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This podcast will take you on a smart, direct, sometimes scary, sometimes profane, sometimes hilarious tour of the inner workings of American power and of the impact of our leaders and their policies on our standing in the world. Hosted by noted author and commentator David Rothkopf and featuring regulars Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law School, Kori Schake of AEI, and Ed Luce of the Financial Times, the program will be the lively, smart dinner table conversation on the big issues of the day that you wish you were having...without the calories. Sometimes special guests will join the conversation and always the emphasis will be on providing the unvarnished perspectives others shy away from. Deep State Radio is the insider perspective on American national security and foreign policy that you can't find anywhere else.If you are enjoying this podcast, please consider becoming a member by visiting thedsrnetwork.com.
Latest episodes

May 9, 2025 • 34min
Siliconsciousness: The AI Con: A Conversation with Dr. Alex Hanna and Dr. Emily Bender
In this enlightening discussion, Dr. Alex Hanna, a sociologist and director at the Distributed AI Research Institute, teams up with Dr. Emily Bender, a professor of linguistics at the University of Washington. They delve into the hype surrounding AI, questioning whether it's fueling inequality. The conversation takes on the complexities of AI terminology, warning against oversimplification that can obscure risks. They also tackle how biases in technology reinforce systemic issues and critique big tech’s influence over policy, urging a rethinking of the future we want.

May 9, 2025 • 26min
The Daily Blast: MAGA Rage Erupts as New Pope’s Views of Trump Prove Unexpectedly Harsh
Matt McManus, a political theorist raised in the Catholic Church and author of "The Political Right and Equality," dives into the uproar among MAGA supporters following the election of Pope Leo XIV. He analyzes the Pope's critical stance on Trump and immigration, contrasting it with MAGA narratives. McManus discusses the clash between Catholic ethics and Trumpism, exploring themes of compassion and the moral responsibilities that transcend political divides. His insights reveal a refusal among contemporary right-wing figures to confront the ethical implications of their beliefs.

May 9, 2025 • 29min
The DSR Daily for May 9: Robert Prevost Becomes First American Pope
In a groundbreaking turn of events, Robert Prevost has been elected as the first American pope, sparking hope for peace and inclusivity within the church. The political landscape heats up as Trump appoints a Fox News host as interim attorney, raising eyebrows about her controversial ties. The ban on transgender service members from the military ignites discussions on diversity. The firing of the Librarian of Congress raises questions about censorship and cultural preservation. All this unfolds amid cheerful banter about the joys of early May.

May 8, 2025 • 46min
Why Having an American Pope May Be Bad News for Trump
Norm Ornstein, a political scientist and commentator, joins to discuss the ramifications of having an American Pope who critiques the U.S. government. He argues that this shift could complicate Trump's political landscape, especially as the Pope emphasizes social justice. The conversation also dissects tariff deals between Trump and the UK, questioning their authenticity. Ornstein highlights the tension between the pope's advocacy for marginalized communities and current political policies while addressing the moral implications of trade decisions.

May 8, 2025 • 22min
The DSR Daily for May 8: What's Inside These Big Trump Promises?
A humorous exploration kicks off the discussion, touching on generational differences in news consumption. The complexities of Trump's proposed trade deal with the UK are scrutinized alongside rising tensions between India and Pakistan. The proposed FBI budget cuts raise concerns about law enforcement's future. Attention shifts to the papal conclave, where the absence of decision hints at deeper issues within the church. Lastly, Trump's upcoming announcement is analyzed, with debates about its potential impact and the turmoil within the GOP.

May 8, 2025 • 27min
The Daily Blast: Trump Erupts as GOPers Quietly Nix Key US Attorney Pick, Enraging MAGA
In a compelling discussion, Kristy Parker, a former federal prosecutor and counsel at Protect Democracy, delves into the political turbulence enveloping Donald Trump's U.S. Attorney nominee, Ed Martin. With Senator Thom Tillis voicing dissent, Parker highlights the implications for judicial integrity in the wake of January 6th. She argues against placing a MAGA-aligned figure in such a pivotal role, stressing the need to uphold the rule of law. Parker's cautious optimism about resisting Trump's influence showcases a critical moment for American democracy and civic responsibility.

May 7, 2025 • 33min
The DSR Daily for May 7: India Strikes Pakistan
India's recent military strikes on Pakistan spark serious discussions about geopolitical tensions. Amidst this, the hosts delve into the complicated U.S.-China trade talks, emphasizing the need for clearer strategies. They humorously critique the Trump administration's controversial deportation plan to Libya. In lighter moments, nostalgia for childhood dolls contrasts with these heavy themes, making for an entertaining and engaging exploration of pressing global issues.

May 7, 2025 • 23min
The Daily Blast: Trump’s Odd New Tariff Musings Show How Badly He’s Screwing His Voters
Matt Hildreth, Executive Director of RuralOrganizing.org and a veteran Democratic operative, dives into the mounting crises facing rural America under Trump’s policies. He discusses the alarming impact of ongoing tariffs on farmers, exposing the disconnect between political rhetoric and harsh economic realities. Hildreth also highlights a significant decline in Trump’s support among rural voters, reflecting their growing frustrations. The conversation uncovers the vital role of local news and the implications of proposed cuts to healthcare and food assistance, marking a pivotal moment in rural electoral dynamics.

May 6, 2025 • 43min
America's Deepening Health & Science Crisis is Worse Than You Think
Join Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Laurie Garrett and health policy expert Dr. Kavita Patel as they dissect America's escalating health and science crisis. They delve into the alarming drop in scientific funding and its repercussions, stressing the urgent need for integrity in research. The conversation reveals a looming two-tiered healthcare system, where access to medications becomes increasingly unequal. With an emphasis on critical inquiry, they encourage listeners to engage thoughtfully with health information and advocate for essential services amidst budget cuts.

May 6, 2025 • 21min
The DSR Daily for May 6: Secretary Hegseth Slashes 20% of Generals
The podcast dives into Secretary Hegseth's decision to cut 20% of military generals, raising alarms about political influence in the armed forces. Trump’s new scheme for incentivizing self-deportation takes center stage, stirring debate on immigration policy. The ongoing battle over mifepristone and its protection amidst legal chaos highlights the clash between federal and state healthcare regulations. Plus, Alberta's potential push for separation from Canada under Premier Smith signals a dramatic shift in political dynamics.