
Student Of The Game Fire Podcast
Showcasing fellow men and women within the fire service that you might not know about. Individuals who have a strong passion for the craft, that remain humble and tackle each day with focus, never making excuses for why you can't get things done while always remaining a student of the game.
Latest episodes

May 1, 2025 • 1h 43min
Mark Misek
26 years of combination experience. A Captain On Truck 2 with Wichita Fire Department. Mark was a mechanic in the automotive industry and told himself he just doesn’t see his future in this field. He had a friend tell him about a volunteer opportunity in the fire service within the county he lived. Once Mark joined he formed relationships and friendships with individuals within the fire service who were truly into being the best version of themselves. When Mark decided to go full-time career mode Wichita gave him his chance and once he got on his career speaks for itself. I truly hope the listeners tune and hone in on the truth Mark speaks. One of my favorite quote from Mark is “ If you’re not going to be the guy to pull back the reigns don’t be in LEADERSHIP.”

Apr 28, 2025 • 1h 12min
Kamal Phillips
17 years of career experience 2nd generation Firefighter. A Captain on Engine 4 with Norfolk Fire/Rescue. Kamal had zero intentions of becoming a Firefighter. During his junior year in college things weren’t working out. His father told him if his plans didn’t make he was going to become a Firefighter. His first day in recruit school on a lunch break Kamal was not feeling the journey he was in. But his mother told him do it for at least one week then they can both evaluate it. Fast forward to today and obviously things worked out for Kamal. One of the main gems that stood out in this interview was the fact that all Kamal needed was for someone to believe and show him the route he needed to go which laid down the ground work to where is now. My favorite quote from Kamal is “No matter where you grew up or what you look like, If you want to do it there are avenues to do it.”IG: rock_and_kim_son

Apr 24, 2025 • 1h 24min
Garrett Rice
25 years of career experience. Division Chief of Training with The Colony Fire Department in Texas. Firefighting wasn’t in the Garrett scope of practice but he had a friend invite him to come by the station and as many other guests I’ve had on once he entered in the halls of the fire house that’s all he needed. The mindset Garrett has is a testament to who you’re around. If you are aspiring to be an Officer or current one regardless if it’s Company or Chief this is a MUST listen to if you want to grow as a better person whether it be father, mother, significant other or Firefighter. If you’re into the job after listening to this episode it will make you want to run through a wall due to how truthful Garrett speaks when it comes to how an organization should operate. One of my favorite quotes from Garrett is “If you want a longer leash….TRAIN.”

Apr 21, 2025 • 1h 46min
Jeff Cool
2nd generation Firefighter with 14 1/2 years of service with the FDNY who retired out of Rescue 3 and life member with Haverstraw Volunteer Fire Department in Rockland County NY. Jeff was one of 6 members that were forced to make a difficult decision on January 23, 2005 on what is known as the Black Sunday Fire. 2 of those members were killed instantly one passed away 6 years later and the 3 who survived would forever have their lives changed. Later on that day another Firefighter Richard Sclafani was also killed at a separate dwelling fire. The thing about surviving tragedy while a traumatic event can significantly impact a person, it doesn't fully encompass their identity or future potential. Acknowledging the impact of a tragedy is important, but it's also crucial to focus on the present and future, and to not let the past define the person's identity. Reaching out to trusted friends, family members, or professional help can be very beneficial during and after a tragedy. I would like for the listeners to hear Jeff’s story and the strong message he has behind it. In this profession don’t ever think “It can’t happen here.”

Apr 17, 2025 • 1h 40min
Ryan Gates
20 years of career experience, 2nd generation Firefighter. Assistant Chief with Cayce Fire Department in South Carolina and co-owner of Soda City Training. My conversation with Ryan was fantastic. Upon entering into the fire service he had individuals who were helping and guiding him in a way that he might not have caught onto just yet. When you’re young and in the fire service after a few years some begin to think they know it all when the individual hasn’t even scratched the surface. Sometimes all it takes is one person to pull you aside and let you know you’re messing up to hopefully make you realize you need to change for the better. Ryan had one of those experiences that forever changed his outlook and continues to do so even today. I truly hope the listeners can take in and absorb some of the gems and nuggets Ryan’s dropping . One of my favorite quotes from Ryan is “ You are what you check.”

Apr 14, 2025 • 1h 16min
Nick Shepard
15 years of combination experience. Unknown to him until later 2nd generation Firefighter. At the age of 10 a grass fire accidentally started in front of his home. While his mother called 911 Nick filled up a bucket with water and extinguished the fire prior to the Fire Department’s arrival. He took a picture afterwards with one of the Firefighters who later on in life became the Chief of the volunteer organization he joined. That same Chief saw the potential in Nick and one day laid down an application for Wilmington Fire and told him there’s opportunity for growth and pushed him to apply. After getting on Nick’s mindset never changed. Every time your on shift is a day to learn and experience something new. How Nick view’s the fire service is how all should strive to achieve. IG: shep8822 & pfhc25

Apr 10, 2025 • 1h 34min
Franco Martinez
Franco Martinez- 31 years of combination experience. A Captain for Company 2 Tacoma Park with Montgomery County Fire/Rescue in Maryland. Franco wasn’t seeking the fire service at first. It was a friend who essentially put him on and asked to come by and see what it was about. Once he did the smell of the bay and gear had Franco hooked and that’s all he needed. While enlisted in the military, the road of law enforcement was presented but Franco knew the fire service was calling him. One of the quotes Franco dropped during his interview that definitely resounded with me was “When was the last time you practiced that skill?”IG: franco26_99

Apr 7, 2025 • 1h 36min
Dave Nowacki
Dave Nowacki- 21 years of career experience. A Sergeant on Engine 50 with Detroit Fire Department, creator of 4th Man Fire. Dave isn’t a legacy Firefighter. He never dreamed at a young age of joining the fire service. What got Dave into the profession was a friend who told him all the things he gets to do while on the job and he gets to do it all while working only 9 days a month. Yep he admits that 100%. But once he got in he was all in making sure he continues to be the best version of himself. Dave is very tradition and history based when it comes to the job. After hearing his experience and viewpoints you’ll understand why. IG: 4thmanfire

Apr 3, 2025 • 1h 32min
Chris Sleigher
26 years of career experience. Battalion Chief for City Of Mesa Fire & Medical Department. Chris actually wanted to be a police officer. While volunteering for a local sheriffs department he was able to meet Firefighters who explained to Chris the skills he had in mountain rescue most definitely translates to Fire Departments. With the being said the wheels started spinning for Chris and he applied to Phoenix & Mesa. Mesa was faster out the gate and Chris never looked back. I want the listeners to hear Chris’s experience regarding the passion he has now didn’t develop until later on his career and most importantly how the delivery you choose when exposed to new ideas you want to bring back to your own organization can have a negative effect if not done properly. Two quotes stuck out for me in our conversation. The first is “ Risk is managed by competence.” & the second “Values dictate culture.”IG: ffcrsleigher

Mar 31, 2025 • 1h 23min
Bo Vest
2nd generation Firefighter with 27 years of combination experience. Captain with The Training Division for Little Rock Fire in Arkansas. From an early age Bo watched his Grandfather operate as a volunteer. There were times when they were completing a task and a call comes in and his Grandfather would stop what he was doing to run the call and from there Bo knew he wanted to do just that. Bo applied everywhere he could around him until Little Rock called and gave him what he always dreamed of. From there he was surrounded with individuals he wanted to emulate but also learned from those that weren’t into it as we would like. Climbing through the ranks an opportunity presented itself within the training division and Bo took it. Bo believes in accountability, standards, sweat and suffering. One of my favorite quotes from Bo is “I’ve never regretted a workout.” IG: engine.actual