

Airline Weekly Lounge Podcast
Skift
The editors of Airline Weekly discuss the most interesting developments within the commercial airline industry. In keeping with Airline Weekly’s style, conversation generally centers on one question: How do you make money in this industry?
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May 22, 2025 • 34min
Ryanair's Rosy Summer Ahead
In this episode of the Airline Weekly Lounge, hosts Gordon Smith and Jay Shabat delve into the latest financial results of Ryanair, discussing its operational strategies, challenges, and future outlook. They also explore the significant aircraft orders placed by Qatar Airways, analyzing the implications of these deals in the context of the current aviation market and geopolitical factors. The conversation highlights the contrasting business models of low-cost carriers in Europe and the U.S., as well as the resilience of airlines in navigating economic uncertainties.
Takeaways
Ryanair's latest financial results show a negative operating margin due to seasonal factors.
Michael O'Leary's quotes reflect his candid approach to airline management and market dynamics.
Ryanair's summer outlook appears positive, with strong forward bookings and constrained supply.
Fuel prices are down, but Ryanair is heavily hedged against fluctuations.
Qatar Airways has placed a significant order for Boeing aircraft, indicating strong growth plans.
The geopolitical landscape influences Qatar Airways' financial strategies and operational decisions.
Ryanair's cost structure is significantly lower than that of US low-cost carriers like Southwest.
Boeing is facing challenges in meeting the high demand for aircraft, particularly the 787.
Qatar Airways is preparing for potential geopolitical disruptions with financial buffers in their budget.
The competitive landscape for aircraft orders is intense, with multiple manufacturers vying for contracts.
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May 15, 2025 • 36min
Can Singapore Airlines Do It Again?
In this week's show, Gordon Smith and Jay Shabat preview the latest financial results from Singapore Airlines, traditionally one of the world's most profitable long-haul operators. The pair also discuss highlights from an airline leadership conference and the latest Q1 earnings from global carriers.
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May 8, 2025 • 37min
Our Round-the-World Airline Adventure
In this episode of the Airline Weekly Lounge, hosts Gordon Smith and Jay Shabat take listeners on a global tour of the airline industry's Q1 earnings results. They discuss the contrasting fortunes of airlines across Europe, North America, Latin America, and Asia, highlighting optimism amidst challenges, mixed results, and shifts in consumer behavior. The conversation emphasizes the impact of oil prices, demand trends, and the overall uncertainty in the airline market as they look ahead to the summer season and beyond.
Takeaways
Lufthansa and Air France are optimistic despite negative Q1 results.
First quarter is typically weak for European airlines.
Oil prices dropping significantly is beneficial for airlines.
Demand for premium travel remains strong.
JetBlue and Frontier faced significant challenges in Q1.
Sun Country Airlines reported a strong operating margin.
Mexican low-cost carriers are struggling due to changing consumer behavior.
Latam Airlines raised their profit guidance amidst a challenging environment.
Japanese airlines are performing well but face uncertainty from trade issues.
The airline industry is characterized by uncertainty moving forward.
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May 1, 2025 • 24min
U.S. Airlines’ Earnings Season Recap: What the Future Holds
In this episode of the Airline Weekly Lounge, Jay and Meghna discuss the recent Q1 earnings reports from major airlines, highlighting the mixed results and economic concerns affecting the industry. They delve into the challenges faced by American Airlines compared to its rivals, the importance of premium travel, and the potential impact of economic policies on consumer spending. The conversation then shifts to innovations in aviation, including flying cars and supersonic jets, exploring the skepticism surrounding these technologies and the regulatory hurdles they face.
Takeaways
American Airlines reported losses while Delta and United made profits.
Economic concerns are affecting domestic travel demand.
Premium travel remains strong despite economic uncertainty.
Flying cars and supersonic jets are generating significant investment.
Regulatory hurdles pose challenges for aviation innovations.
Airlines are bracing for potential economic downturns.
Consumer spending patterns may shift due to economic policies.
The importance of international travel networks is highlighted.
Airlines are seeing softness in leisure travel markets.
The future of aviation may include air taxis and autonomous flying.
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Apr 24, 2025 • 36min
Korean Air's Financial Flight Path
In this episode, Gordon and Jay delve into the latest financials from Korean Air, highlighting their Q1 earnings, the integration with Asiana Airlines, and the dynamics of the cargo business amidst global trade uncertainties. They also discuss the challenges faced by Chinese airlines, including their financial struggles and the impact of international relations on aircraft orders and operations. The conversation provides insights into the evolving landscape of the aviation industry in Asia.Go deeper with the cover story of the latest issue of Airline Weekly.Takeaways
Korean Air reported a nine percent operating margin for Q1 2025.
Demand for passenger travel remains strong, particularly within Asia.
Korean Air's cargo business is significant, but faces challenges from tariffs.
The integration with Asiana Airlines is ongoing and complex.
Chinese airlines collectively lost nearly a billion dollars in 2024.
China Southern Airlines was the only major Chinese carrier to report a profit.
Domestic travel in China has been a bright spot for the airline industry.
Boeing's reliance on the Chinese market is diminishing due to geopolitical tensions.
Chinese airlines are increasingly dependent on Western parts for their fleets.
Korean Air is introducing a premium economy product to enhance revenue efficiency.
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Apr 17, 2025 • 29min
Delta's Q1 Earnings: Our Key Takeaways
In this episode of the Airline Weekly Lounge, hosts Gordon Smith and Jay Shabat discuss Delta Airlines' recent earnings report, highlighting a solid operating margin and the impact of tariffs and economic uncertainty on the airline industry. They explore the strength of Delta's loyalty program and the demographic trends influencing travel demand, particularly among baby boomers. The conversation also touches on the competitive landscape with United Airlines and the broader implications of fluctuating oil prices on airline profitability.Go deeper with the cover story of the latest issue of Airline Weekly.Takeaways
Delta reported a 4.6% operating margin for Q1.
Demand for premium travel is holding strong despite economic concerns.
Corporate travel has seen a decline compared to previous years.
Tariffs are creating uncertainty in the airline industry.
Delta's loyalty program is a significant revenue driver.
Baby boomers are a key demographic for transatlantic travel.
Delta's balance sheet is improving, providing stability.
Lower oil prices could mitigate future distress for airlines.
United Airlines is facing competition from low-cost carriers.
The overall economic outlook remains uncertain for airlines.
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Apr 10, 2025 • 30min
Making Sense of Market Turmoil
In this episode of the Airline Weekly Lounge, hosts Gordon Smith and Jay Shabbat discuss significant CEO departures in the airline industry, particularly focusing on Spirit Airlines and AirBaltic. They analyze the implications of these changes amidst economic uncertainty, including the impact of tariffs and fluctuating oil prices on airline operations and travel demand. The conversation shifts to the Canadian airline market, exploring how recent economic developments and tariffs are affecting travel patterns and airline strategies in Canada.Takeaways
Martin Gauss has been dismissed as CEO of AirBaltic after 13 years.
Spirit Airlines faces challenges post-bankruptcy with leadership changes.
Economic uncertainty is impacting corporate and leisure travel demand.
Oil prices dropping could benefit airlines amidst economic turmoil.
Air Canada is seeing a 10% decline in US bookings from Canada.
Tariffs on US imports are significantly affecting the Canadian economy.
Porter Airlines is increasing US capacity despite market challenges.
The merger of Republic Airways and Mesa Airlines is a notable industry development.
Airlines may need to adjust capacity in response to market conditions.
The future of airline profitability remains uncertain amidst fluctuating demand.
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Apr 3, 2025 • 26min
Riyadh Air CEO on Building an Airline from Scratch
Tony Douglas, CEO of Riyadh Air and a leader in airline innovation, discusses the ambitious launch of Saudi Arabia's new national carrier. He outlines plans to connect over 100 cities within five years, emphasizing a rigorous Air Operator Certificate (AOC) process. The conversation dives into the airline's commitment to digital transformation, including hyper-personalization of travel experiences. Douglas also reveals strategic partnerships with established airlines and the importance of unique loyalty programs to enhance customer engagement and future growth.

Mar 27, 2025 • 40min
The Dynamic Growth of Air India and Indigo Airlines
The podcast dives into the dynamic changes in Air India, highlighting its transformation under Tata's ownership and the ambitious fleet expansion plans. Indigo Airlines emerges as a major player, thriving through competitive pricing in a booming market. The discussion broadens to Pegasus Airlines in Turkey, showcasing its remarkable post-pandemic profitability and strategic growth initiatives. Cultural integration poses challenges for Air India, while the demand for air travel in India surges, largely fueled by first-time flyers.

Mar 20, 2025 • 35min
The Kings of the Caribbean
In this week’s episode, Gordon and Jay delve into the Caribbean airline market, highlighting key players like American Airlines and the emerging low-cost carrier Aerojet from the Dominican Republic. They discuss the competitive landscape, including JetBlue's dominance in the New York to Santo Domingo route. The conversation then shifts to Lufthansa, examining its recent financial struggles, the impact of Germany's economic challenges, and the delays in acquiring new aircraft. The hosts speculate on the future of Lufthansa as it attempts to improve profitability and navigate a complex airline environment.Takeaways
The Caribbean airline market is dynamic and competitive.
American Airlines is the largest player in the Caribbean.
JetBlue is a significant competitor in the New York to Santo Domingo route.
Aerojet is a new low-cost carrier from the Dominican Republic.
Lufthansa's mainline lost money in 2024 despite strong demand.
Germany's economic struggles have impacted Lufthansa's performance.
Lufthansa has faced delays in acquiring next-generation aircraft.
The Allegrius rollout is crucial for Lufthansa's future success.
2025 is viewed as a transition year for Lufthansa.
The Caribbean market has potential for growth despite challenges.
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