

The Fit2Fat2Fit Experience
Drew Manning
The Fit2Fat2Fit Experience Podcast features Drew and Lynn Manning of www.fit2fat2fit.com and www.2fitathome.com. They bring their unique perspective on health and fitness to the podcasting world. Drew gained international media attention from his journey of gaining and losing 75 lbs. on purpose by blogging and writing a NY Times Best Selling book about it (Fit2Fat2Fit) and his wife, Lynn, is a women's fitness specialist, but is also an admitted "foodie". With this unique balance they dive into why diets don't work. People lose weight only to gain it back. Why does it seem so hard? Because focusing on just nutrition and exercise is missing the mark. Overall health and wellness is key to long-term success and often our industry neglects this. They answer your questions and interview leaders in the industry to share secrets about real transformation and long term success. Change comes from the inside out so join us on this journey!
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Dec 8, 2015 • 1h 13min
EP015: Simple Scientific Steps to Allow Your Body to Heal Itself
The human body is a machine designed to heal itself. It is capable of producing exactly what your cells need if given the right fuel (aka the proper nutrients). But before you put any food in your mouth, you need to feed your head. Positive thoughts and confidence can simplify your new lifestyle change. Allow your body to tell you what it wants and needs. There is a movement afoot to prevent chronic illnesses by way of proper nutrition. But until that takes hold, you need to look after yourself and your loved ones with activities that bring you joy, and with foods that empower your cells. .
Key Takeaways:
[4:51] Increasing hormones through song and dance
[6:59] We are hardwired to learn through our auditory senses
[10:00] Improving your nutrient profile improves your health
[12:25] Shawn felt like he should be a doctor, but not in the traditional sense
[13:54] At 15, Shawn was given drugs for a broken hip instead of nutritional information
[15:29] The nocebo effect is scientifically proven
[18:06] It’s all in your mind
[18:47] Shawn “Fluffy” Combs made a decision to get well
[20:55] Nutrition and hydration
[23:13] Raw materials allow the body to rebuild itself
[25:08] Calcium supplements increase risk of heart attack and stroke
[27:29] Find strategic ways to sneak green, leafy vegetables into your diet
[29:51] Reversing chronic illnesses by changing your lifestyle
[33:08] People noticed the transformation after 9 months
[36:58] Classically trained doctors go through medical training, but not nutritional training
[38:10] Health care professionals may live 10 years less than their patients
[41:22] Nutrigenomics - The power of food
[43:58] Listen to your own body
[46:13] Humans have tried to eat everything
[48:32] Eating raw foods only, is like being on an extended cleanse
[50:00] Be true to yourself, whatever you choose to do
[54:12] Lynn is a much evolved human being
[55:10] Be the example you want your kids to see and mimic
[1:01:32] Contact Shawn and listen to his podcast, The Model Health Show
[1:03:30] The Lightning Round
[1:08:56] Creating Shawn’s most embarrassing moment
Sponsors:
MRM USA
Dollar Workout Club
Mentions:
The Model Health Show
The Model Health Show Website
@shawnmodel
The Shawn Model on FB
Mind Over Medicine
Dr. Oz
The Hormone Cure - Sara Gottfried
Man vs Wild
Fit2Fat2Fit
@fit2fat2fit
2FitatHome
@2fitatHome

Dec 1, 2015 • 57min
EP014: It Doesn’t Matter Where You’ve Been, it Only Matters Where You are Going with Shaun T
In this refreshingly open and honest conversation with Shaun T, we explore the beauty of believing in ourselves. Shaun experienced mental and physical abuse from an authority figure when he was young. He knew this type of environment is toxic, so he decided to head to LA to become a dancer. He now encourages people to be the best they can be by enhancing their lives with workout programs designed to uplift the body and the soul. He makes his decisions based on love and leads by example. “We only have one life to live,” he says and he intends to make the most of it.
Key Takeaways:
[3:57] How did Drew and Shaun T meet?
[6:45] Shaun closed himself up to the world until the age of 14
[9:47] Gaining 50 pounds led to Shaun’s fitness journey
[12:02] Driving across the country to become a professional dancer
[15:11] Shaun met his husband in New York but eventually moved to Arizona
[16:33] Ten years with Beachbody allowed Shaun to enhance people’s lives
[20:21] Developing a new workout is draining, both physically and emotionally
[24:46] Staying positive and spontaneous starts with answering “what is it that you want?”
[27:12] Accepting your body type and all of its changes
[30:20] Don’t forget about the overweight person - it’s the person who started your journey
[33:21] Dealing with prejudice about homosexuality was easier for me than my husband
[37:22] Sexuality is more about who you love and not about sex
[40:03] We only have one life
[41:18] My Diet is Better than Yours, premier airs on January 7th on ABC
[44:52] The Lightning Round - Using your assets
[49:43] Shaun and Lynn are moving to a nudist colony
[52:31] Six months of apple crisp isn’t enough to motivate Shaun to do a Fit2Fat2Fit journey
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Mentions:
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Insanity
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My Diet is Better than Yours - Premier airs January 7th on ABC
Fit2Fat2Fit
2Fitathome

Nov 24, 2015 • 51min
EP013: Words have Power, so Talk Nicely to Yourself with Simply Sadie Jane
Many people think of getting fit or weight-loss as a purely physical thing, but Drew reminds us of the mental and emotional challenges, which can be the toughest part of the journey. Our guest, Simply Sadie Jane shares with us the best fitness advice she ever received, a daily affirmation that helped her attain her goal. She also opens up about her experiences of being a heavier person for most of her life and how she was able to overcome her previous habits to become the satisfied, fit person she is today.
Key Takeaways:
[5:06] Sadie started the blog because she was inspired by the women she was helping
[8:45] I wanted to be healthy for my kids so I changed my nutrition
[12:33] Doctors and nurses can be really unhealthy
[15:06] I realized there was no balance and that you need to let stuff go if you can’t get it done
[18:22] I used Crossfit to get the most out of my body, now we have one in our garage
[21:09] Craigslist is a great place to find used exercise equipment
[25:37] Start improving your Crossfit forms at home, which will make it easier when you get to the gym
[27:22] We work out at home and at the gym
[30:41] Stop saying you are going to start over and just take it one day at a time
[33:13] The best advice Sadie ever received was a mantra
[37:00] Positive affirmations are NOT just for women
[39:06] The Lightning Round! Channing Tat-YUM
[47:48] Being the heavy cheerleader was tough, so I wouldn’t want to go back
[49:17] Contact information for Simply Sadie Jane
Mentions:
Hylete Fitness Apparel - Up to 50% off
Dollar Workout Club
Xcel Fitness - Holiday
Periscope
Simply Sadie Jane
@simplysadiejane
Fit2Fat2Fit
@fit2fat2fit
2Fitathome
@2fitathome

Nov 17, 2015 • 45min
EP012: Using Exercise to Clear Your Mind with Tim Ballard of Operation Underground Railroad
Drew and Tim Ballard met at their mutual workout club in Utah. When Drew found out what Tim did for a living, he and Heidi started contributing to Operation Underground Railroad. The organization rescues children who have been enslaved into the sex trade industry. They are involved in missions all over the world, including inside U.S. borders. Tim says his exercise program allows him to keep himself strong in mind and body. Be warned, there are parts of this episode that you might find disturbing due to the subject matter. Please turn that disturbance into a donation to Operation Underground Railroad.
Key Takeaways:
[1:43] Background information about Tim & Operation Underground Railroad
[6:15] Tim worked for the CIA & Homeland Security but didn’t want to work in child crime
[8:32] The hardest part was seeing the kids who couldn’t be rescued because of their jurisdiction
[10:59] But sex slavery doesn’t happen in the United States, right? *sensitive content*
[14:07] The government doesn’t offer any rehabilitation, private organizations are needed to help
[17:36] Tim uses his faith and CrossFit to emotionally enjoy his time with his family after work
[19:38] CrossFit reached out to us and became our corporate sponsor
[24:30] Big celebrity names help us promote what we are doing
[27:24] Our goal is to show the kids who they really are and what potential they have
[29:20] Operations are varied and we are building technology tools
[35:05] Is there a danger in being a volunteer or a part of this organization?
[38:56] The more resources we get the more kids we can save
[40:41] Visit CrossFit box in Draper, Utah and see the Abolitionist movie to support the cause
Mentions:
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@Fit2Fat2Fit
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@2FitatHome
2FitatHome

Nov 10, 2015 • 1h 1min
EP011: Don’t Sacrifice Your Love of Food, Use Spices to Jazzy Things Up with Jasmine Schmalhaus
If you think eating healthy means you need to spend hours in the kitchen doing meal prep, you need to listen to this episode. We have insider secrets on how to make basic or staple foods in advance and simply add spices when you are ready to heat and eat your meals. “Getting recipes from someone whose favorite meal is pancakes works for me” says Lynn. Jasmine shares with us how a Groupon changed her free ice cream everyday life into a healthy life which includes 6 healthy recipe cookbooks and powerlifting workouts.
Key Takeaways:
[5:23] What exactly does Jasmine do?
[6:12] Social media is a big shift in sharing common interests
[7:58] Jasmine got free ice cream every day at her HR position at Nestle
[11:56] Someone suggested writing an e-cookbook
[14:24] Jasmine had support but everyone said she was crazy to quit her job in 2013
[18:37] You can make your favorite food into a healthy, affordable meal
[21:32] Jasmine’s Instagram account is filled with creative, delicious recipes
[23:09] Meal prep can be simple, don’t underestimate seasoning
[26:24] Jazzy’s top 5 seasonings
[29:22] Daily habits can help you to keep your health and fitness goals
[32:40] Jazzy’s daily routine starts with your favorite breakfast
[37:43] Reading is very important because it gives you time to re-focus
[40:26] Powerlifting for strength not for mass is Jasmine’s workout routine
[45:51] Try something new in your fitness routine to keep things exciting
[47:57] The Lightning Round! - Rock-ing the fanny pack jokes, down under
[55:19] Jazzy WOULD do Fit2Fat2Fit on purpose
[58:14] Contact information for Jasmine
Mentions:
Jazzy Things
@jazzythings
@itsjazzythings
Quest Nutrition
Dollar Workout Club
@Fit2Fat2Fit
@2Fitathome

Nov 3, 2015 • 51min
EP010: Knowing Your Why Behind Your Fitness Goals with Bruce Pitcher of Extreme Weight Loss
What a burst of energy this guy is. Bruce Pitcher and Drew met on Season 3 of Extreme Weight Loss (EWL). Bruce’s story is so touching, so potent and so raw it impacts everyone who hears it. After years of hiding a secret about his father, Bruce gradually gained weight until he reached 410 lbs. Becoming a participant on EWL changed Bruce’s life forever. He found unbridled support from the fitness coaches which helped him to turn his health around. He now works on fitness boot camps, speaks motivationally and encourages people with his voracious energy to take continue on their journey to better health.
Key Takeaways:
[4:15] Bruce and Drew met on a mind-blowing episode of Extreme Weight Loss
[6:08] Bruce’s memories of his father’s arrest and his suicide attempt
[13:03] Weight started piling on quickly and I weighed as much as 410 pounds
[14:47] Feeling the love from people on the show gave me the confidence to confront my dad
[17:57] Chris made me realize I didn’t keep the promises I made to myself
[20:28] Tommy is a Crossfit freak and everybody should be lifting weights
[26:25] Knowing your “why” behind your fitness goals
[31:34] Bruce’s energy is contagious
[32:43] The naked squat in front of the mirror and 3 random positive comments before 10 am
[33:58] Meal prep is a daily habit which can push you in the right directions
[36:51] What supplements does Bruce take
[39:24] Bruce’s goal for next year
[40:10] Lynn doesn’t enjoy Crossfit, just keep your Crossfit talk to yourself
[42:54] The Lightning Round
[44:34] Chris & Heidi Powell impressions
[46:47] Some random fitness talk which includes frams
[48:34] Contact info for Bruce
Mentions:
Quest Nutrition
Dollar Workout Club
Destination Boot Camp
Bodpod
@brucepitcher
Bruce Pitcher on FB
Fit2Fat2Fit
2Fitathome
@2fitathome
@fit2fat2fit

Oct 27, 2015 • 48min
EP009: The Power of Food with the Green Smoothie Girl, Robyn Openshaw
Little changes can make all the difference in your family's health. Our bodies need the nutrients fresh food contains. Processed foods may seem easier at the time but the toll it takes on our bodies is enormous. If you want to feel better, lose weight and increase your energy levels try a green smoothie. It’s as simple as dumping vegetables and fruits in a blender. It’s nature’s pharmacy in a glass.
Key Takeaways:
[4:18] So are you Robyn or Green Smoothie Girl
[5:15] Robyn’s very real journey of health problems
[9::25] And one day she unintentionally made her first green smoothie
[10:32] Little changes made her kids healthier
[15:34] Tips for kids - Get sugar out of your house!
[16:11] We stopped getting sick when we stopped eating the processed food
[16:22] Wife Swap started a rush of hits on Greensmoothiegirl.com
[17:47] She pays her son to make the smoothies and to do the dishes
[18:25] What exactly is Robyn’s green smoothie
[20:30] The difference between juicing and whole food blending
[27:31] Robyn’s everyday exercise routine
[31:00] A cheat food is chai tea, iced coffee, wine and chocolate
[34:41] We are what we eat
[37:28] Balance is overrated just do the best you can
[40:12] The Lightning Round
[43:13] Compassion for people who are overweight
[44:35] Be the Change Tour is coming up
GreenSmoothieGirl's PINK Breakfast Smoothie!
1 1/2 cups coconut juice
1/4 cup raw cashews
2-4 large dates, pitted
1 large chunk of a raw beet, peeled
1 large carrot, in chunks
12 large frozen strawberries (or a 10 oz. bag)
Blend all but strawberries in a turbo blender until smooth. Add strawberries and blend 90 seconds until smooth. Enjoy immediately!
Note: I like to ferment my coconut juice using water kefir grains, for probiotics for gut health! I keep it on my counter every day, to drain off into my blender, and "start" some new "coconut juice kefir."
Mentions:
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Be the Change Tour
@gsglife
@greensmoothiegirl
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Fit2Fat2Fit

Oct 20, 2015 • 55min
EP008: The Whole30 - Resetting Your Emotional Relationship with Food with Melissa Hartwig
Wait, what? It’s true, Melissa is a New York Times bestselling co-author, a mother, she’s super smart and has great hair. You may be thinking it isn’t fair, but Melissa pushed reset on her old eating habits and makes deliberate decisions about what she puts in her body. Her Whole30 program, which she designed with her husband Dallas, provides tools and resources which put people on the path of better health and overall wellness. She explains why it’s not the best idea to integrate a vegan diet or intermittent fasting into the program and how the program will change your life in just 30 days.
Key Takeaways:
[:52] Quest Nutrition
[1:31] Dollar Workout Club is an amazing program
[4:48] The whole30 is a program which pushes the reset button
[6:29] Focus on the positives of the 30-day program
[9:56] Drew’s experience with the Whole30
[13:05] The absence of trigger foods is a compromise at 30 days
[14:30] : (
[14:52] It’s about changing habits, chewing gum is a stress response
[16:44] The Whole30 & intermittent fasting don’t combine well
[20:44] Vegans can implement pieces of the program
[23:54] Feeding your child for better health
[29:23] Articles on how to get your family on board with the program
[31:00] This is designed to be a short-term dietary reset
[34:08] I’ve learned to make conscious, deliberate decisions about what I eat
[36:23] Leak alert - Happy, healthy pregnancies project
[39:27] Setting expectations with family, friends and colleagues
[44:47] The Lightning Round
[45:25] Paleo in the media
[51:23] Emotional relationship with food
Mentions:
@melissa_hartwig
The Whole9
The Whole30
It Starts with Food
Fit2Fat2Fit - @fit2fat2fit
2Fitathome - @2fitathome
Quest Nutrition
Dollar Workout Club

Oct 13, 2015 • 57min
EP007: Discussing Fitness Goals with your Spouse when They are not On Board with Natalie Hodson
Getting your fitness groove on is difficult at first. Fear of being judged at the gym can cause you to skip your workout. But what do you do when you really want to lose the baby weight, tone your muscles and make yourself healthier and happier? Try focusing on only the things you are able to change and make small, attainable goals for yourself. Lynn’s soul sister and stunt double, Natalie, shares with us how her honesty led her to a new career, a healthier life and gained her millions of followers. Plus, 3 grocery store hacks you can use to buy nutritious, tasty food for less money.
Key Takeaways:
[:59] Pumpkin Pie Quest Bar - Yes please and follow it up with a Dollar Workout Club Video
[3:28] Natalie never thought she would be in the health and fitness industry
[5:01] Without 12-week trainer my fitness journey may not have happened
[6:10] Finding ways to make eating healthy taste good
[8:30] We were swimming in student loan debt, so I needed to work
[14:32] I used exercise as self-care when I reached mommy burnout
[17:35] Getting women on the same page
[19:30] Frustration about my body changes and no one talked about it
[21:20] Natalie’s #ownit campaign - Focus on things you can change
[27:00] Helping with the Perfectly Imperfect campaign
[28:47] There have been mean comments
[29:36] Men have insecurities and inadequacies too
[31:47] Dave Ramsey Podcast
[33:05] Natalie’s grocery store hacks
[39:10] Dealing with a spouse who is not on board
[43:07] Lynn survives being thrown under the bus by Drew, again
[44:10] It’s a difficult situation discussing your fitness goals with your spouse
[47:30] A 3rd child?
[48:20] Natalie would do a fit2fat2fit journey
[50:30] The Lightning Round - Accidents happen
Mentions:
Quest Nutrition
Natalie Hodson
@nataliehodson1
Dollar Workout Club
LiveFit Trainer
Bodybuilding.com
Scentsy
#ownit
Smart Money, Smart Kids
Fit2Fat2Fit
2FitatHome

Oct 6, 2015 • 54min
EP006: Extreme Weight Loss - Creating the Show with Executive Producer Matt Assmus
Matt shares with us the responsibilities of an executive producer for a weight loss, reality show. Extreme Weight Loss works with clients, who have over 200 pounds to shed, for over a year. It starts with setting proper expectations and creating weight loss goals for each individual and ends with skin reduction surgery for the clients who meet their goals. The shows’ producers and hosts become friends, confidants and cheerleaders with the clients as they feel the pressure to succeed. And, when the show is finished filming you move on to next season’s clients.
Key Takeaways:
[:39] Quest nutrition uses high-quality ingredients
[2:44] Who is Matt Assmus and what does he do
[7:55] Extreme Weight Loss, creating the show
[11:17] Setting proper expectations for weight loss
[12:46] Skin surgery after losing 50% body weight
[14:38] Chris & Heidi develop individualized plans for each person
[15:57] Casting looks for people who are at their last resort
[19:10] We naturally brought in Heidi
[21:44] Chris believes everybody’s story
[23:44] Putting pressure on the clients to reach their goals
[27:21] Clients support each other and are given local trainers
[30:11] How many people gain the weight back after the show
[31:19] Staying in the public eye helps people keep the weight off
[33:57] It’s hard for clients to be invisible after being on the show
[34:50] There is no transition program after the show
[36:21] If you’ve lost 200 lbs. you are an inspiration to many
[37:51] A viewing party let me see the effects our show is having
[42:00] Weight loss shows bring obesity to the forefront
[46:22] We wanted to show the effects of the weight loss other than the weight loss
[47:32] The Lightning Round
Mentions:
Quest Nutrition
Extreme Weight Loss
3 Ball Productions
Extreme Weight Loss FB page