

The US-China Podcast
National Committee on U.S.-China Relations
This series features brief discussions with leading China experts on a range of issues in the U.S.-China relationship, including domestic politics, foreign policy, economics, security, culture, the environment, and areas of global concern. For more interviews, videos, and links to events, visit our website: www.ncuscr.org.
The National Committee on U.S.-China Relations is the leading nonprofit, nonpartisan organization that encourages understanding of China and the United States among citizens of both countries.
The National Committee on U.S.-China Relations is the leading nonprofit, nonpartisan organization that encourages understanding of China and the United States among citizens of both countries.
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Jul 5, 2024 • 36min
What are China’s global ambitions?
Exploring China's rise in global prominence, their ambitious goals for national rejuvenation, and their initiatives like the Belt and Road Initiative. The podcast also delves into the complaints from the US and China about each other's actions, as well as international perceptions of China's global ambitions. Lastly, it discusses US responses to China's influence under the Trump and Biden administrations.

Jun 24, 2024 • 10min
Should the U.S. Decouple from China?
Clark Packard, an expert on international trade, dives into the complexities of U.S.-China economic relations. He discusses the motivations behind America’s push to decouple, focusing on national security concerns like cyber threats and intellectual property issues. Packard also highlights the potential economic repercussions for everyday Americans, such as rising prices and impacts on farmers. Additionally, he argues that while reducing trade is feasible, a complete decoupling may be unrealistic, shedding light on the intertwined fates of these two global giants.

Jun 7, 2024 • 29min
High Wire: How China Regulates Big Tech and Governs Its Economy
Angela Zhang, an authority on Chinese tech regulation and author of "The High Wire," shares her insights on China's complex regulatory landscape. She discusses how antitrust enforcement has impacted major companies like Alibaba and led to unintended market consequences. The conversation also touches on China's approach to regulating AI, balancing technological growth with content control. Additionally, Zhang explores the strategic shifts in investments influenced by these regulations, particularly as China aims to rival the U.S. in innovation.

May 31, 2024 • 39min
Lost Decade: The U.S. Pivot to Asia and the Rise of Chinese Power
There is wide bipartisan agreement that Asia belongs at the center of U.S. foreign policy. What has been achieved since the Obama administration announced its “Pivot to Asia” in 2011? Robert Blackwill and Richard Fontaine argue in Lost Decade: The U.S. Pivot to Asia and the Rise of Chinese Power that although the pivot made strategic sense, there have been few successes; furthermore, we need a far more coherent approach to the Indo-Pacific region. The authors stress that American policymakers must fully understand what the pivot to Asia aimed to achieve – and where it fell short – to gather the resources and forge the alliances and resolve necessary to preserve an open order in Asia and the world. Crafting an effective policy for the region is critical to preserving American security, prosperity, and democratic values. In an interview conducted on May 14, 2024, Ambassador Robert D. Blackwill and Richard Fontaine discuss the recent shift to Asia-centric geopolitics and its implications for America’s present and future. About the speakers Follow Richard Fontaine on X: @RHFontaine Subscribe to the National Committee on YouTube for video of this interview. Follow us on Twitter (@ncuscr) and Instagram (@ncuscr).

May 28, 2024 • 37min
Divided Paths: Europe’s Divergent Approaches to China
In the wake of Xi Jinping’s first visit to Europe in five years, the European Union and China continue to navigate an increasingly challenging period in relations. Concerns over growing trade imbalances, unfair subsidies in key industries, high-profile espionage cases, and China’s continued support for Russia and its war on Ukraine place increasing strain on this pivotal relationship. At the same time, economic interconnectivity and shared concerns over transnational issues like climate change and AI governance compel coordination and cooperation. President Xi’s recent visits to France, Hungary, and Serbia have underscored the divisions within the European Union regarding China policy, leaving the path forward uncertain. At this critical juncture, on May 15, 2024, Jason Kelly sat down with Noah Barkin and Janka Oertel to unpack recent developments, key issues, and the road ahead for China and the European Union. About the speakers About the speaker: https://www.ncuscr.org/event/europe-china-relations/ Follow Noah Barkin on X: @noahbarkin Follow Janka Oertel on X: @oertel_janka Subscribe to the National Committee on YouTube for video of this interview. Follow us on Twitter (@ncuscr) and Instagram (@ncuscr).

May 25, 2024 • 1h 4min
Balancing Economic Prosperity and National Security
The U.S.-China bilateral relationship is a competitive one, from economics to security, diplomacy to geopolitics, technology to the oceans and deep space. It is subject to varying degrees of tension, punctuated by intermittent cooperation and now, a resumption of selective dialogue. Each side views the other with suspicion and the policies of both are in keeping with a sense of alarm. Yet the two countries seem to agree that decoupling the two economies would be a grave mistake and that security, including technological preeminence, is essential to development, growth, leadership, and sovereignty. Ambassador Charlene Barshefsky spoke at the National Committee’s Annual Members Program on May 21, 2024, with NCUSCR Director Amy Celico. They discussed the foundations of the U.S.-China relationship, the policy focus and goals of each side, and opportunities for greater collaboration even in the face of political sensitivities and the de-risking driving economic and trade ties. About the speakers: ncuscr.org/video/charlene-barshefsky-members-program Follow Amy Celico on X: @AmyCelico

May 21, 2024 • 25min
Is the U.S. or Chinese military bigger? | U.S.-China Counterpoints
The military force of the People’s Republic of China (PRC), the People’s Liberation Army (PLA), is the largest standing army in the world. However, the United States maintains the highest military expenditure in the world. How can Americans evaluate whether the U.S. or Chinese military is bigger? In an interview conducted on April 15, 2024, Isaac Kardon discusses the comparative capabilities of the PLA and U.S. militaries, and how strategists evaluate the threat the PLA holds towards American territories. U.S.-China Counterpoints explores common perspectives on the U.S.-China relationship held by those in both countries. Guided by leading experts, this series examines the facts behind common viewpoints, and the details that shape U.S.-China relations behind the headlines. About the speaker: https://www.ncuscr.org/video/pla-us-military Follow Isaac Kardon on X: @IBKardon Subscribe to the National Committee on YouTube for video of this interview. Follow us on Twitter (@ncuscr) and Instagram (@ncuscr).

May 17, 2024 • 34min
Is it possible to win the U.S.-China trade war?
A full-out trade war erupted between the United States and China during the Trump administration, increasing tariffs on Chinese imports in dozens of sectors and leading to rising business competition and costs to consumers. How has this ongoing trade war impacted everyday U.S. and Chinese citizens? And how will the Biden administration handle the current tariffs placed on Chinese goods? KU Trade War Lab Director Jack Zhang joined the National Committee to discuss the national and global consequences of the U.S.-China trade war on May 7, 2024. About the speaker: https://www.ncuscr.org/video/us-china-trade-war/ Follow Jack Zhang on X: @HanFeiTzu Subscribe to the National Committee on YouTube for video of this interview. Follow us on Twitter (@ncuscr) and Instagram (@ncuscr).

May 10, 2024 • 18min
How is China promoting peace?
China was able to broker a historic global security agreement between Saudi Arabia and Iran, changing not only the Middle East’s regional dynamics, but also China’s position on the global diplomatic stage. China performs a balancing act between being a responsible stakeholder in world affairs, including the Russia-Ukraine and Israel-Hamas wars, and upholding its value of non-interference in other countries’ politics. Why is China positioning itself as a global peace broker and conflict mediator? What does this position say about China’s national trajectory and its relationship with the United States? What’s are the advantages of China positioning itself as a global peace broker and conflict mediator? What does this position say about China’s national trajectory and its relationship with the United States? Preston Jordan Lim joined the National Committee on May 6, 2024 to discuss the diplomatic goals and national strategy of China’s engagement in global conflicts and resolutions. About the speaker Follow Preston Jordan Lim on X: @PrestonJordanL1 Subscribe to the National Committee on YouTube for video of this interview. Follow us on Twitter (@ncuscr) and Instagram (@ncuscr).

May 6, 2024 • 12min
Should the U.S. give more support to Taiwan?
Official U.S. policy towards Taiwan focuses on developing robust non-state relations with the island while advocating for a peaceful resolution to the cross-strait conflict. When considering American policy towards Taiwan, is more U.S. support good for Taiwan and regional peace? Sara Newland, Assistant Professor of Government at Smith College, discusses the need to pay attention to Taiwan’s own desires and needs in the context of the China-U.S.-Taiwan relationship in this latest installment of U.S.-China Counterpoints in an interview conducted on November 3, 2023. U.S.-China Counterpoints explores common perspectives on the U.S.-China relationship held by those in both countries. Guided by leading experts, this series examines the facts behind common viewpoints, and the details that shape U.S.-China relations behind the headlines. About the speaker: https://www.ncuscr.org/video/should-us-support-taiwan/ Follow Sara Newland on X: @NewlandSara Subscribe to the National Committee on YouTube for video of this interview. Follow us on Twitter (@ncuscr) and Instagram (@ncuscr).