

Where Finance Finds Its Future
Future of Finance
The New Face of Finance, Where Finance Finds Its Future. Future of Finance has one overriding goal. It is to host meetings (at the moment virtual meetings) that bring together long established members of the financial services industry (banks, brokers, asset managers, insurers, financial market infrastructures) with entrepreneurs (challenger banks, technology companies and FinTechs) and market authorities (central banks, regulators and policymakers) to explore how the financial services industry can grow faster by being more open, more innovative and more trustworthy. If you would like to get in touch about featuring on a podcast, please email wendy.gallagher@futureoffinance.biz Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Jan 24, 2024 • 1h 9min
21X: The European token exchange with a reassuringly German personality
A Future of Finance interview with Max Heinzle, CEO of 21X21X is a Frankfurt-headquartered token issuance, trading and settlement platform built on blockchain technology, and underpinned by a group of long-term investors, that expects to be the first to receive a licence to operate under the EU DLT Pilot Regime that allows operators of market infrastructures to test blockchain technology in the issuance, trading and settlement of tokenised financial instruments. The boldness of the company strategy is evident in its preference for a public, non-permissioned blockchain network, and the fullness of its commitment to automating as many functions as possible by the use of smart contracts. That said, the founders of 21X are astute enough to recognise that it will be easier to attract issuers and investors by working with rather than against the incumbent institutions that currently own those relationships, and within the regulatory frameworks that institutions prefer. They are confident that the shareholders of 21X support their long-term strategy and that the regulators would like to see the business succeed and thrive within the parameters set by investor protection and financial stability. Interestingly, 21X has also chosen Germany, the surprising market leader in digital asset market innovation in Europe, as its initial base of operations. Dominic Hobson, co-founder of Future of Finance, spoke to Max Heinzle, CEO of 21x, about where the company came from, where its I now, and where it intends to be in five years’ time. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 20, 2023 • 50min
The Swiss token exchange creating a market for small company shares
A Future of Finance interview with Nicola Plain, CEO of Aktionariat. Success in tokenising equity is unusual. Most issues of tokens are asset-backed versions of existing bonds or fund shares. So the fact that Zurich-based token platform Aktionariat has succeeded in attracting a variety of small company issuers is a considerable achievement. The goal of the firm is to help start-ups and SMEs, initially in Switzerland but eventually around the world, raise equity capital from third parties at low cost. Its strategy is to reduce dramatically the costs of issuance and post-issuance operations such as settlement and registration. Aktionariat has also formed a string of partnerships with specialist service providers and with SDX, the digital arm of the Swiss stock exchange, which helps the company secure access to the clients of the Swiss private banks. An ingenious liquidity model, based on the principal-based trading of shares in mutual funds, meant that by the end of 2022 Aktionariat was already host to 29 issuers, had as many companies again preparing to issue, and had identified dozens more on a target list that ultimately spans the entirety of the enormous Swiss private company market. Dominic Hobson, co-founder of Future of Finance, spoke to Nicola Plain, CEO of Aktionariat, about where the company came from, what it has achieved so far and what it plans to accomplish in the future. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 18, 2023 • 27min
What We Know and Do Not Know About CBDCs (So Far)
A year and a half may have elapsed since the last central bank digital currency (CBDC) was issued. But the work at and by central banks, banks, supranational organisations and technology vendors has continued. The accompanying output of policy statements, academic papers, discussion documents and accounts of experiments is a vast but rich source of experience and information. Which is why a team at R3, a leading force in the digitisation of financial markets and a participant in multiple CBDC projects, embarked on a review of the literature that has accumulated about CBDCs. Dominic Hobson, co-founder of Future of Finance, spoke to Alisa DiCaprio, the Chief Economist at R3 who lead the investigation, about what the review unveiled about how CBDCs are being designed, issued and operated, and learned what CBDC designers everywhere still lack: a trove of empirical data about the impact of CBDCs on the behaviour of money, markets and especially consumers. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 1, 2023 • 1h 1min
The Future of Money is Now Visible: What Does It Mean for You?
Once true digital money is available on blockchain networks, the token revolution will begin. What that money will be is coming into focus. The idea that cryptocurrencies and Stablecoins will one day replace fiat currencies seems less realistic today than at any time since blockchain technology was first applied to traditional financial markets. In fact, the most plausible future of money is now one in which an inverted pyramid of tokenised deposits sits on top of a fulcrum made of central bank digital currencies (CBDCs). It looks awfully like a past and present in which commercial bank money (including e-money) sits on a fulcrum of central bank money. Which suggests that national and international monetary establishments have reasserted their control of money, defeating the ambitions of the libertarians and the innovators that spawned myriad cryptocurrencies. The truth is more complex. The innovative ideas and technologies of the cryptocurrency pioneers are now being embedded in a monetary system that is evolving towards faster, cheaper, more transparent and more open forms of money and payment but which has yet to find its equilibrium. Instead of re-visiting details, such as CBDC design choices or the regulation of Stablecoins, this webinar discussion will stick to a higher-level question: What is the likeliest future of money now?What topics will be discussed?Is regulation intended to restore public confidence in cryptocurrencies or destroy it?Are CBDCs in major currencies ready to move beyond the experimental stage?Are CBDCs a workable solution to inefficiency in cross-border payments?Are CBDCs relevant to making domestic payments faster?Are Stablecoins now a relic of the cryptocurrency past?Are tokenised deposits a glimpse at the future of commercial bank money?Is atomic settlement a flawed concept?Why is netting making a comeback?Where do Fnality, Partior and the ideas of The Regulated Liability Network (RLN) fit into the future of money?Has T+1 accelerated or postponed the payments revolution?Is tokenised, programmable money a reality already?Could all forms of digital money and digital assets be issued, traded, stored and serviced on a common, programmable platform?Who is on the panel?Matthew OsborneSenior Manager for Payments Policy at Bank of England https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-osborne-49552716/Jack FletcherHead of Policy and Government Relations (Digital Currencies) at R3 https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-fletcher-465060101/Mathias StudachHead Finance, Risk and Organisational Development at SDX https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathias-studach-77a427a0/Moderated by Dominic HobsonCo-Founder at Future of Finance https://www.linkedin.com/in/dominic-hobson-49b8222/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 20, 2023 • 54min
The exchange with an insatiable appetite to disrupt
Competition in equities trading in developed markets is now so well-established that it seems to have existed forever. In reality it is as much a creation of regulators as of the digital technology that has enabled stock markets to dispense with physical floors and reach across national borders. True, NASDAQ can trace its history back to 1971, but competition was massively accelerated in the United States by Regulation National Market System (or Reg NMS) of 2005. A similar measure in Europe, the first iteration of the Markets in Financial Instruments Directive (MiFID) in 2007, began the process of breaking the domestic stock exchange monopolies of the member-states of the European Union (EU). But now the future lie clearly with the digitisation of data and the digitalisation of processes. Someone who has been at the heart of disruption and innovation in the stock exchange industry throughout the years of upheaval is Alasdair Haynes, the founder and CEO of Aquis Exchange, which he set up in 2012 after spells as CEO at both Chi-X Europe (now part of Cboe) and ITG International (now Virtu), to prove his belief that subscription revenue and the Cloud are as relevant to stock exchanges as large corporations. He spoke to Dominic Hobson, co-founder of Future of Finance. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 6, 2023 • 1h 6min
Can the carbon credit markets institutionalise and tokenise at the same time?
The voluntary carbon credit market has emerged rapidly as a market-friendly way of combating climate change. It has attracted blockchain-based entrepreneurs that see carbon credits as ripe for tokenisation, in large part because a novel idea developed by people outside the traditional financial services industry has yet to develop an infrastructure capable of hosting issuers, investors and traders safely. Greenwashing, double-counting, lack of transparent prices, an absence of trustworthy intermediaries and even outright fraud are prevalent. Existing efforts to overcome the lack of information and integrity in carbon offset projects have not met with success but both policymakers and institutional quality infrastructure providers are now getting involved, and hopes are rising that the carbon credit market will grow rapidly. But there are formidable obstacles to overcome.What topics will be discussed?Carbon taxes are a mess (e.g., fossil fuels are subsidised as well as taxed, and at differential rates). Is that good or bad for the carbon credit market?What is preventing the carbon credit market from growing?Registries do not seem to have solved the integrity problem in carbon credit markets. What can (e.g., the ICVCM Core Carbon Principles (CCPs))?Which bodies – securities or futures or commodities regulators – should regulate the carbon credit markets?The Taskforce on Scaling Voluntary Carbon Markets (TSVCM) advocated “core” carbon spot and futures contracts as “reference contracts” for other carbon credits. Has that idea progressed?Can and should carbon credit contracts be standardised?Can existing securities and commodities market infrastructures play a role – or is a completely new infrastructure required?How might carbon credit markets can be linked to ETS markets, potentially enhancing liquidity?Is tokenisation an appropriate technology for the carbon credit market?Does it make more sense to issue carbon credits natively on to a blockchain or to tokenise existing carbon credits?Is the lack of digital money a problem in the tokenised carbon credit markets as it is in the other token markets (and, if so, are Stablecoins an answer?)What might the carbon credits market of the near future actually look like?How durable are carbon credits as an asset class? To what extent are asset managers and asset owners deluding themselves that sustainable investing can also deliver high returns (echoing politicians that dress up costs as benefits)?Who is on the panel?James C. Row, Founder and Managing Partner at Entoro Capital, LLC, a middle-market, traditional and alternative investment bank based in Houston, Texas, and CEO of Capturiant. Deanna Reitman, Partner Head of Carbon and Commodities at DLA PiperSean Mullins, Senior Vice President – Digital Assets and Financial Markets at Northern Trust Gbemi Oluleye, Assistant Professor (Lecturer), at Imperial College LondonModerated by Dominic Hobson, Co-Founder at Future of Finance Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 16, 2023 • 49min
How R3 gets blockchain projects done
A Future of Finance interview with Co-founders of R3, Chief Technology Officer Richard Brown and Chief Strategy Officer Todd Mcdonald.R3 first came to public attention in 2015 when a group of major financial institutions and technology vendors backed the company to work out how blockchain technologies could be applied to regulated financial markets. More than six years on, R3 is the established enterprise software company behind a host of live and soon-to-be-live blockchain-based networks across multiple asset classes. In that time, its founders have learned a great deal about how regulated financial institutions think about and adopt blockchain technology, the balance that must be struck between competition and collaboration, the importance of inter-operability between networks and how to build a business case within a major financial institution. Dominic Hobson, co-founder of Future of Finance spoke to two of the founders of R3, Chief Technology Officer Richard Brown and Chief Strategy Officer Todd Mcdonald, about their experience and their expectations for the future. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 5, 2023 • 44min
Nasdaq explains how, CSDs and CCPs can evolve this technology and embrace tokenisation
A Future of Finance interview with Gerard Smith, vice president and head of product-digital assets, at Nasdaq (Marketplace Technology).Financial market infrastructures (FMIs), from exchanges through central counterparty clearing houses (CCPs) to central securities depositories (CSD), must maintain a difficult balance between regulatory compliance, technological stability and operational resilience and the need to expand capabilities, contain costs and future-proof their franchises through technological transformation. A recent survey of post-trade developments, published by Nasdaq in conjunction with ValueExchange, found FMIs and their clients wrestling with what might be called the Tancredi Test: “If we want things to stay as they are, things will have to change.” Dominic Hobson, co-founder of Future of Finance, spoke to Gerard Smith, vice president and head of product-digital assets, at Nasdaq (Marketplace Technology), about what the survey tells us of FMI responses to budget constraints, user demands, T+1, AI and blockchain technologies and tokenisation. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sep 20, 2023 • 33min
The first priority in data is to manage the compliance risk
A Future of Finance interview with Peter Gargone, CEO of Ntier Financial Services.Data is now at the heart of every efficiency initiative in financial services: investing, trading, operations, risk management and compliance. The advent of blockchain and artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning (ML) technologies are altering the nature of the relationship between data and technology, even as they make it easier to solve some age-old problems in data aggregation and management. Peter Gargone is CEO of Ntier Financial Services, a company he set up more than 20 years ago after experiencing at first hand the challenges investment banks faced in managing and using their data. Dominic Hobson, co-founder of Future of Finance, spoke to him about how regulatory demands are revealing new opportunities in the processing and integration of both internal and external data. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Aug 9, 2023 • 56min
UNTITLED GEN aims to become the Aladdin of the digital art market
In the minds of many, the digital art market is indelibly associated with Non-Fungible Tokens (NFTs), which boomed and then bust in 2021-22, accompanied by the further taint of money laundering and insider dealing. But art was digital long before OpenSea sought to democratise it and its future remains sufficiently rosy for Sotheby’s to have launched a peer-to-peer digital art market of its own in the Spring of 2023. What digital art has lacked is what the art market has lacked – namely, data on which to base valuations – and with less excuse than its analogue ancestor. After all, the digital art market is as surrounded and saturated by digitised data as any other market. But until now the digital art market has lacked not only its equivalents of Bloomberg or Reuters to provide the relevant data but the equivalent of BlackRock Aladdin to aggregate and analyse it. UNTITLED GEN, a quantitative investment advisory firm that is using artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning (ML) to sift digitised data for information useful to digital artists and digital art investors, has emerged to plug the gap. Dominic Hobson, co-founder of Future of Finance, spoke to Clemens Wessendorff and Simon Zimmerman, the co-founders of UNTITLED GEN. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


