “locked in” YTW is not guaranteed; you may receive less than the YTW of the bonds in the Bond Account if you sell any of the bonds before maturity or if the issuer defaults on the bond. Public Investing charges a markup on each bond trade. See our Fee Schedule (https://public.com/disclosures/fee-schedule). Bond Accounts are not recommendations of individual bonds or default allocations. The bonds in the Bond Account have not been selected based on your needs or risk profile. See https://public.com/disclosures/bond-account to learn more..
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Find the 2024 Portfolio Contest here:
https://tinyurl.com/2024contest
Find the 2023 Portfolio Contest here:
https://tinyurl.com/Smatterfolio2023

Nov 20, 2024 • 56min
129. How to Money, Unscripted
In this episode of Investing Unscripted, Jason and Jeff welcome Joel from the How to Money podcast. They discuss the journey to financial wisdom, the influence of early experiences on Joel’s money mindset, and the importance of finding a balance between enjoying life and saving for the future. Joel shares insights on starting early with investing, the psychology of money, and the value of learning from mistakes.
You can check out the How to Money Podcast wherever you get your podcasts, or visit their website here: https://www.howtomoney.com/
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Investing Unscripted is brought to you by Public.com* Visit https://public.com/investingunscripted
*A Bond Account is a self-directed brokerage account with Public Investing, member FINRA/SIPC. Deposits into this account are used to purchase 10 investment-grade and high-yield bonds. As of 9/26/24, the average, annualized yield to worst (YTW) across the Bond Account is greater than 6%. A bond’s yield is a function of its market price, which can fluctuate; therefore, a bond’s YTW is not “locked in” until the bond is purchased, and your yield at time of purchase may be different from the yield shown here. The “locked in” YTW is not guaranteed; you may receive less than the YTW of the bonds in the Bond Account if you sell any of the bonds before maturity or if the issuer defaults on the bond. Public Investing charges a markup on each bond trade. See our Fee Schedule (https://public.com/disclosures/fee-schedule). Bond Accounts are not recommendations of individual bonds or default allocations. The bonds in the Bond Account have not been selected based on your needs or risk profile. See https://public.com/disclosures/bond-account to learn more..
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https://tinyurl.com/2024contest
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