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Edufuturists
We are led to believe that the education system will continually evolve to meet the needs of learners and society. This has not happened. We need a revolution!
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Aug 12, 2024 • 1h 1min
Episode #254 A Conspiracy Against Thinking with David Cameron
In this episode, Ben and Steve are joined by special guest David Cameron, who has a background in education and children's services. They discuss the importance of creating a better future for young people and the need to move away from an education system focused solely on attainment and exams. They also touch on the challenges of delivering education in rural areas and the importance of collaboration and joint working between schools and other agencies.
The conversation highlights the need for a shift in mindset and a focus on curiosity, ideas, and lifelong learning. The conversation explores the need for change in the education system and the challenges it faces. One key theme is the lack of teachers and the historical approach of maximising numbers rather than focusing on individualised learning. The blame culture and obsession with risk are also discussed, with a call for a shift towards trust and flexibility. The importance of creating positive experiences and dispositions for students is highlighted, as well as the need to move away from a purely outcome-focused approach. The conversation ends with a discussion on the influence of funding and the role of accountability in education.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Welcoming the Guest
02:19 David Cameron's Background in Education
06:40 Online Learning and Education in Scotland
09:04 Building on Best Practices in Education
10:46 The Purpose of Education and the Importance of Curiosity
16:15 The Role of Schools in Social Care and Safeguarding
19:02 The Need for Genuine Joint Working in Education
20:26 The Language and Culture of Education
24:43 Shaping a Better Future for Young People
28:18 Meeting Young People Where They Are
29:46 Conclusion and More Than Results
29:47 Rethinking the Education System
31:40 The Teacher Shortage and Maximising Numbers in Classrooms
40:15 Breaking Free from the Blame Culture
45:39 Creating Positive Experiences and Dispositions
53:58 The Pitfalls of an Exam-Focused System
58:48 Reevaluating Funding and Accountability
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Aug 4, 2024 • 58min
Edufuturists #253 Bring the Students With You with Kern Kelley
In this episode, Ben & Steve are joined by Kern Kelley, a Technology Integrator in central Maine, USA at R.S.U. #19. Kern started as a fifth-grade teacher and loved the ability to integrate different subjects and build a community in the classroom. He started involving students in tech support, which led to the creation of a tech help show and workshops. Kern became a technology integrator for the district, where he had the freedom to use his time and energy as he saw fit. He focused on building students' trust and giving them opportunities to present and travel.
Kern believes in the importance of inspiring students and creating immersive experiences through augmented reality (AR) and AI, while still valuing the role of teachers in curating and facilitating learning. He discusses his experience as a technology integrator and the evolution of technology integration over the past 20 years. He shares how he started by introducing technology to classrooms and gradually developed a comprehensive system of technology integration from K-12. Kern also talks about the STEM to Strings programme, where students learn about science, technology, engineering, and math through the process of building their own electric guitars. He emphasises the importance of project-based learning, student leadership, and creating a culture of empathy in education.
Chapters
00:00 Integrating Subjects and Building Community
01:36 Empowering Students through Tech Support and Leadership
03:28 The Importance of Trust in Student Leadership
13:08 Enhancing Learning with Augmented Reality and AI
27:00 The Evolution of Technology Integration
29:26 Project-Based Learning and Technology Integration
32:10 STEM to Strings: From Nature to End Product
33:33 Fostering Empathy and Student Leadership
Kern discusses 3 projects which you can check out below:
Creating an Augmented Reality Layer over the school with Photogrammetry
STEM to Strings
Student Leadership Ambassadors of Maine
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Jul 29, 2024 • 59min
Episode #252 Creative Direction: AI or Not to AI with Penny Lee Taylor-Brown (The Gary Barlow One)
In this conversation, Steven and Ben are joined by Global's Penny Lee Taylor-Brown to discuss the role of AI in education and the importance of human intelligence. They explore the need for skills such as critical analysis, communication, empathy, and storytelling in the workplace. Penny Lee shares her experience as a creative director in the media industry and how AI can be used to analyse documents and save time.
They also discuss the potential of AI in personalising education and adapting teaching methods to individual students. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the history of AI and its potential impact on education. In this conversation, Penny Lee discusses the integration of AI in the creative industry and the future of education. She emphasises the importance of human skills such as storytelling, pitching, and confidence, which cannot be replaced by AI. Penny Lee also suggests that the education system should adapt to the changing needs and interests of students, allowing for more personalised learning experiences. The challenges in education include the need to prepare students for a rapidly changing workforce and the increasing desire for alternative paths to success, such as apprenticeships.
Overall, the conversation highlights the potential of AI to enhance productivity and efficiency while recognising the irreplaceable value of human creativity and connection.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Setting the Tone
10:11 The Importance of Human Intelligence in the Workplace
18:49 Using AI to Save Time and Analyse Documents
25:20 Personalising Education with AI
32:05 Rethinking Traditional Testing in Education
41:03 Challenges in Education and the Changing Workforce
52:32 The Role of AI in Enhancing Human Skills
57:34 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Check out Penny Lee's LinkedIn profile
PS Scroll to 31:12 to hear Steve calling himself Gary Barlow. Podcast gold.
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Jul 22, 2024 • 47min
Edufuturists #251 Transform Culture & Strategy with Jonny Wathen
In this episode of the Edufuturists podcast, Ben and Steve interview Johnny Wathen from TransforMATive about digital transformation in the education sector. We discuss the meaning of digital transformation and its importance in creating value for individuals and organisations. We also explore the current state of digital transformation in the education sector, with some organisations still in the early stages of digitisation while others are embracing digital leadership and maturity.
The conversation touches on the need for collaboration and sharing of ideas in the sector, as well as the role of visionary leaders in driving digital transformation. The importance of clarity, vision, accountability, and autonomy in navigating preferences and opinions in organisations is also highlighted.
The conversation explores the need for digital leadership in the education sector and the challenges of implementing digital transformation. It emphasises the importance of collaboration, agility, and adaptability in the face of rapid technological advancements.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
05:09 Understanding Digital Transformation in the Education Sector
06:58 The Current State of Digital Transformation in Education
09:46 The Importance of Collaboration and Sharing in Education
13:22 The Role of Visionary Leaders in Driving Digital Transformation
16:28 Navigating Preferences and Opinions in Organisations
24:29 The Importance of Digital Leadership in Education
28:14 Collaboration, Agility, and Adaptability in the Digital Age
35:10 Inspiring and Developing Leaders through the TransforMATive Leadership Programme
39:21 Technology Augmentation and the Culture of Innovation
41:51 Skills for the Future Workforce
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Jul 15, 2024 • 1h 3min
Episode #250 Our 2023-2024 Trends Discussion
In this episode, Ben and Steve celebrate the 250th episode of the podcast and discuss their recent activities, including speaking engagements and workshops. They express gratitude to their partners, judges, and the community for their support. They also announce the renaming of the Outstanding Achievement Award in honour of David Price.
The main themes discussed in the Trends booklet are holistic education, culture and strategy, lifelong learning, and enabling technology. The conversation covers the importance of holistic education, the need for critical thinking skills, the role of culture and strategy in education, the value of lifelong learning, and the impact of enabling technology.
We emphasise the need to move away from a focus on knowledge and exams and instead prioritise skills development and curiosity. We discuss the importance of creating a culture of innovation and inclusivity, and highlight the role of technology in enhancing education. The conversation concludes with a reflection on the future of the podcast and the plans for upcoming events.
Chapters
00:00 Celebrating 250 Episodes
09:14 Renaming the Outstanding Achievement Award
23:54 Holistic Education: Supercharging the Full Human Skill Set
27:13 Culture and Strategy in That Order: Building Strong Organisational Culture
27:52 Lifelong Learning: Continuous Learning and Leveling Up
28:19 Enabling Technology: Aligning Pedagogical Beliefs with Technology
28:52 Shifting the Focus: From Knowledge to Skills
34:40 Building a Culture of Innovation and Inclusivity
43:14 Embracing Lifelong Learning
50:28 The Power of Enabling Technology
01:00:23 The Future of the Podcast and Events
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Jul 8, 2024 • 58min
Edufuturists #249 Mindful Movement with Claire Tamplin
In this episode, Ben and Steve are joined by Claire Tamplin, The Mindful Movement Coach. Claire shares her journey from being an English teacher to becoming an innovator in holistic education. She talks about the importance of emotional health and fitness in schools and the need to move beyond a narrow focus on academic subjects.
Claire introduces the concept of mindful movement, which is about getting out of your head and into your body, and explains how it can help manage stress and improve emotional well-being.
She emphasises the importance of authenticity, imperfection, and celebrating successes. The conversation explores the concept of being a changemaker and the importance of using one's voice to create positive change. It emphasises the need for creativity, connectivity, courage, community, and clarity as essential skills for students to thrive in the future workforce. The surprising element in a transformed education system would be starting each school day with gratitude, fostering a positive and present mindset for learning. The biggest challenges in achieving the future of education include the uncertainty of the future workforce and the lack of time given to young people to fail and learn from their mistakes.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background of Claire Tamplin
02:14 Transition from Teacher to Innovator in Holistic Education
06:35 Stepping into Power and Creating Change
08:28 Championing Authenticity and Imperfection in Education
11:30 Supporting Teachers to Thrive in the Education System
16:02 The Power of Mindful Movement in Managing Stress and Improving Well-being
32:16 Becoming a Changemaker
56:04 Essential Skills for the Future Workforce
57:32 Starting the School Day with Gratitude
58:34 Challenges in Achieving the Future of Education
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Jul 1, 2024 • 1h 14min
Edufuturists #248 Will Teachers Become Obsolete? with Donald Clark
In this episode, Ben and Steve discuss the impact of AI on education with guest Donald Clark. They explore the rapid progress of AI in education, the shift from text-based learning to multimodal learning, and the potential for AI to revolutionise assessment.
They also discuss the role of teachers in the age of AI and the need for a shift in teaching methods. The conversation highlights the growing importance of AI in education and its potential to enhance learning experiences. AI in education has the potential to address accessibility issues and personalise learning for individuals with disabilities. It can automate tasks like marking, reducing teacher workload. AI can also support learners in the workplace by understanding context and providing performance support.
However, there are concerns about the impact of AI on teacher jobs and the need for teachers to adapt to new technologies. The transformation of education will require a shift in agency towards learners and a reevaluation of the skills and knowledge that are prioritised. The biggest challenge for education in the next 10 to 20 years is the political and social ramifications of an education system that produces a graduate class that looks down on the rest. It is important to ensure that AI in education benefits all learners and addresses inequality.
Keywords
#AI #education #progress #multimodal #learning #assessment #teachers #learningexperiences #AIineducation #accessibility #personalisedlearning #teacherworkload #workplacelearning #automation #teacherjobs #learneragency #skills #knowledge #educationtransformation #inequality
Sound Bites
"AI in education is unlike most technologies in the past, as it has steadily progressed and continues to accelerate."
"Education has been drowning in a sea of text, and AI is shifting towards multimodality, including audio and real-time dialogue."
"AI is pushing for a change in assessment methods, moving away from handwritten exams and essays."
"AI can speak dozens of languages and be sensitive to accessibility issues."
"Who wouldn't want to automate marking?"
"AI can understand the context of learners in the workplace and provide performance support."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Uprising 2024 Announcement
02:26 Previous Discussion on AI in Education and its Progress
06:12 The Shift from Text-Based Learning to Multimodal Learning
11:39 Revolutionising Assessment with AI
13:57 The Changing Role of Teachers in the Age of AI
23:00 Excitement and Adoption of AI in Education
26:21 The Potential of AI to Enhance Learning Experiences
32:26 The Future of Teaching in the Age of AI
35:10 Addressing Accessibility and Personalising Learning
37:25 Supporting Workplace Learning
39:18 AI's Potential in Wellbeing and Psychological Support
42:13 Shifting Agency towards Learners
50:30 AI's Impact on Education and Human Exceptionalism
53:21 Increasing Productivity and Efficacy with AI
01:10:48 The Surprising Element in a Transformed Education System
01:12:57 The Challenge of Inequality in Education
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Jun 24, 2024 • 54min
Edufuturists #247 Creating Happy Places with Darren Coxon
In this episode, Darren Coxon from Coxon.ai discusses his background in education and his work in helping schools integrate AI. He emphasises the importance of creating a positive and purposeful use of AI tools in education. Darren breaks down AI in schools into three categories: AI that replaces what humans can do, AI thats data, and AI that enables new possibilities.
He also shares his strategic approach to using AI tools and recommends tools like ChatGPT, Google AI Studio, and Notebook LM. The conversation explores the need for a shift in education away from a worksheet mentality and towards a more interactive and engaging approach.
It emphasises the importance of creating a schooling system where both teachers and students want to be, with a curriculum based on meaningful topics. The use of AI, particularly chatbots, is discussed as a tool to support personalised learning and provide timely feedback.
The conversation also touches on the need for a balance between revolution and evolution in education, and the challenges of navigating competing vested interests.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
06:43 Lessons in Leadership
10:39 Creating the Right Environment for Leadership
14:22 The Simple Vision of Education
25:16 Avoiding Ineffective AI Tools
27:19 Shifting from a Worksheet Mentality to Interactive Learning
30:00 The Power of AI in Personalised Learning
36:30 Balancing Revolution and Evolution in Education
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Jun 17, 2024 • 55min
Edufuturists #246 Podcasting as Professional Development with Alex Gray
In this conversation, we invited Alex Gray on to discuss the education system in the Middle East, specifically in Dubai. We talk about the high expectations and demands placed on teachers in international schools, as well as the importance of continuous professional development and collaboration. Alex shares his personal journey from teaching in the UK to working in Dubai, highlighting the benefits and challenges of the international education system.
We also touch on the issue of work-life balance and the potential for burnout in a fast-paced and competitive environment.
The conversation covers topics such as time planning for teachers, the challenges of short contracts, the stability of teaching jobs in the UK, the motivation behind starting a podcast, the value of podcasting as professional development, the potential of podcasting in education, and the future of exams and education.
Takeaways
- The education system in Dubai, particularly in international schools, places high expectations and demands on teachers due to the significant fees paid by parents and the emphasis on results and outcomes.
- Continuous professional development (PD) is a major focus in Dubai, with numerous conferences, workshops, and training opportunities available for teachers.
- Collaboration and cross-school networking are encouraged.
- The international education system offers excellent facilities, resources, and support for teachers, allowing for innovative and engaging teaching practices.
- Teachers in Dubai have the opportunity to work with a diverse range of students and colleagues from different cultural backgrounds, creating a rich and dynamic learning environment.
- Maintaining a work-life balance can be challenging in Dubai, as the city offers many distractions and temptations. However, schools are increasingly recognising the importance of teacher well-being and implementing policies to support it.
- Teachers often struggle with time planning and time management, which can affect their productivity and work-life balance.
- Starting a podcast can be a fulfilling and valuable form of professional development, allowing educators to connect with others and learn from their experiences.
- Podcasting has the potential to be a powerful tool in education, providing a platform for sharing ideas, showcasing student work, and delivering content in a different format.
- Adaptability is a key skill that students will need in the future, as the world continues to change rapidly.
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Jun 10, 2024 • 40min
Edufuturists #245 Together The Third Big Review
In this episode of the podcast, we discuss our recent podcast listening experiences and the importance of diverse perspectives in education. We highlight the need for interdisciplinary skills and personalised learning, as well as the role of culture in education.
We also mention the upcoming Edufuturists Trends Book and the Uprising event, where we will explore the future of education and the challenges faced by teachers.
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Takeaways
Diverse perspectives and interdisciplinary skills are crucial in education.
Personalised learning and a focus on culture are essential for the future of education.
"In the age of artificial intelligence, the focus should be on developing human intelligence."
"You can't fix new problems with old solutions."
"Listening to voices outside of our echo chamber can bring fresh perspectives to education."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Podcast Listening Experiences
06:08 The Importance of Diverse Perspectives in Education
10:48 Interdisciplinary Skills and Personalised Learning
16:25 The Role of Culture in Education
32:43 The Edufuturists Trends Booklet and Uprising Event