

People Property Place
Matthew Watts
Interviewing the leaders shaping the real estate investment management industry. Hosted by Matthew Watts, Founder of Rockbourne.
The central intention of this podcast is to share the stories, views, opinions, and career journeys of the movers, shakers, innovators, and leaders in the real estate investment management industry.
Whether you are an existing real estate professional, aspiring to break into the space, or just want to know more about this fascinating sector this podcast is for you.
New episodes of The People Property Place Podcast will be released regularly and you will be able to find them for free on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, or any App that supports podcasts.
Oh, and one last thing - in every episode, I will be asking each guest who are the People, what Property, and which Place they would be looking to invest, should they have £500m at their disposal.
www.rockbourne.com
The central intention of this podcast is to share the stories, views, opinions, and career journeys of the movers, shakers, innovators, and leaders in the real estate investment management industry.
Whether you are an existing real estate professional, aspiring to break into the space, or just want to know more about this fascinating sector this podcast is for you.
New episodes of The People Property Place Podcast will be released regularly and you will be able to find them for free on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, or any App that supports podcasts.
Oh, and one last thing - in every episode, I will be asking each guest who are the People, what Property, and which Place they would be looking to invest, should they have £500m at their disposal.
www.rockbourne.com
Episodes
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Oct 17, 2024 • 49min
#95 David Bateman, Former Chief Investment Officer at Primary Health Properties
David Bateman, a highly experienced real estate professional with over two decades in the industry, previously served as Chief Investment Officer at Primary Health Properties (PHP). During his time at PHP, he oversaw substantial growth, including the expansion of the portfolio to over £3 billion and led PHP’s entry into the Irish market. David's expertise spans operational real estate, long-income strategies, and the healthcare sector. In this episode, David discusses: His path into real estate, transitioning from a background in economics. Navigating career challenges, including the Global Financial Crisis (GFC), and how he successfully pivoted during this turbulent time. The operational real estate sector, with a focus on logistics and healthcare. Key lessons from managing PHP’s portfolio expansion, particularly in Ireland. The growing importance of ESG and its impact on the real estate market. Strategic decision-making, balancing risk and opportunity in property investment. Tune in to hear David's fascinating journey and his insights on the future of real estate. Catch the full episode now on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts! 🎙 The People Property Place Podcast is powered by Rockbourne, the team specialising in Leadership & Future Leadership hires for Real Estate Funds, Owners, Investors, and Developers.

Oct 10, 2024 • 1h 10min
#94 James Markby, Founder of Logistics Capital Partners
James Markby, Founder of Logistics Capital Partners, shares insights from his 20+ years in logistics real estate. He discusses his unconventional journey and the lessons learned while transitioning from advisor to developer. Markby highlights the importance of timing in investment decisions and the challenges posed by today's debt wall. He also reflects on personal sacrifices made while building a thriving business and reveals strategies for overcoming obstacles in European expansion. The conversation offers a compelling look at the future of logistics investments.

Oct 3, 2024 • 49min
#93 Louisa Butters, Senior Director & Head of Retail Asset Management at CBRE Investment Management
CBRE Investment Management is a leading real assets firm who have some $140+ Bn under management, over 1000 team members and over 30 offices worldwide. Louisa started her career at King Sturge now, JLL, and has worked at CBRE Global Investors, Cherwell District Council, and Cadogan before joining CBRE Investment Management as a Director. I sat down with Louisa to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: * How she got started in real estate * Early career moves * Exciting market opportunities to watch * Key advice for those starting out in real estate * The evolution of asset management * The resurgence of retail * Balancing income with value creation * Placemaking - building communities * E-commerce & Physical Space - Finding the perfect balance * ESG Considerations Oh and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Louisa would invest should she have £500m of capital at her disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Youtube, Spotify and Apple NOW! The People Property Place Podcast 🎙 is powered by Rockbourne - the team recruit Leadership & Future Leadership hires for Real Estate Funds, Owners, Investors & Developers. Who do you want to see on the Podcast? #peoplepropertyplace #podcast #rockbourne #realestate

Sep 26, 2024 • 46min
#92 Hannah Grievson, Property Director - Sloane Stanley Estate
Hannah oversees one of London's most prestigious estates, dating back to the 1700s, expertly balancing its historic legacy with the demands of modern urban life. Hannah started her career in real estate valuation and has gained extensive experience in property and asset management, working both on the advisory and principal side. I sat down with Hannah to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: * Early career moves * Transition from advisor to principal * etail Pop-Ups * How the pandemic impacted the estate * Placemaking, tenant mix and curation * Residential, Leisure, F&B, Retail management * Balancing heritage & sustainability Oh and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Hannah would invest should she have £500m of capital at her disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Youtube, Spotify and Apple NOW! The People Property Place Podcast 🎙 is powered by Rockbourne - the team recruit Leadership & Future Leadership hires for Real Estate Funds, Owners, Investors & Developers. Who do you want to see on the Podcast?

Sep 19, 2024 • 60min
#91 James Lock, Founder of Rotation Real Estate
From Labourer, Manager, Innovator, Developer, to a 13-year stint at Blackstone as an Investor, James has moved to Founding Partner & Owner of Rotation Real Estate. Rotation is an entrepreneurial, creative and enterprising investment manager, driven by passion, ethics and profit to identify and reimagine the real estate of tomorrow. I sat down with James to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: * How he got into real estate * Early career moves * Lessons learnt from working at Blackstone * Transition from corporate leadership to entrepreneurship * Building a high-performance team * Vision for the future * Opportunities in the market Oh and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place James would invest should he have £500m of capital at his disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Youtube, Spotify and Apple NOW! The People Property Place Podcast 🎙 is powered by Rockbourne - the team recruit Leadership & Future Leadership hires for Real Estate Funds, Owners, Investors & Developers. Who do you want to see on the Podcast? #peoplepropertyplace #podcast #rockbourne #realestate

Sep 12, 2024 • 58min
#90 Bradley Goldenberg, Managing Director of Goldenberg Real Estate
Bradley is one of the industry’s top deal makers and has traded over £3.7bn worth of UK real estate across all commercial and residential sectors. He boasts an enviable client book of Global Institutional Investors, UK & Overseas Property Companies, Private Equity Houses and both Global and domestic UHNW investors. I sat down with Bradley to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: How he got into real estate * His first deal * Favourite deal * What makes a good agent * Dealing with UHNWI * AI and tech impact on agents * Opportunities in the market Oh and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Bradley would invest should he have £500m of equity at his disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Youtube, Spotify and Apple NOW! The People Property Place Podcast 🎙️ is powered by Rockbourne - the team recruit Leadership & Future Leadership hires for Real Estate Funds, Owners, Investors & Developers. Who do you want to see on the Podcast? #peoplepropertyplace #podcast #rockbourne #realestate

Sep 5, 2024 • 55min
#89 Ed Clough, Managing Director at Octopus Real Estate
Octopus Real Estate is a specialist investor, developer and lender with a keen focus on the living and healthcare sectors. Under Ed’s leadership, Octopus Real Estate oversees a staggering £3.7 billion worth of assets, for both institutional and retail clients. Ed joined Octopus in 2017 and previously led the Care Homes and Corporate Development teams. Prior to joining Octopus, he was a lawyer with international law firm Allen & Overy and he holds a BA in Economics from Durham University and an MBA from the University of Cambridge’s Judge Business School. I sat down with Ed to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: * Early career moves * How he got into real estate * European expansion plans * Fundraising & structures * Building a high-performing team * Care homes, Retirement, Affordable & lending * Ambition to grow Octopus AUM from £13bn to £50bn by 2030 Oh and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Ed would invest should he have £500m of equity at his disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Youtube, Spotify and Apple NOW! The People Property Place Podcast 🎙️ is powered by Rockbourne - the team recruit Leadership & Future Leadership hires for Real Estate Funds, Owners, Investors & Developers. Who do you want to see on the Podcast? #peoplepropertyplace #podcast #rockbourne #realestate

Aug 29, 2024 • 1h 3min
#88 Nadine Buckland, CEO - Zenzic Capital.
With over two decades of advisory and investment experience Nadine co-founded Zenzic Capital in 2013 with Tom Lloyd-Jones to provide a range of structured financing solutions across the UK and Europe for single-site and platform level funding covering acquisition, development and opportunistic scenarios. The team have financed over £1.25bn of real estate and asset-backed transactions across the alternative sub-sectors including logistics, PBSA, BTR, hotels and leisure. Prior to founding Zenzic, Nadine held insolvency and transaction advisory roles at Horwath Clarke Whitehill, RSM Tenon and Baker Tilly. I sat down with Nadine to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: * Early career moves * How she got into real estate * Zenzic Capital’s evolution * Personal cost / risk of setting up a business * Building a high performing team * Raising Capital * Opportunities in the market * Juggling CEO & home life Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Nadine would invest should she have £500m of equity at her disposal. Catch the full episode which is live on Spotify, Apple & YouTube. The People Property Place Podcast 🎙️ is powered by Rockbourne - the team recruit Leadership & Future Leadership hires for Real Estate Funds, Owners, Investors & Developers. #peoplepropertyplace #podcast #rockbourne #realestate

Aug 22, 2024 • 1h 6min
#87 Paul Weston, Senior Vice President & Regional Head of Prologis UK
Prologis is the global leader in logistics real estate with a focus on high-barrier, high-growth markets. As of 30th June 2024, the company owned or had investments in, properties and development projects expected to total approximately 1.2 billion square feet in 19 countries, with approximately 6,700 customers. Paul has worked in the UK industrial and logistics sector for 30 years and began his career in industrial agency at JLL before working with Gazeley (now GLP) and Brixton plc (now part of SEGRO), joining Prologis in 2003. Together with the Executive Team, Paul is responsible for setting the strategic direction for the UK business and works closely with the European and Global leadership teams. I sat down with Paul to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: * How he got into real estate * Early career moves + lessons * Seeking forgiveness rather than permission * Learning from your mistakes * Entrepreneurial spirit * Collaboration with Francis Bourgeois * Current market dynamics * Importance of your network * Data * The transition from day job to leader Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Paul would invest should he have £500m of equity at his disposal. Catch the full episode which is live on Spotify, Apple & YouTube. The People Property Place Podcast 🎙️ is powered by Rockbourne - the team recruit Leadership & Future Leadership hires for Real Estate Funds, Owners, Investors & Developers. #peoplepropertyplace #podcast #rockbourne #realestate

Aug 15, 2024 • 58min
#86 RECAP with Jess Piltz - Head of Sustainable Investing, Private Markets at Fiera Capital
Fiera Real Estate UK is wholly owned by Fiera Capital Corporation, a leading independent global asset management firm with more than USD121 billion of AUM as at 31st March 2023. Jess is responsible for leading Fiera Capital’s global sustainable investing strategy across private markets, alongside and working closely with asset class specialists in each strategy, to ensure a consistent, purpose-led and proactive approach to ESG considerations. I sat down with Jess to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: * How she got into real estate * Green hushing + social hushing * Natural Carbon * What traits she looks for when hiring * The anti-ESG movement * Career roles within ESG * Her dream ‘to make her role redundant’ Oh and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Jess would invest should she have £500m of equity at her disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Youtube, Spotify and Apple from Thursday this week. The People Property Place Podcast 🎙️ is powered by Rockbourne - the team recruit Leadership & Future Leadership hires for Real Estate Funds, Owners, Investors & Developers. Who do you want to see on the Podcast? Link below in the comments to check out the previous episodes👇🏻 #peoplepropertyplace #podcast #rockbourne #realestate