Burn the Boats

Sarah Posner is a journalist who has been covering the religious right for decades. Her most recent book, Unholy, explores how race and xenophobia have long been at the core of evangelical Christianity in America. In this episode, Sarah reveals how many evangelicals have adopted and executed a platform of extremism, citing their support for white supremacists, the corruption of the church, and their attempt to roll back the rights of women and the LGBTQ+ community.Go to GreenChef.com/Ken60 and use code Ken60 to get 60% off plus free shipping.Upgrade your sleep with Miracle Made! Go to TryMiracle.com/BOATS and use the code BOATS to claim your FREE 3 PIECE TOWEL SET and SAVE over 40% OFF.Head to ZBiotics.com/BOATS and use the code BOATS at checkout for 15% off.Upgrade your closet with Rhone and use BOATS to save 20% at rhone.com/boats Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Brynn Tannehill is a columnist, author, LGBTQ+ activist, and former Navy pilot. Her book American Fascism details how the GOP has been undermining democracy for decades.In this episode, Brynn draws comparisons between Nazi Germany and modern America, citing successful attempts to undermine elections and persecute minorities.Brynn also discusses common myths about Trans people, and her books Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Trans, and My Child Told Me They’re Trans… What Do I Do?.Head to https://tryfum.com/BOATS and use code BOATS to save 10% off when you get the journey pack today!Go to TryMiracle.com/BOATS and use the code BOATS to claim your FREE 3 PIECE TOWEL SET and SAVE over 40% OFF.Stop throwing your money away. Cancel unwanted subscriptions – and manage your expenses the easy way – by going to RocketMoney.com/boats Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this special Father’s Day episode, Ken is joined by Fred Guttenberg, whose daughter Jaime was killed in the 2018 Parkland shooting. Since then, Fred has become one of the most impactful, and inspiring, advocates for gun safety. His new book, American Carnage, dismantles many of the myths we hear today about guns and gun violence. In this interview, he shares some of those myths, and explains how the NRA has prioritized profits over people. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kristin Kobes Du Mez describes how Evangelism has transformed, and its relationship to masculinity, oppression, and nationalism.Kristin is a pastor and a professor of History and Gender Studies at Calvin University. Her book, Jesus and John Wayne, reveals “how evangelicals have worked to replace the Jesus of the Gospels with an idol of rugged masculinity and Christian nationalism.”This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/BOATS and get on your way to being your best self.Visit Lomi.com/BOATS and use code BOATS at checkout to save $50!Go to FastGrowingTrees.com/BOATS NOW to get FIFTEEN PERCENT OFF your entire order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

General Stanley McChrystal is a retired four-star general and former commander of the Joint Special Operations Command who led counter-insurgency operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.In this episode, General McChrystal discusses the weaknesses in American democracy, and how insurgents within our country are using them to erode democracy. He also warns against dismissing these threats:“There is an idea that it can't happen here, that our society can't break down, that we can't have an autocratic dictator. We sure could. And we'd have a lot of Americans who would fall behind that and do things that we've criticized other countries for, we've been shocked by. It could happen here. We could have a civil war. We could break down and kill our neighbors. We say we couldn't, but everywhere around the world that we see, the Balkans, you know, now Ukraine and Russia, just almost everywhere you go where you think it's unthinkable. It's thinkable. It's possible. It can happen, and it can happen here. Because while we think we're exceptional, we're not enough different that we're not subject to the same weaknesses that can happen elsewhere. And if we stare into the abyss and we say, ‘Wow, that could actually occur.’ Then we've got to step back and say, ‘That's why the founding fathers spent so much time and effort to try to create a republic that could survive the wins. It could survive the ups and downs. It could survive internal discord, but it wouldn't lose sight of the fact there are things we have to hold on to.’ And that's what I would tell people.”This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/BOATS and get on your way to being your best self.Athletic Greens is giving you a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 free travel packs with your first purchase at athleticgreens.com/BURNTHEBOATS. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Stacey Abrams talks about her new book, Rogue Justice, and the systems that influence American life from the shadows.Stacey Abrams is a politician, author, and voting rights activist. She served in the Georgia House of Representatives for 10 years, she fought two closely contested gubernatorial races, and has been at the forefront of expanding voting rights in Georgia and beyond, with her organization, Fair Fight Action.Head to https://TryFum.com and use code BOATS to save 10% off when you get the journey pack today! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mary Trump is a clinical psychologist and host of the podcast The Mary Trump Show. She is also a bestselling author, and her most recent book, The Reckoning, talks about national trauma and finding ways to heal.Her first book, Too Much and Never Enough, analyzes how the toxic Trump household created the Donald Trump we know today.Here’s the mashed potatoes story that Mary and Ken reference during the episode.Athletic Greens is giving you a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 free travel packs with your first purchase at athleticgreens.com/BURNTHEBOATSHead to tryfum.com/BOATS to save an additional 10% off your order today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mila Atmos is the host of Future Hindsight, a podcast about civic engagement that gives listeners action items so that they can better participate in our democracy. In this episode, Mila discusses voter engagement and persuasion. Go to magicspoon.com/BOATS to grab a variety pack and try it today! And be sure to use our promo code BOATS at checkout to save five dollars off your order!Go to FastGrowingTrees.com/BOATS NOW to get FIFTEEN PERCENT OFF your entire order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Angela Denker is a Lutheran pastor and journalist. Her book Red State Christians takes a hard look at White Christian Nationalism and the evangelicals who voted for Trump.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sarah Longwell discusses the 2024 presidential race and its potential candidates.Sarah is a longtime Republican political strategist who has broken with her party to defend democracy. She is the publisher of The Bulwark, and has been monitoring the opinions of voters for years by hosting weekly focus groups. She discusses these groups on her podcast, The Focus Group.This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://betterhelp.com/BOATS and get on your way to being your best self. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices