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Discovery Institute Center on Natural and Artificial Intelligence
On the Mind Matters podcast, Discovery Institute’s Walter Bradley Center for Natural and Artificial Intelligence considers the implications and misconceptions, the opportunities and limitations, and the applications and challenges presented by intelligent agents and their algorithms. Episode notes and archives available at mindmatters.ai/podcast.
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Oct 23, 2025 • 24sec
Recognizing the Divine in Others: More with Dr. Stephen Post
If many of us began to practice honoring others in our interactions with them, what change would we see in society? Is it possible to recognize the divine in everyone we meet? On this episode, host Dr. Michael Egnor concludes his conversation with Dr. Stephen Post, author of the new book Pure Unlimited Love: Science and the Seven Paths to Inner Read More ›
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Oct 16, 2025 • 25sec
Restoring Love and Community in a Divided World: A Conversation with Dr. Stephen Post
Most of us would agree that in recent years, our society has grown more acrimonious, reactive, and violent. What role does technology play in this trajectory? And what can be done about it? On this episode, host Dr. Michael Egnor speaks to Dr. Stephen Post, author of the new book Pure Unlimited Love: Science and the Seven Paths to Inner Peace. Read More ›
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Oct 9, 2025 • 16sec
Love, Lies, and Algorithms: The Dangers of Relational AI
Today, we hear from Discovery Institute Senior Fellow, podcaster, and writer Andrew McDiarmid as he chats with In The Market radio host Janet Parshall about the dangers associated with humans having relationships with AI. The discussion focuses on what McDiarmid calls “relational AI” – AI chatbots and assistants that aim to mimic human interactions and relationships. McDiarmid discusses how relational AI can Read More ›
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Oct 2, 2025 • 35sec
The Challenge of Definitively Proving Creativity in AI
On this episode, host Robert J. Marks concludes his conversation with Dr. Georgios Mappouras about his new and interesting paper “Turing Test 2.0: The General Intelligence Threshold.” Here, Mappouras contrasts his newly proposed Turing test with the Lovelace Test, proposed by Selmer Bringsjord of Rensselaer Polytechnic, which says that “Computers will be creative if and when their output is beyond Read More ›
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Sep 25, 2025 • 1sec
Dr. Eric Jones: The Case for a Relational View of Personhood
“No man is an island,” wrote poet John Donne in the 1600s, and these words still ring true today. However, much of our modern analysis and study of ourselves is turned entirely within. We focus on our needs, wants, and abilities rather than how we interact with others. How much does this individualistic view limit our ability to understand ourselves Read More ›
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Sep 18, 2025 • 29sec
A New Test to Measure Understanding in AI Models
On this episode of Mind Matters News, host Robert J. Marks continues his conversation with Dr. Georgios Mappouras about his new and interesting paper “Turing Test 2.0: The General Intelligence Threshold.” The idea is whether or not AI is intelligent, and the classical definitions of this come from the Turing Test. In Part 1 of this conversation, Dr. Mappouras explained Read More ›
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Sep 11, 2025 • 35sec
Turing Test 2.0: A Better Way to Test Machine Intelligence?
On this episode of Mind Matters News, host Robert J. Marks speaks with Dr. Georgios Mappouras about his proposal for a more rigorous test for measuring artificial intelligence. Mappouras argues that the original Turing Test is not enough to determine true intelligence in AI systems, as it focuses too much on simulating human-like conversation rather than demonstrating genuine understanding and problem-solving Read More ›
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Sep 4, 2025 • 1sec
Journey to Longevity: Insights From Inventor Hal Philipp
Today, hosts Robert J. Marks and Bradley Norris speak again with Hal Philipp, inventor of the modern touchscreen, about his entrepreneurial work in health and nutrition. After selling his technology company, Hal turned his focus to personal health, particularly nutrition. Here, he discusses his unique philosophy on wellness. Philipp touches on the dangers of processed foods, the importance of eating Read More ›
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Aug 28, 2025 • 1sec
Beyond Materialism: Bruce Gordon on the Compelling Case for Idealism
Over the years, multiple explanations for the nature of reality have been proposed. Physicalists will claim that the only things that exist are physical matter. However, others in the dualist camp maintain that there are non-physical aspects of reality, such as immaterial concepts like numbers, logic, or a person’s mental state. Finally, we have idealists, who hold that the fundamental Read More ›
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Aug 21, 2025 • 23sec
Hal Philipp on The Perils and Profits of Invention
On this episode, hosts Robert J. Marks and Bradley Norris conclude a three-part interview with Hal Philipp, inventor of the modern touchscreen. In the previous two segments, Philipp discusses the inventions that culminated in his revolutionary touchscreen as well as its aftermath. This week coves some of the lessons Hal has learned over his career, with some questions from a Read More ›
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