
Pioneers of AI
Pioneers of AI is your guide to the latest technological frontier. Each week, host Rana el Kaliouby (AI scientist, investor, author, co-founder of Affectiva) is joined by the leading creators, critics, and thinkers behind mind-blowing technology and asks the important questions about how artificial intelligence is changing the way we live. As we venture together into the unknown, Pioneers is your tool to understanding and anticipating what comes next.
Latest episodes

Jun 11, 2025 • 37min
How to build robots that can live alongside us, with Cynthia Breazeal
Cynthia Breazeal, a social robotics pioneer and MIT professor, delves into the evolution of robots as companions in our daily lives. She discusses the importance of emotional intelligence in these machines, highlighting their applications in education and mental health. Breazeal shares insights on how robots like Tega and Jibo enhance learning engagement and emotional well-being. She also emphasizes the critical need for AI literacy in schools to prepare future generations for a tech-driven world.

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Jun 7, 2025 • 49min
Possible: Artful Intelligence, part 2, featuring Elise Swopes
Elise Swopes, a trailblazing visual artist and educator known for merging AI with photography, shares her journey of creativity and resilience. She discusses the empowerment of marginalized voices in the NFT space and the community's role in shaping the future of art. Reid Hoffman reflects on AI's potential to enhance human expression and creativity, questioning whether it can ever truly replicate the human touch in artistry. Together, they explore the transformative effects of AI on personal and professional creativity.

Jun 4, 2025 • 35min
The hidden environmental costs of a single AI prompt, with Dr. Sasha Luccioni
Dr. Sasha Luccioni, Climate Lead at Hugging Face, delves into the often-overlooked environmental costs of AI. She reveals how powering AI models can significantly impact emissions and energy consumption, with surprising figures on the carbon footprint tied to a simple prompt. The conversation explores trade-offs between AI accessibility and energy demands, and highlights the hidden ecological impacts of semiconductor manufacturing. Listeners are encouraged to adopt sustainable practices and be mindful of when to use AI versus traditional methods.

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May 31, 2025 • 33min
Remarkable People: Deepak Chopra on becoming your own guru in the digital age
In a captivating discussion, Deepak Chopra, a pioneer in integrative medicine and the founder of the Chopra Foundation, explores the coexistence of AI and spirituality. He introduces his creation, Deepak Chopra.ai, as a digital guide for self-discovery. Chopra emphasizes AI's potential to answer life's fundamental questions about purpose and identity. He challenges the traditional role of spiritual teachers and advocates for embracing uncertainty as a path to creativity. Don't miss his insights on the evolving nature of enlightenment in the digital era!

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May 28, 2025 • 31min
How AI helps women track hormonal health, with Marina Pavlovic Rivas
Marina Pavlovic Rivas, founder of Eli Health, is revolutionizing women's hormonal health with AI-driven at-home monitoring tools. In this discussion, she uncovers the historical neglect in women’s health research and the urgent need for female-driven initiatives. Marina explains how continuous hormonal monitoring and innovative saliva testing can empower women. The potential of computer vision in personalized medicine is also explored, setting the stage for a future where data privacy and health tracking go hand in hand.

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May 24, 2025 • 34min
Rapid Response: The enterprise AI revolution is underway, with Box’s Aaron Levie
Aaron Levie, Co-founder and CEO of Box, shares insights on the rapidly evolving world of AI in the workplace. He breaks down the real applications of AI and how organizations can successfully transition to an AI-first model. Levie discusses the importance of viewing AI as a productivity tool rather than a replacement for jobs. He also addresses the misconceptions politicians have about fostering a conducive environment for technological advancement and emphasizes the need for a skilled workforce to drive innovation in the enterprise sector.

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May 21, 2025 • 42min
Investing in the age of AI, part 2: Jeff Bussgang
In this discussion, Jeff Bussgang, a general partner at Flybridge Capital Partners and entrepreneurship professor at Harvard, shares insights from his book, The Experimentation Machine, targeting startups aiming to leverage AI. He discusses practical strategies for building AI-native companies and the critical role of empathy in entrepreneurship. Jeremy Kahn, Fortune's AI editor, highlights geopolitical implications of U.S. investments in AI, particularly in the Gulf region, emphasizing recent deals and their impact on the global AI race.

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May 14, 2025 • 43min
Investing in the age of AI, part 1: Vinod Khosla
Vinod Khosla, the head of Khosla Ventures and a tech pioneer, discusses his visionary investment philosophy and insights on the AI landscape. He shares lessons from his startup experiences, emphasizing the importance of data-driven decision-making. Jeremy Kahn, AI editor at Fortune, joins to unpack OpenAI's restructuring and its implications for the industry. They explore the competitive dynamics among AI players and the potential for AI to transform the workforce, raising questions about job displacement and societal impacts.

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May 7, 2025 • 31min
The start-up fixing AI's errors, with Invisible Technologies' Francis Pedraza
Francis Pedraza, Founder of Invisible Technologies, discusses his vision of merging humans and AI in digital assembly lines, enhancing productivity. He shares insights on the vital role of human involvement in AI training and quality assurance. Pedraza underscores the importance of outsourcing non-core tasks for companies like DoorDash and covers the evolving landscape of AI job skills. Additionally, he introduces his innovative funding strategy that prioritizes long-term value and creativity, revealing how AI could transform entrepreneurial opportunities for individuals.

Apr 30, 2025 • 38min
Revisited: Dr. Joy Buolamwini wants AI to see everyone
In this engaging conversation, Dr. Joy Buolamwini, the mind behind the Algorithmic Justice League and a computer scientist and poet of code, dives into the pressing issue of bias in AI. She reveals how flawed facial recognition tech has led to wrongful arrests, particularly affecting marginalized communities. Joy shares her formative experiences that shaped her mission for equitable AI, emphasizing the crucial need for diverse data sets. She advocates for human-centric innovation, urging the tech industry to prioritize representation and justice in artificial intelligence.