

Mind Matters
Discovery Institute Center on Natural and Artificial Intelligence
On the Mind Matters podcast, Discovery Institute’s Walter Bradley Center for Natural and Artificial Intelligence considers the implications and misconceptions, the opportunities and limitations, and the applications and challenges presented by intelligent agents and their algorithms. Episode notes and archives available at mindmatters.ai/podcast.
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Sep 7, 2023 • 34min
When the Government Controls the Spectrum
The federal government determines how the radio spectrum is used and who can use it. Turns out, renting out the spectrum to private companies is a billion-dollar business. The spectrum business goes to the highest bidder. But what problems does that pose in the long run? Google engineer Andrew Clegg discusses this and more with Dr. Robert J. Marks and Read More ›
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Aug 31, 2023 • 1h 4min
Why You Are Non-Computable
Usually Robert Marks does the interviewing, but today, the script is flipped. In this episode, we revisit the press tour Dr. Marks went on to promote the seminal ideas of his 2022 book Non-Computable You: What You Do That Artificial Intelligence Never Will, which is about artificial intelligence and the non-computable traits (like creativity and emotional sentience) that make human beings unique. Additional Read More ›
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Aug 24, 2023 • 40min
Can the Radio Spectrum Ever “Fill Up”?
Right now, there are electromagnetic signals bouncing off and passing through you. But what happens when the radio spectrum gets overused and starts filling up? That’s the question addressed in today’s episode with Robert J. Marks, research scientist Austin Egbert, and special guest, Google engineer Andrew Clegg. Resources
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Aug 17, 2023 • 40min
Defining and Discussing the Radio Spectrum
The podcast discusses the radio spectrum, its frequencies, and their uses in various applications like cell phones and radars. They debunk the myth of cell phones causing brain cancer and examine the radio energy exposure of earbuds. The chapter also explores cell phone safety, government surveillance, and the leakage of radio frequencies from microwave ovens.

Aug 10, 2023 • 26min
Can AI Mimic Spontaneous Jazz and the Blues?
AI is getting better at imitating music and complex audio. But what are the limits, and what makes music like jazz and “the blues” unique? In this episode, Robert J. Marks sits down with musician James Hirsen to talk about AI deep fakes, its impact on the arts, and the personal aspect of music that makes it so special. Additional Read More ›
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Aug 3, 2023 • 50min
Discussing the Cartesian Error
What impact did the ideas of the philosopher René Descartes have on our modern conception of the mind/body problem? In today’s episode, neurosurgeon Michael Egnor digs deeper into his conversation with Dr. Joshua Farris, discussing Thomistic dualism, materialistic explanations for consciousness, and the inevitability of metaphysics. Additional Resources
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Jul 27, 2023 • 28min
The Sound of Freedom: How Human Trafficking and Porn Compromises National Security
Robert J. Marks and Charlie Crockett discuss how the normalization of online pornography is connected with sex trafficking and abuse. In fact, the two industries are inextricably linked. They also discuss how military communications are affected by the widespread use of porn because of the high demand for spectrum (a limited resource). Additional Resources
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Jul 20, 2023 • 20min
The Sound of Freedom: Social Media and Human Trafficking
Robert J. Marks and Charlie Crockett continue their conversation on the sad reality of human trafficking. In this episode, they focus particularly on how social media has become a place where predators will search and highlight children’s vulnerabilities — which so many young people share online. Marks and Crockett encourage parents to develop relationships of trust with their children and Read More ›
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Jul 13, 2023 • 24min
The Sound of Freedom: Human Trafficking In your Own Back Yard
Robert Marks speaks on the difficult topic of human trafficking with his guest Charlie Crockett, who works with the anti-trafficking advocacy organization Unbound Now. Human trafficking is the fastest-growing criminal industry in the world and goes undetected all over the U.S. Marks and Crockett talk about the scope of the problem, common misconceptions about trafficking, and how to help victims in need. Read More ›
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Jul 6, 2023 • 32min
Neuroscience, the Mind, and Theism
Neurosurgeon Michael Egnor, known for his insights on the brain and the immaterial mind, joins anthropologist Dr. Joshua Farris, who delves into the philosophical and theological implications of consciousness. They engage in a fascinating exploration of Descartes' dualism and its ongoing relevance in modern thought. The pair also tackle the intricate relationship between faith and certainty, questioning how beliefs shape our understanding of existence. Their discussion blends neuroscience with profound philosophical inquiry, making for an enlightening exchange.