

Compliance into the Weeds
Tom Fox
What happens when two compliance aficionados get together to talk all things compliance, risk management and ERM? You get Tom Fox, the Voice of Compliance and Matt Kelly, the Coolest Guy in Compliance, going into the weeds of a topic each week. Each week, you can take a deep dive with two of the top writers, thinkers and prognosticators in compliance. 
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Oct 29, 2025 • 32min
The NBA Betting Scandal - Lessons for the Compliance Professional
 The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore it more fully. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss the unfolding NBA betting scandal and explore what it all might mean for the compliance professional. 
Their discussion covers the allegations and implications involving high-profile NBA figures, including Terry Rozier, Damon Jones, and Chauncey Billups. They explore the role of material non-public information, the importance of risk assessment, the effectiveness of current compliance measures, and the crucial role of data analytics in detecting fraudulent activities. Insights into sports betting, preventive controls, and the ethical challenges faced by professional athletes are also discussed, drawing parallels for corporate compliance professionals.
 Key highlights:
NBA Betting Scandal Overview
Historical Context and Data Analytics
Conflict of Interest and Risk Assessment
Investigation and Compliance Strategies
 Resources:
Tom is writing a multipart series on the scandal on the FCPA Compliance and Ethics blog.
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A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts , a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred a Davey, a Communicator Award, and a W3 Award, all for podcast excellence.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices 

Oct 22, 2025 • 24min
The End of Self-Disclosure? The Criminal Indictment of Smartmatic
 The discussion delves into Smartmatic's unusual FCPA indictment, shedding light on its political sensitivities and legal battles with Fox News. Concerns about selective prosecution emerge, questioning whether political alliances influence the case. The hosts debate the implications for voluntary self-disclosure and how changing administrations complicate compliance strategies. They highlight a lack of new allegations against Smartmatic and explore the potential impact on its business amidst shifting political interests. 

Oct 15, 2025 • 26min
Navigating Effective Human Oversight for ADS/ADMT in AI Compliance
 The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore a subject more fully, and looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance. Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss Matt’s recent experience at a compliance conference in Lithuania and engage in a thorough discussion about effective human oversight in AI systems.
They examine the recent guidance from the European Data Protection Supervisor (EDPS) on maintaining human oversight of automated decision-making processes, relating it to similar regulatory requirements in California. The conversation explores the implications for corporate compliance, IT, and audit professionals, highlighting the challenge of balancing AI efficiency with the need for effective human intervention to mitigate risks and ensure regulatory compliance.
Key highlights:
Matt’s Experience in Lithuania
AI Regulation in the EU and CCPA Amendments re: ADS and ADMT
Effective Human Oversight in AI Systems
Challenges in AI Control Design
The Role of Compliance and Audit in AI Oversight
Resources:
Matt on Radical Compliance
Tom with a 5-Part podcast series on the CCPA Amendments on ADS/ADMT with Alyssa DeSimone on Life with GDPR
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A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred a Davey, Communicator, and W3 Awards for podcast excellence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices 

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Oct 8, 2025 • 21min
Chatbots and Interplay of Multiple Compliance Systems
 Join compliance expert Matt Kelly, author of Radical Compliance, as he dives into the complexities of AI in compliance from Vilnius. Discover the ethical dilemmas surrounding chatbots, particularly concerning employee confidentiality and whistleblower protections. Matt reveals how these innovative tools can lead to unintended risks if not properly managed. They also explore the challenges of multiple compliance systems working together and the importance of corporate culture and robust IT controls in navigating the evolving regulatory landscape. 

Oct 1, 2025 • 24min
Amplified Risks: Navigating Corporate Challenges in the Age of Social Media
 The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore a subject more fully. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss the bot attack on Cracker Barrel during its abortive name change imbroglio.
They explore the notion that social media risk is not a new concept, but rather an amplifier of existing risks for companies. It discusses the heightened potential for misinformation about a company’s values and how social media platforms have magnified this risk. Regulatory measures and accountability issues are addressed, with a nod to the role of prominent figures like Elon Musk. The episode underscores the inevitable, albeit unfair, reality of managing these amplified risks in today’s digital landscape.
Key highlights:
Introduction to Social Media Risks
Amplification of Existing Risks
Challenges in Managing Misconceptions
The Unavoidable Reality of Social Media Accountability
Resources:
Matt on Radical Compliance
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A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been honored with a Davey, Communicator, and W3 Award for podcast excellence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices 

Sep 24, 2025 • 20min
Navigating H-1B Visa Reforms & Corporate Compliance Challenges
 The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore a subject more fully. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss the Trump administration’s recent H-1B visa reforms and their implications for corporate compliance officers.
Highlighting the sudden and arbitrary policy changes, they discuss the potential chaos and confusion that businesses reliant on H-1B visas may face. They explore the economic ramifications, the threat of increased corporate costs, and the embedded risks of corruption. The episode highlights the broader issue of regulatory unpredictability under the Trump administration and offers compliance professionals guidance on coping strategies in this volatile environment.
Key highlights:
H-1B Visas: Current Headlines
Understanding H-1B Visas
Trump Administration’s New H-1B Visa Policy
Policy Clarifications and Implications
Potential for Corruption
Resources:
Matt on Radical Compliance 
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A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred the Davey, Communicator, and W3 Awards for podcast excellence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices 

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Sep 18, 2025 • 18min
SCCE Compliance and Ethics Institute Report
 Over 1,300 participants found a sense of community at the SCCE conference. Notable absences from the Trump administration highlighted the shifting dynamics in compliance. Innovative session formats provided fresh insights on compliance program elements. Discussion on AI tools revealed exciting use cases, such as TD Synex's Ethos chatbot. Leadership changes, particularly with the arrival of new CEO Garth Jordan, hint at a transformative direction for the organization. 

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Sep 17, 2025 • 22min
Checking in on Codes of Conduct
 Tom and Matt dive into a recent report on Codes of Conduct, revealing its dual role as a shield and sword in corporate dealings. They discuss why senior managers often mention the code more than middle managers and the importance of constant updates to keep it relevant. The duo also debates whether traditional codes are still necessary in an age where AI could integrate policies and training. With insights on user-friendly designs, they advocate for deeper engagement with codes to strengthen corporate culture. 

Sep 10, 2025 • 25min
Fracht - The Bonkers Sanctions Case
 The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore a subject more fully. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss a recent OFAC enforcement action against a Swiss-domiciled freight forwarding company, Fracht.
The case stands out for its complexity, involving a single, high-value transaction that exposed the company to significant sanctions risk through dealings with both Venezuelan and Iranian entities. Tom and Matt break down the compliance failures, the role of senior management, and the extensive remediation steps taken post-incident. This episode offers actionable lessons for compliance professionals on supply chain due diligence, the importance of compliance involvement in urgent deals, and the consequences of sidelining compliance functions.
Key highlights:
OFAC Enforcement Details
Anatomy of the Transaction
Third- and Fourth-Party Risks
Senior Management Involvement
Compliance Failures & Supply Chain Visibility
Remediation & Consequence Management
Key Takeaways for Compliance Professionals:
Always involve compliance in high-value, urgent transactions.
Ensure robust due diligence for all counterparties, including third- and fourth-party risks.
Senior management must be accountable for compliance failures.
Remediation should include policy updates, staff training, and ongoing oversight.
Resources:
Matt on Radical Compliance 
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A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred the Davey, Communicator, and W3 Awards for podcast excellence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices 

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Sep 3, 2025 • 24min
Examining the Impact of Reducing Middle Management on Corporate Culture
 Explore the wave of reducing middle management in corporate America and its substantial impact on corporate culture. Discover how this trend affects communication and employee dynamics while raising concerns over institutional knowledge loss. The discussion highlights the role of AI and enhanced training as solutions to compliance challenges in a streamlined structure. Ultimately, learn about the delicate balance between agility and effective oversight, drawing insightful parallels to the world of sports. 


