Pastor Paul Leboutillier is a wise, mature and seasoned saint and between training sessions in Boise, Idaho he sat down with Mike for a conversation about the difference between self awareness and self obsession, being thrown Into the deep end of ministry way too young, and how he is handling being an unlikely YouTube celebrity.    Pastor Paul Leboutillier has been the Senior Pastor of Calvary Chapel Ontario, Oregon for 32 years and is close to completing his third time through the entire Bible teaching verse by verse.   A significant increase in curiosity and online searching for Bible teachings took place during the pandemic as the world dealt with major disruptions in life and, for some, the inability to attend church services. This led to many around the world discovering Pastor Paul's teachings. His recorded and live teachings have been watched on YouTube over 31 million times with well over 150,000 subscribers. Pastor Paul and his wife, Sue, have been married 44 years and have four grown children and 6 grandchildren. Resources Mentioned: Knowledge of the Holy - A.W. Tozer : https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/666758.The_Knowledge_of_the_Holy Calvary Chapel Ontario YouTube Channel : https://www.youtube.com/@CalvaryChapelOntario Damian Kyle Sermons:  https://accordingtothescriptures.com/Recommended Episodes: Chuck Smith - Spirit Anointed Sermon Preparation : https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2021/3/14/bonus-episode-spirit-anointed-sermon-preparation-chuck-smith Shawn Stone - Speech Impediments, Insecurity and the Holy Spirit : https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2019/7/16/episode-56-speech-impediments-insecurities-and-the-holy-spirit Panel Discussion on Sermon Preparation: https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2022/2/1/panel-discussion-on-sermon-preparation Embodied Preaching - Sam Allberry : https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2021/9/21/embodied-preaching-sam-allberryJoin our private Facebook group to continue the conversation: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExpositorsCollectiveThe Expositors Collective podcast is part of the GoodLion podcast network, for more thought provoking Christian podcasts visit https://goodlion.io

December has arrived, and we decided to dig into the vaults and pull out this treasure from 2021 - Mike speaks with pastor, musician and self-proclaimed "Ambassador of Christmas" Ronnie Martin about how preachers can leverage this annual opportunity for the gospel? How can a pastor, who has perhaps preached dozens of Christmas messages over the years, keep it “fresh” now? They speak about some beloved and obscure Christmas carols, sermon series ideas, Advent devotionals and the ethics of re-preaching old Christmas messages. Ronnie Martin is a songwriter, recording artist, author, and Lead Pastor of Substance Church (EFCA).His most recent solo albums are From the Womb of the Morning, the Dew of Your Youth Will Be Yours (Velvet Blue Music, 2022), and Bells Merrily: The Christmas Recordings (Velvet Blue Music, 2022). Prior to his solo recordings, he released numerous albums as Joy Electric and The Brothers Martin (Tooth and Nail Records), among others.Ronnie is the author of The God Who is With Us: A 25 Day Advent Devotional (B&H, 2022), as well as seven other books that have been released or are forthcoming. Ronnie’s writing has appeared in Lifeway Research, For the Church, The Gospel Coalition, and other places. He is the co-host of two podcasts: The Happy Rant (w/ Ted Kluck & Barnabas Piper) and The Art of Pastoring (w/ Jared C. Wilson).Ronnie has given talks and sermons around the country on a wide variety of topics including theology, pastoral ministry, small-town pastoring, worship, music, and Christian living. He completed his M.A. at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School and is currently finishing his DMin at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary.Ronnie is also the Director of Leader Renewal for Harbor Network, where he works alongside church planters and pastors in areas related to pastoral care.He and his wife Melissa live in a restored colonial house from 1895 in Mid-Ohio and have an adult daughter who lives and works in Chicago.Resources Mentioned: Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room (8 guests speak about Christmas preaching)  https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2022/11/15/advent-preaching-mike-neglia-with-eight-guestsThe God Who is With Us:  25-Day Devotional for Advent -   https://www.amazon.com/God-Who-Us-25-Day-Devotional/dp/1087753570?crid=XBWBAATA5JWO&keywords=ronnie+martin+books&qid=1654454127&sprefix=ronnie+martin,aps,120&sr=8-1&linkCode=sl1&tag=josbye-20&linkId=36bace2d6b31ad38e66191010206e507&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl The Best Gift Ever Given: A 25-Day Journey Through Advent from God's Good Gifts to God's Great Son :  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0736978542/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i2Said Fantasy: https://plastiqmusiq.bandcamp.com/album/carols-gloria 3 Ways to Become a Christmas Loving Pastor: https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/3-ways-to-become-a-christmas-loving-pastor/ 25 Advent Devotionals from Ronnie Martin: https://ftc.co/?s=advent Substance Church : https://www.substance-church.org/ Recommended Episodes: Tidings of Great Joy:  https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2019/11/28/episode-76-tidings-of-great-joyRonnie Martin - The Danger of Being Over-Prepared: https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2021/8/3/the-danger-of-being-over-prepared-ronnie-martin Jonathan Pennington:  https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2021/8/10/the-first-and-last-minute-of-your-sermon-jonathan-penningtonJoin our private Facebook group to continue the conversation: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExpositorsCollectiveThe Expositors Collective podcast is part of the GoodLion podcast network, for more thought provoking Christian podcasts visit https://goodlion.io

Paul LeBoutillier gives half a dozen solid, practical pieces of advice that each and every Bible teacher can implement right away, and begin to see growth and progress. Thoughtful wisdom concerning the sermon preparation process, heart analysis and checking our own motives are dispensed by Paul on October 14th, 2022 in Boise Idaho at our most recent training event.  Pastor Paul has been the Senior Pastor of Calvary Chapel Ontario, Oregon for 32 years and is close to completing his third time through the entire Bible teaching verse by verse. A significant increase in curiosity and online searching for Bible teachings took place during the pandemic as the world dealt with major disruptions in life and, for some, the inability to attend church services. This led to many around the world discovering Pastor Paul's teachings. His recorded and live teachings have been watched on YouTube over 31 million times with well over 150,000 subscribers. Pastor Paul and his wife, Sue, have been married 44 years and have four grown children and 6 grandchildren. Resources mentioned:    ESV Bible, Read by Kristyn Getty  : https://www.crossway.org/bibles/esv-bible-read-by-kristyn-getty-dl/   DEVELOPING YOUR GIFT - DAVID GUZIK : https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2020/12/1/developing-your-gift-david-guzik  MISTAKES NEW PREACHERS OFTEN MAKE - TED LEAVENWORTH :  HTTPS://WWW.EXPOSITORSCOLLECTIVE.COM/PODCAST/2020/11/19/MISTAKES-NEW-PREACHERS-OFTEN-MAKE-TED-LEAVENWORTHJoin our private Facebook group to continue the conversation: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExpositorsCollectiveThe Expositors Collective podcast is part of the GoodLion podcast network, for more thought provoking Christian podcasts visit https://goodlion.io

In episode 250 of the podcast Heath Hardesty speaks with Mike Neglia about mirth, cultural engagement and the artistry of preaching. Heath Hardesty was born and raised in Boulder County, Colorado, and now lives in Livermore. Before pastoring, h worked as a plumber's apprentice (which might explain something of his focus on us being apprentices of Jesus). He and his wife moved to the Tri-valley in October of 2009 to join the pastoral team of VCC, and he became the lead pastor in 2015. Heath and his wife Marla have three kids: a 9-year-old boy, a 6-year-old girl, and a 4-year-old girl. Heath is a self-professed book nerd, so talk of Tolkien, Lewis, Dostoevsky, Eliot, O'Connor, Peterson and others are likely to happen at some point! In his opinion, theology should have some poetry to it. Join our private Facebook group to continue the conversation: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExpositorsCollectiveThe Expositors Collective podcast is part of the GoodLion podcast network, for more thought provoking Christian podcasts visit https://goodlion.io

The Christmas season is upon us! This is a unique time in the calendar year when nominal Christians and occasional visitors will come to your church to sing songs and listen to a sermon. How can we leverage this opportunity for the gospel? How can a preacher, who has perhaps preached dozens of Christmas messages over the years, keep it “fresh” now?  Eight former (and upcoming) guests of the podcast were asked exactly that question and have submitted their answers. Our hope is that as you listen to these different perspectives and ideas that it will stir your heart with fresh enthusiasm this upcoming December! For full biographies and John Starke - 02:34 https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2021/4/27/showing-gods-love-through-expository-preaching-john-starkeShane Angland - 08:42https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2020/7/7/the-problem-and-the-promise-of-preaching-shane-anglandIan Clary - 10:36https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2020/9/21/preaching-evangelistic-sermons-ian-claryDave Lomas - 14:09Episode forthcoming (Scheduled for December 20, 2022)Taylor Turkingtonn - 17:05Episode forthcoming (Scheduled for January 17, 2023) Preaching Today article mentioned:https://www.preachingtoday.com/holidays-events/holidays/christmas/christmas-and-minor-prophets.htmlDavid Mathis - 20:57https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2022/11/1/what-does-it-mean-to-be-able-to-teach-with-david-mathis The Christmas We Didn't Expect: A Daily Advent Devotional https://www.amazon.com/Christmas-We-Didnt-Expect/dp/1784984760John Brown - 27:28 https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2019/10/29/episode-71-the-art-of-saying-no-to-good-thingsDominic Done - 31:01https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2021/9/12/preaching-faith-amp-deconstruction-dominic-doneMike Neglia - 39:52https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2022/5/10/preaching-gospel-centered-sermons-mike-negliaJoin our private Facebook group to continue the conversation: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExpositorsCollectiveThe Expositors Collective podcast is part of the GoodLion podcast network, for more thought provoking Christian podcasts visit https://goodlion.io

The ministry of the Word and the care of souls is certainly not limited only to the preaching event. Pastors are called not only to minister with an open Bible from the pulpit, but also with an open Bible from the counselling couch as well. Kike Torres returns for a second time to speak about the role of Biblical counselling in his church context, and also why he believes that every pastor should have a counsellor, and should be counselling others.     Kike has served as lead pastor of Horizonte Querétaro since 2011. He is the founder of the Calvary Chapel School of Ministry in México and the Biblical Counseling Center at Querétaro. Kike also writes for the Gospel Coalition and is the founder and president of the Biblical Counseling Coalition in Mexico which hosts the annual National Biblical Counseling Conference, as well as regional biblical counseling conferences. He is currently pursuing ACBC certification and a MACS at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is married to Paulina and they have one son. Kike has a passion for mental, physical, and spiritual health.Further resources: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkwWi_HtIQMBU8ySbeBlD_gTwitter: https://twitter.com/kikepastorresInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/pastorreskike/ Church Website: https://www.cristoesmejor.com/PastorPastor Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pastorpastor-con-kike-torres/id1501868899Una Nueva Vida Book: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B085XNS33H/Dios en mis desiertos y tormentas Book: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400244463/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i1Biblical Counseling Coalition in Mexico: https://www.consejero.org/National Biblical Counseling Conference: https://www.contuconsejo.com/ Association of Certified Biblical Counsellors (ACBC) https://biblicalcounseling.com/ Recommended Episodes : The Preacher and Emotional Health - Ryan Huguley :  https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2020/10/6/the-preacher-and-emotional-health-ryan-hugleyEvery Hero Suffers - Wesley Towne : https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2021/6/22/every-hero-suffers-wesley-towne Preaching Hope in Darkness - Scott Gibson + Karen Mason:  https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2021/1/12/preaching-hope-in-darkness-karen-mason-and-scott-gibsonJoin our private Facebook group to continue the conversation: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExpositorsCollectiveThe Expositors Collective podcast is part of the GoodLion podcast network, for more thought provoking Christian podcasts visit https://goodlion.io

The one notable distinction between Elder and Deacon virtues listened in 1 Timothy 3 and Titus 1 is a single Greek word didaktikos, which has been translated as “Able to teach” “apt to teach”“skilful in teaching” in various English translations. What exactly does that mean? Mike Neglia speaks with David Mathis about this specific Elder qualification and the difference between reluctant occasional teaching and enthusiastic joyful habitual teaching. Paul also says, as his culminating qualification in the Titus 1 list, the pastor-elder “must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it” (Titus 1:9). That is, he must know “the trustworthy word,” and be trained in it, and genuinely “hold firm” to it. But then commences the work of teaching in its twofold sense: feeding the flock (“give instruction in sound doctrine”) and defending the flock (“rebuke those who contradict it”). And if the pastors are poor or ineffective teachers, the sheep go hungry or get eaten. - from https://www.9marks.org/article/pastors-teach/ David Mathis serves as senior teacher and executive editor at desiringGod.org, a pastor at Cities Church in Saint Paul, Minnesota, and an adjunct professor at Bethlehem College & Seminary in Minneapolis. He and his wife, Megan, have four children. He is the author of several books, including Habits of Grace: Enjoying Jesus through the Spiritual Disciplines.Resources mentioned: Workers for your Joy: https://www.crossway.org/press-room/workers-for-your-joy-tpb/ Team Preaching : https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/team-preaching Recommended Episodes: Bivocational Ministry and Lay Elders: https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2022/2/8/bivocational-ministry-and-lay-preachers-sean-gilliam New Jersey Panel Discussion on Bivocational Ministry: https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2020/1/17/episode-84-new-jersey-qampa-panelShowing God’s Love through Expository Preaching: https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2021/4/27/showing-gods-love-through-expository-preaching-john-starke Join our private Facebook group to continue the conversation: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExpositorsCollectiveThe Expositors Collective podcast is part of the GoodLion podcast network, for more thought provoking Christian podcasts visit https://goodlion.io

Mentorship or coaching from an older wiser more experienced preacher is a crucial ingredient if you want to grow in your personal study and public proclamation of Gods word. This episode features testimonials of gratitude from 10 former guest highlighting the leaders who took time out of their schedule to invest in them. We hope that this is an encouragement to seek out a mentor, or to be a mentor to someone else. Phil Newton currently lives in Germantown, TN, after serving in Pastoral ministry for 35+ years at South Woods Baptist Church he has now transitioned to the director of pastoral care and mentoring for the Pillar Network https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2021/7/1/pastoral-preaching-dr-phil-newtonAlan Stoddard - currently serving the Lord the Lord Jesus  in  Granbury, Texas. https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2021/11/9/sermon-based-small-groups-alan-stoddardJohn Hindley serves as teaching Elder at Broadgrace church in Norfolk, England. https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2022/2/15/serving-without-sinking-john-hindleyRonnie Martin is the lead pastor of Substance Church in Ashland, Ohio  https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2021/11/16/advent-and-christmas-preaching-ronnie-martin James Travis is the pastor at Saar Fellowship, an international church in Bahrain in the middle east - he’s been on two episodes https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2020/7/21/how-you-say-what-you-say-james-travis Kike Torres has served as lead pastor of Horizonte Querétaro for 11+ years and he and is the founder and president of the Biblical Counseling Coalition in Mexicohttps://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2021/6/29/god-calls-you-to-intimacy-not-activity-kike-torresChad Brooks is a United Methodist Pastor in Alexandria Lousiana - he hosts the productive pastor podcast, and is a wealth of information about pastoral productivity https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2022/5/17/true-and-false-pastoral-productivity-chad-brooksJohn Chandler is a spiritual director and host of the Consortio Dei podcast  https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2021/6/8/lead-with-curiosity-john-chandler  https://consortiodei.com/ Joe Gamez is the pastor of Calvary San Juan in Washington state  https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2021/1/26/preaching-mentorship-that-actually-works Brian Brodersen serves as the senior pastor of Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa. Brian is also the president of Calvary Chapel Bible College, the Calvary Global Network, and he is the Festival Director of Creation Fest UK. https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2022/7/26/dependence-upon-the-holy-spirit-with-brian-brodersen https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2020/5/19/episode-108-preaching-in-the-power-of-the-spirit  https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2018/8/28/episode-10-the-holy-spirit-martyn-lloyd-jones-and-you Jon Tyson:   Originally from Adelaide Australia, he has now planted and pastors Church of the City New York : https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2021/12/21/theology-that-cannot-be-dismissed-power-that-cannot-be-denied-jon-tyson Mike Neglia is the pastor of Calvary Cork, in the Republic of Ireland. He serves on the Executive Team of Calvary Global Network and is the Team Lead of Expositors Collective  https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2022/5/10/preaching-gospel-centered-sermons-mike-neglia Related Expositors Collective Episodes: Mentorship Q+A Panel  featuring  Ray Bentley, Brian Brodersen, Pilgrim Benham, Shawn Stone and Kellen Criswell https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2019/11/4/episode-72-preaching-mentorships-qaMike Payne on Mentorship (with Hungarian translation!) : https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2020/12/8/the-value-of-preaching-mentorships-michael-payneJohn Hwang on Preaching Mentorships (with Q+A Panel)  https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2022/8/30/preaching-mentorships-with-john-hwang-panel-discussion 15 things I learned in a mentorship relationship - John HwangKeep your eyes open for those God brings into your life to mentor.Enter the lives of those you mentor and invite them into yours.Esteem character above gifting; this includes showing them what a sincere, humble confession of sin and an honest, Gospel-shaped dependance on God looks like.Affirm their calling and spiritual gifts and be supportive along the way.Teach them to equip them for the rest of their lives, not just for the immediate moment.Teach them how to read and study the Bible.Model preaching for them by inviting them into your moments of preparation, prayer, and presentation.Model for them how to love and serve all people – not just a particular group – in preaching.Teach them by word and deed to aim for quality over quantity; Christlikeness over cultural-relevance; Spirit-empowered preaching over Spirit-less ingenuity, creativity, and eloquence.Make time with them to have conversations about doctrine and ministry, keeping Christ the center of them all.Introduce them to other Christian voices. Teach them how to listen, teach them how to read, and discuss with them what they are learning.Be willing to take risks with them.Correct when correction is necessary and encourage when encouragement is needed.Don’t attach your identity and worth to their success and failures but show them what a true understanding of your identity and worth in Christ looks like.Be thankful and present when you have them and be thankful and hopeful when God takes them to other places and other people.Join our private Facebook group to continue the conversation: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExpositorsCollectiveThe Expositors Collective podcast is part of the GoodLion podcast network, for more thought provoking Christian podcasts visit https://goodlion.io

Since our preaching builds, affirms and creates the culture of our churches, it is vitally important that we emphasize and consistently hold out not only the gospel itself, but the cultural implications thereof. In this workshop, given at the CGN International Pastors and Leaders Conference in Costa Mesa California back in June of 2022, Mike Neglia, Tim Chaddick and Nick Cady speak about the opportunities (and limitations) of the pulpit for shaping, upholding and communicating gospel culture in the lives of our churches. “As the pastor, you are the primary shaper of the church’s culture. Because you preach most frequently, your beliefs and values are far more influential in steering the culture of the church. What matters to you usually defines what matters to the church. This influence is a grave privilege”  - Deepak Reju +  Jeremy PierreNick Cady is the lead pastor of White Fields Community Church in Longmont, Colorado.Prior to moving to Longmont in 2012, Nick spent 10 years as a missionary, pastor and church planter in Hungary working with Calvary Chapel. He holds a Bachelors degree in Theology from the University of Gloucestershire (UK) and a Masters degree in Integrative Theology from London School of Theology.Nick is on the steering committee of the Expositors Collective, a growing network of pastors, leaders, and laypeople which exists to equip, encourage, and mentor the next generation of Christ-centered preachers by hosting training seminars and providing resources, including a weekly podcast.He also serves with Calvary Global Network as a Local Connector and has developed Cultivate, a program to assess, train, and deploy new church planters and missionaries.You can keep up with Nick on Twitter at @nickcady, on Instagram at @cadynick, or by subscribing to the White Fields Church podcast.Tim Chaddick is the Pastor for Preaching at Reality Ventura and Founding Pastor of Reality Church London and Reality LA. A native to California, Tim's first ten years of church-planting ministry started as the Lead Pastor of Reality LA in 2006, a thriving church in the heart of Hollywood, before planting Reality London in the UK in 2016. In 2021, Tim returned to California to take up the Pastor for Preaching role at Reality Ventura.Recommended episodes:Ray Ortlund - How Gospel Preaching Creates Gospel Culture: https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2020/8/18/how-gospel-preaching-creates-gospel-culture-ray-ortlund Justin Holcomb - Preaching God’s Grace to the Disgraced : https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2022/6/21/preaching-gods-grace-to-the-disgraced-justin-holcombTim Chaddick - What Have You Been Talking About? : https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2022/4/19/what-have-you-been-talking-about-tim-chaddick  Join our private Facebook group to continue the conversation: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExpositorsCollectiveThe Expositors Collective podcast is part of the GoodLion podcast network, for more thought provoking Christian podcasts visit https://goodlion.io

In this engaging and thought-provoking conversation Nick Cady  and Mike Neglia  speak with Robert Fergusson about the value of storytelling in preaching. Our postmodern world cherishes stories of individuals yet is skeptical of an overarching metanarrative - Robert helps us to use the former to communicate the latter. They also speak about what it means to follow the example of Paul in 2 Corinthians 4:5 “For what we proclaim is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, with ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake.” This was recorded in December 2020 and originally broadcast in February of 2021Robert's book "Are you getting this?" is available at Hillsong's website [ https://www.hillsongstore.com/aygt ] or anywhere books are sold. You can follow Robert on Instagram for weekly teaching tips -  https://www.instagram.com/robertfergussonteaching/?hl=en Robert Fergusson has been part of the teaching team at Hillsong Church for the last thirty years. He is English by birth, Australian by choice and European by taste. He has seven growing grandchildren, three married children and one patient wife. He is a biologist by training, but dislikes the colour green. He is a teacher by calling, but hates marking. He loves travelling, reading, photography and coffee. For over forty years he has taught people how to live in order to please God. He and his wife currently live in the parrot-filled suburbs of Sydney.Recommended Episodes: How to not be boring - Nick Cady: https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2019/1/1/episode-28-how-to-not-be-boring I'll be your story Sherpa - Scott Erickson : https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2021/5/11/ill-be-your-story-sherpa-scott-erickson  Finding Your Own Voice - Brian Brodersen :  https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2019/12/2/episode-77-finding-your-own-voiceJoin our private Facebook group to continue the conversation: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExpositorsCollectiveThe Expositors Collective podcast is part of the GoodLion podcast network, for more thought provoking Christian podcasts visit https://goodlion.io