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This podcast will take you on a smart, direct, sometimes scary, sometimes profane, sometimes hilarious tour of the inner workings of American power and of the impact of our leaders and their policies on our standing in the world. Hosted by noted author and commentator David Rothkopf and featuring regulars Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law School, Kori Schake of AEI, and Ed Luce of the Financial Times, the program will be the lively, smart dinner table conversation on the big issues of the day that you wish you were having...without the calories. Sometimes special guests will join the conversation and always the emphasis will be on providing the unvarnished perspectives others shy away from. Deep State Radio is the insider perspective on American national security and foreign policy that you can't find anywhere else.If you are enjoying this podcast, please consider becoming a member by visiting thedsrnetwork.com.
Latest episodes

Apr 17, 2025 • 16min
The DSR Daily for April 17: Trump’s War with Harvard
The podcast dives into the escalating clash between Trump and Harvard, as the administration targets the university's tax-exempt status over policy disagreements. It also discusses Trump's demand for the Fed chair's firing amid economic challenges. Listeners can learn about intriguing developments regarding international diplomacy and the ongoing talks about the war in Ukraine. Plus, there's an exploration of recent court rulings that challenge the administration's authority, highlighting the tension between judicial actions and political maneuvers.

Apr 17, 2025 • 22min
The Daily Blast: Fiasco for Trump as Judge Threatens Contempt amid New Warning in Polls
Melissa Gira Grant, staff writer at The New Republic, dives into the troubling implications of a federal judge's ruling against Trump’s immigration policies. She discusses the probable cause for criminal contempt over deporting Venezuelans to El Salvador, backed by a shocking case involving a senator’s visit. Poll analysis reveals Trump’s precarious standing on immigration, hinting at a potential political fiasco. Grant also critiques the Trump administration's 'deportation TV' tactics and the resulting backlash in immigrant communities.

Apr 16, 2025 • 49min
What Would Kissinger and Brzezinski Think of Trump?
Ed Luce, a Financial Times columnist and author specializing in US foreign policy, joins David Rothkopf to examine how historical figures like Kissinger and Brzezinski would assess Trump's unconventional foreign policy. They discuss the evolution of diplomacy and the importance of historical context in modern challenges. Luce highlights the implications of American exceptionalism, critiques current strategies toward China and Russia, and shares insights from his upcoming book, emphasizing the need for deeper intellectual engagement in politics.

Apr 16, 2025 • 22min
The DSR Daily for April 16: A Gloomy Economic Forecast
The podcast tackles the World Trade Organization's grim economic forecast for 2025, attributing it to rising U.S. tariffs. It also delves into the complexities of immigration policy amidst criticisms of the current administration. A heated town hall with protests raises questions about press freedom and public dissent. Additionally, the hosts discuss a controversial UK Supreme Court ruling impacting gender identity, sparking diverse reactions and broader implications for human rights.

Apr 16, 2025 • 21min
The Daily Blast: Trump’s Unhinged Tirade at Harvard Actually Reveals Big MAGA Weakness
In a thought-provoking discussion, guest Jonathan Friedman, managing director of PEN America's Free Expression Program, delves into Harvard's bold refusal to yield to Trump's recent outbursts. He examines how Trump's threats against the university reveal a deeper weakness for the MAGA movement. The conversation touches on the need for institutions to stand together against political intimidation and the potential benefits of a united front in defending free speech. Friedman highlights the importance of higher education in safeguarding democracy and societal progress.

Apr 15, 2025 • 20min
The DSR Daily for April 15: Fallout from the Trump/Bukele Meeting
This episode dives into the aftermath of the controversial Trump/Bukele meeting. It highlights a drastic proposal to cut State Department funding, stirring concerns over U.S. diplomacy. The chilling idea to deport U.S. citizens to El Salvador raises ethical alarms. Additionally, there's uproar over the withholding of $2.2 billion from Harvard, igniting debates on academic freedom. The discussions also touch on rising tensions around rhetoric and scapegoating affecting Jewish communities.

Apr 15, 2025 • 23min
The Daily Blast: “Horrifying”: Trump’s Angry New Rants to Media Openly Defy SCOTUS
Asawin Suebsaeng, a senior political reporter at Rolling Stone and adjunct professor, discusses alarming developments in Trump's immigration policies. He reveals how Trump plans to ramp up lawless deportations, openly defying Supreme Court rulings. Their conversation touches on Trump’s troubling alignment with authoritarian leaders, the potential for deporting U.S. citizens, and the erosion of democratic governance. Suebsaeng's insights paint a horrifying picture of the political landscape and its implications for civil rights.

Apr 14, 2025 • 36min
Siliconsciousness: What the Trump Administration Gets Right about AI Policy
Doug Calidas, Senior VP of Government Affairs for Americans for Responsible Innovation and an AI policy expert, joins David Rothkopf to discuss the Trump administration's strengths in AI policy. They explore how U.S. AI strategy is shaped by global competition, particularly with China. The conversation touches on the balance of tariffs and industrial policies, including semiconductor manufacturing. Calidas emphasizes the importance of bipartisan collaboration in addressing environmental concerns and adapting immigration policies in the age of AI.

Apr 14, 2025 • 33min
AI, Energy and Climate: Laura Cozzi: IEA's Energy and AI Report
Laura Cozzi, Director for Sustainability, Technology and Outlooks at the IEA, discusses groundbreaking insights from the IEA's recent report on energy and AI. She highlights the rising electricity demand driven by AI, particularly from data centers, and the collaborative effort needed between tech and energy sectors. The conversation delves into the promising role of nuclear energy, especially small modular reactors, in meeting low-carbon goals. Cozzi emphasizes AI's potential to optimize energy practices and reduce emissions, while addressing the global digital divide in energy access.

Apr 14, 2025 • 17min
The DSR Daily for April 14: Oh Good, Even More Tariffs
Spring vibes kick off with a lively look at breaking news in D.C. The discussion heats up with Trump’s controversial new tariffs on semiconductors, raising concerns over economic instability and inflation. A shocking arson incident at the Pennsylvania governor's mansion is scrutinized, highlighting the need for accountability in politics. The hosts also dive into issues of deportation and human rights, before lightening the mood with celebrity gossip and listener interactions.