
Pioneers of AI
Pioneers of AI is your guide to the latest technological frontier. Each week, host Rana el Kaliouby (AI scientist, investor, author, co-founder of Affectiva) is joined by the leading creators, critics, and thinkers behind mind-blowing technology and asks the important questions about how artificial intelligence is changing the way we live. As we venture together into the unknown, Pioneers is your tool to understanding and anticipating what comes next.
Latest episodes

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Jul 2, 2025 • 37min
What humans get (and don’t get) from AI, with MIT’s Pattie Maes
Pattie Maes, a leading MIT Media Lab professor, focuses on how AI can enhance human well-being. She discusses the potential of Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) and advocates for an inclusive approach to AI development. Key topics include the ethical implications of recommendation algorithms, the importance of personal connections while using AI, and future advancements in context-aware technologies. Maes shares insights on how AI can foster personal growth and improve human interactions, emphasizing that technology should support, not replace, our relationships.

Jun 28, 2025 • 55min
Possible: Latanya Sweeney on AI, trust, and privacy
In this engaging discussion, Latanya Sweeney, a data privacy pioneer and Harvard professor, shares insights on the intricate balance between AI and individual privacy. She explores the ethical challenges posed by technology, emphasizing the need for frameworks that safeguard public trust. Sweeney also delves into the historical evolution of data, the implications of AI on social issues, and the importance of governance in navigating these changes. With a blend of optimism and caution, she encourages proactive engagement from the younger generation in shaping technology's future.

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Jun 25, 2025 • 30min
Elias Torres wants to reach unicorn status with just 100 employees
Elias Torres, Founder and CEO of Agency AI, discusses his vision of reaching unicorn status with just 100 employees. He reflects on the American Dream and how his immigrant background fuels his entrepreneurial spirit. Torres delves into the evolution of AI technologies and the challenges of enhancing customer experiences in a competitive market. He emphasizes the importance of emotional intelligence in AI, and advocates for adaptable problem-solving skills in the changing job landscape. His insights about innovation and personalized service are both inspiring and thought-provoking.

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Jun 21, 2025 • 59min
Possible: Jane Goodall on hope, AI, and the natural world
Jane Goodall, a legendary ethologist and conservationist, shares her insights on hope, technology, and conservation. She discusses how AI can aid in preserving nature and introduces her global youth program, Roots & Shoots, which empowers young people to take action. Goodall also reflects on her groundbreaking work with chimpanzees, emphasizing their intelligence and emotional depth. Additionally, she highlights the importance of community involvement and the potential of technology to enhance understanding and protect biodiversity.

Jun 18, 2025 • 36min
How to use AI to fight online image abuse, with Breeze Liu
Breeze Liu, Founder and CEO of Alecto AI, shares her powerful journey from survivor of online image abuse to advocate. She discusses the alarming rise of deepfakes and their impact on victims, emphasizing the crucial role of legislation like the Take It Down Act in protecting individuals. Breeze highlights Alecto AI’s innovative solutions for combating image misuse and the emotional toll this type of abuse takes on victims, while advocating for a more accountable tech landscape.

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Jun 14, 2025 • 57min
Possible: Artful Intelligence, part 3, featuring Paul Trillo
Join filmmaker Paul Trillo, known for directing the first fully AI-generated music video, as he dives into the creative challenges of using AI technology like OpenAI's Sora. Trillo explains how he turned AI's surreal quirks into emotionally resonant storytelling. Alongside entrepreneur Reid Hoffman, they discuss the transformative potential of AI in art, the balance between traditional creativity and innovative tools, and how creators can redefine artistic boundaries. Discover the exciting future of filmmaking and narrative creation!

Jun 11, 2025 • 37min
How to build robots that can live alongside us, with Cynthia Breazeal
Cynthia Breazeal, a social robotics pioneer and MIT professor, delves into the evolution of robots as companions in our daily lives. She discusses the importance of emotional intelligence in these machines, highlighting their applications in education and mental health. Breazeal shares insights on how robots like Tega and Jibo enhance learning engagement and emotional well-being. She also emphasizes the critical need for AI literacy in schools to prepare future generations for a tech-driven world.

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Jun 7, 2025 • 49min
Possible: Artful Intelligence, part 2, featuring Elise Swopes
Elise Swopes, a trailblazing visual artist and educator known for merging AI with photography, shares her journey of creativity and resilience. She discusses the empowerment of marginalized voices in the NFT space and the community's role in shaping the future of art. Reid Hoffman reflects on AI's potential to enhance human expression and creativity, questioning whether it can ever truly replicate the human touch in artistry. Together, they explore the transformative effects of AI on personal and professional creativity.

Jun 4, 2025 • 35min
The hidden environmental costs of a single AI prompt, with Dr. Sasha Luccioni
Dr. Sasha Luccioni, Climate Lead at Hugging Face, delves into the often-overlooked environmental costs of AI. She reveals how powering AI models can significantly impact emissions and energy consumption, with surprising figures on the carbon footprint tied to a simple prompt. The conversation explores trade-offs between AI accessibility and energy demands, and highlights the hidden ecological impacts of semiconductor manufacturing. Listeners are encouraged to adopt sustainable practices and be mindful of when to use AI versus traditional methods.

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May 31, 2025 • 33min
Remarkable People: Deepak Chopra on becoming your own guru in the digital age
In a captivating discussion, Deepak Chopra, a pioneer in integrative medicine and the founder of the Chopra Foundation, explores the coexistence of AI and spirituality. He introduces his creation, Deepak Chopra.ai, as a digital guide for self-discovery. Chopra emphasizes AI's potential to answer life's fundamental questions about purpose and identity. He challenges the traditional role of spiritual teachers and advocates for embracing uncertainty as a path to creativity. Don't miss his insights on the evolving nature of enlightenment in the digital era!