
Compliance into the Weeds
What happens when two compliance aficionados get together to talk all things compliance, risk management and ERM? You get Tom Fox, the Voice of Compliance and Matt Kelly, the Coolest Guy in Compliance, going into the weeds of a topic each week. Each week, you can take a deep dive with two of the top writers, thinkers and prognosticators in compliance.
Latest episodes

Nov 6, 2024 • 21min
Risk-Based Compliance Lessons from a Young Entrepreneur’s Ice Cream Stand
The award-winning, Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore a subject more fully. Are you looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this special election day episode of ‘Compliance into the Weeds,’ Tom Fox and Matt Kelly dive into a lighter yet insightful compliance story involving a young boy named Danny Doherty.At 12 years old, Danny set up a homemade ice cream stand in Massachusetts to raise money for a hockey team for children with developmental disabilities. However, the local health department shut its stand down due to risks associated with homemade dairy products, highlighting the importance of a risk-based approach in compliance activities. Tom and Matt discuss key compliance lessons from this incident, such as the necessity of addressing real risks, the potential for compliance failures despite good intentions, and the importance of effective communication by regulators.Key highlights:
The Story of Danny Doherty
Compliance Lessons from Danny’s Story
Risk-Based Approach in Compliance
The Importance of Communication in Compliance
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Oct 30, 2024 • 27min
Leadership Lessons from The Washington Post’s Non-Endorsement
The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance related topic, literally going into the weeds to more fully explore a subject. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds!In this episode, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly take a deep dive into the recent events at the Washington Post, where the newspaper decided not to endorse a presidential candidate for the first time in years.This decision, directed by owner Jeff Bezos, has led to significant backlash, including 200,000 lost subscribers and concerns about the paper’s principles. Matt and Tom discuss the implications of this move on leadership, company values, and stakeholder trust, providing insights into the governance structure of newspapers and the potential fallout of abandoning established principles. We also turn to company values and if you are going to violate them, there should be sufficient justification. Finally, what a second Trump Administration might mean for corporate compliance.Key Highlights:
Washington Post’s Controversial Decision
Newspaper Governance Explained
Washington Post’s Mission and Principles
Leadership Failures and Consequences
Potential Future Implications
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Oct 23, 2024 • 25min
Unveiling RTX's Costly Compliance Failures and Corporate Misconduct
The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast which takes a deep dive into a compliance related topic, literally going into the weeds to more fully explore a subject. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds!In this episode, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly take a deep dive into the RTX Foreign Corrupt Practices Act enforcement action.Their discussion unveils complex bribery schemes involving millions paid to Qatari agents and the family of the Emir to secure defense contracts. Despite strict regulatory oversight, Raytheon’s (now RTX) compliance missteps spanned from 2012 into the 2020s, resulting in massive fines. Matt and Tom scrutinize these failures, detailing the SEC and DOJ’s mandates for dual monitorships due to violations of the False Claims Act and FCPA and the Board’s critical role in addressing these issues. Additionally, a comparative look at other significant FCPA cases, including Moog’s penalties for bribery in India, highlights persistent corporate misconduct and the ongoing challenges in achieving effective corporate compliance.Key Highlights:
Overview of Raytheon’s Violations
Qatari Agent and Further Corruption
Raytheon’s Compliance Failures
Management and Compliance Failures
Board Oversight and Responsibilities
Reflections on Compliance and Enforcement
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Oct 16, 2024 • 25min
Adventures in Squeezing Out Compliance - TD Bank's Flat Cost Paradigm
The award winning, Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast which takes a deep dive into a compliance related topic, literally going into the weeds to more fully explore a subject. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode Tom Fox and Matt Kelly take a deep dive into the TD Bank BSA and AML enforcement action which led to $3bn in fines and penalties.In this episode, Tom and Matt discuss TD Bank's conscious strategy of not raising the budget, known as the Flat Cost Paradigm or Zero Expense Growth Paradigm and how this completely strangled the Bank’s compliance and AML functions. This tactic aimed to increase profits by keeping expenditures flat year after year. The impact of this strategy is particularly evident in the global AML team's expenditures on the U.S. anti-money laundering program, which decreased by 2021 compared to 2018. Despite significantly growing U.S. assets and net income, the bank refrained from increasing its budget for essential programs, a fact highlighted in the Justice Department indictment. The Bank’s strategy is a clear warning when a business puts profits over compliance. Key Highlights· Introduction to the Flat Cost Paradigm· Details of the Budget Strategy· Impact on Anti-Money Laundering Efforts· Financial Growth Amidst Budget ConstraintsResources 1. BlogsMatt in Radical ComplianceTom in the FCPA Compliance and Ethics Blog2. Tom InstagramFacebookYouTubeTwitterLinkedIn3. Enforcement Related MaterialA. OCCOCC Press ReleaseConsent Order Civil Money Penalty B. DOJ TD Bank US Holding Company InformationTD Bank N.A. InformationTD Bank US Holding Company Plea Agreement and AttachmentsTD Bank N.A. Plea Agreement and AttachmentsMerrick Garland RemarksNicole Argentieri Remarks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 9, 2024 • 25min
Exploring Compliance Data Access and Testing Challenges
Dive into the complexities of compliance as experts discuss a groundbreaking study on testing and data access. Discover the alarming gaps in current practices and why tracking KPIs is crucial for program effectiveness. Insights reveal the difficulty compliance officers face in obtaining necessary data from departments like HR and Finance. The conversation emphasizes the need for better data sharing to enhance compliance monitoring aligned with DOJ guidelines. A call for continued research underscores the interconnectedness of data access and compliance success.

Oct 2, 2024 • 26min
The 2024 ECCP on Data Access
The award winning, Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast which takes a deep dive into a compliance related topic, literally going into the weeds to more fully explore a subject. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode Tom Fox and Matt Kelly take a deep dive into the 2024 update to the Department of Justice's guidelines for corporate compliance programs, focusing on data and data access. Tom and Matt explore the significance of these updates and whether they stem from companies showing advancements in data analytics or the DOJ recognizing gaps in data access for compliance officers. The discussion highlights the challenges compliance officers face, especially with diverse ERP systems and data silos, and provides insights into how compliance officers can leverage these guidelines to advocate for better data access within their organizations. The episode also breaks down specific questions from the DOJ’s guidelines, offering practical advice on addressing obstacles to data, resources for data access, and data maintenance.Key Highlights· The Importance of Data Access in Compliance· Challenges in Data Access for Compliance Officers· DOJ's Six Key Questions on Data Access· Addressing Data Access Impediments· Tools and Resources for Data Analytics· Communicating with the Board on Data AnalyticsResourcesMatt in Radical ComplianceTom in the FCPA Compliance and Ethics BlogTom InstagramFacebookYouTubeTwitterLinkedIn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 25, 2024 • 27min
Argentieri Speech and Updated ECCP – The First Analysis
The award winning, Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast which takes a deep dive into a compliance related topic, literally going into the weeds to more fully explore a subject. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode Tom Fox and Matt Kelly take a deep dive into the speech by Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General Nicole M. Argentieri at the Society of Corporate Compliance and Ethics 23rd Annual Compliance & Ethics Institute. Argentieri, revealed substantial updates to the department's Evaluation guidelines for effective compliance programs, focusing on whistleblower protections and the effectiveness of reporting mechanisms. Matt, reporting live from Dallas, discussed the implications of these updates, especially regarding the DOJ’s increased scrutiny on companies speak-up cultures and the protection of whistleblowers.Tom and Matt explored the practical steps compliance officers need to take to meet these new DOJ expectations, including ensuring anonymous reporting mechanisms are well-publicized and effectively utilized, fostering a culture that encourages reporting without fear of retaliation, and aligning company policies with the latest external whistleblower protection laws. They also touched on the potential challenges of balancing AI risks with these new guidelines and the broader impact on compliance programs. Key Highlights· Key focus on enhancing whistleblower protections.· Compliance officers must ensure that reporting mechanisms are well-publicized.· Importance of aligning internal policies with external whistleblower protection laws to ensure comprehensive employee training.· The balancing the challenges of AI risks with the need to adhere to new DOJ guidelines.· The practical steps for compliance professionals to align their programs with DOJ’s evolving expectations.ResourcesMatt in Radical ComplianceTom in the FCPA Compliance and Ethics BlogTom InstagramFacebookYouTubeTwitterLinkedIn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 18, 2024 • 22min
Everything Old is New Again - The John Deere FCPA Enforcement Action
The award winning, Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast which takes a deep dive into a compliance related topic, literally going into the weeds to more fully explore a subject. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode Tom Fox and Matt Kelly take a deep dive into the recent Securities and Exchange Commission FCPA enforcement action involving John Deere. The case centers on a $10 million civil penalty imposed by the SEC for bribery activities in the Thailand office of a newly acquired subsidiary, Wirtgen Group. This transgression spanned from 2017 to 2020, and despite having a code of business conduct, Wirtgen employees flouted rules by falsifying expenses, entertaining government officials at massage parlors, and engaging in a luxury sightseeing tour under the guise of a factory visit. A critical issue was John Deere's delayed integration of Wirtgen into its compliance program, leading to internal control lapses and obvious red flags in expense reports. Although Deere has since taken significant remedial actions, including firing culpable employees and enhancing its compliance and internal audit programs, the situation underscores persistent compliance challenges even for large, sophisticated firms. This episode serves as a reminder of the essential compliance lessons from past decades that firms must steadfastly adhere to.Key Highlights· Details of the Bribery Scheme· Internal Control Violations· Pre and Post-Acquisition Due Diligence Issues· Remedial Steps and Improvements· Root Cause Analysis and Lessons LearnedResourcesMatt in Radical ComplianceTom InstagramFacebookYouTubeTwitterLinkedIn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 11, 2024 • 23min
Pre-taliation Illegality - from Employment Contracts to All Contracts
The award winning, Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast which takes a deep dive into a compliance related topic, literally going into the weeds to more fully explore a subject. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds!In this episode, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly take a deep dive into the recent SEC enforcement actions against several companies for pre-taliation clauses and related illegal intent. Our conversation discusses recent enforcement actions by the SEC sanctioned against seven companies for a total of $3 million in civil penalties. The main issue was that these contracts required employees to forfeit any right to whistleblower awards if they reported misconduct to regulators. The conversation explores the legality of these contract clauses and the chilling effect they have on potential whistleblowers. Tom and Matt also discuss the challenges of remediation and the need for a comprehensive approach to address retaliatory clauses in all types of contracts.Key Highlights
SEC Enforcement Actions on Pre-Retaliation Language
The Illegality of Pre-Retaliation Clauses
Addressing Pre-Retaliation Clauses: Remediation Challenges
Expanding the Focus: From Employment Contracts to All Contracts
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Sep 4, 2024 • 26min
The BCG Declination – Key Insights for Compliance
The award winning, Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast which takes a deep dive into a compliance related topic, literally going into the weeds to more fully explore a subject. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds!In this episode, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly take a deep dive into the recent Department of Justice (DOJ) declination for the Boston Consulting Group (BCG).They highlight why this case garnered significant attention and dissect the substantive actions BCG took to avoid prosecution, including firing implicated employees and forcing equity forfeiture. The duo also explores the seven factors that led to the declination, such as timely self-reporting, full cooperation, and improved compliance measures. The episode provides a comprehensive analysis of the BCG case, offering crucial takeaways for compliance officers on how to handle potential corruption issues and DOJ expectations.Key Highlights:
Overview of the Boston Consulting Group Declination
DOJ’s Factors for Declination
Full Cooperation, Timely Self-Disclosure and Employee Consequences
Remediation Efforts and Compliance Improvements
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