
Edufuturists
We are led to believe that the education system will continually evolve to meet the needs of learners and society. This has not happened. We need a revolution!
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Jun 16, 2025 • 53min
Edufuturists #296 Finding Ways with Meagan Alfano
In this episode of the Edufuturists podcast, we chat with the wonderful Meagan Alfano all the way from Edmonton, Canada, who shares her insights on the importance of STEM education, the role of fun and creativity in learning, and innovative teaching practices such as design thinking and the use of micro:bit technology. Meagan discusses her journey in education, the challenges and shifts in the Canadian education system, and the need for educators to inspire and engage students. The conversation emphasises the significance of understanding diverse learning styles and the necessity of creating an engaging classroom environment. It's super high energy and helps us appreciate the need for lighting fires and not burning out too.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Background05:24 Megan's Journey in Education10:14 The Importance of Fun in Learning15:15 Design Thinking in Education20:20 Engaging Students through Creativity25:28 The Role of Passion in Teaching26:57 The Passion for Education31:44 The Importance of Fun in Learning43:43 Innovative Teaching with Micro:bits48:30 Quick Fire Reflections on EducationCheck out Meagan's workAlso subscribe to her podcast with another Edufuturist friend, Abid PatelThanks so much for joining us again for another episode - we appreciate you.Ben & Steve xChampioning those who are making the future of education a reality.Follow us on XFollow us on LinkedInCheck out all about EdufuturistsWant to sponsor future episodes or get involved with the Edufuturists work?Get in touch

Jun 9, 2025 • 50min
Edufuturists #295 Failure & Experience with Louise Jones
In this episode of the podcast, we welcome back Louise Jones, the Chief Community Officer at ThingLink. We discuss her journey in education technology, the significance of multi-modal learning, and the shift from measuring attendance to engagement in educational settings. Louise talks passionately about the importance of accessibility and compassion in communication, sharing a case study of Mitsubishi Electric's innovative training solutions that utilises immersive experiences to train future engineers. We also cover the role of technology in enhancing learning experiences, and the need for scenario-based and failure-based learning approaches, and how these methods can inspire the next generation of learners and prepare them for the workforce and beyond through creating engaging and supportive learning environments.Chapters00:00 Introductions01:59 Louise's Journey and Current Role06:13 The Importance of Multi-Modal Learning11:56 Engagement Over Attendance in Education18:00 Accessibility and Compassion in Communication21:50 Case Study: Mitsubishi Electric's Innovative Training Solutions24:21 Inspiring the Next Generation of Engineers25:38 The Role of Technology in Education27:49 Accessibility and Inclusivity in Engineering28:32 Digital Learning and Employability32:03 Scenario-Based Learning in Barista Training41:59 Embracing Failure-Based LearningCheck out more resources that Louise has shared: Multi-modal Learning: https://www.thinglink.com/blog/multi-modal-learning-in-action/The Mitsubishi Electric UK Webinar: https://www.thinglink.com/blog/new-webinar-engineering-the-future/Interactive Barista Course Overview: https://www.thinglink.com/scene/1981396205845877604Podcast from Notebook LM with Subtitles: https://www.thinglink.com/scene/1982055975649018533Thanks so much for joining us again for another episode - we appreciate you.Ben & Steve xChampioning those who are making the future of education a reality.Follow us on X: https://www.twitter.com/edufuturistsFollow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/edufuturists/Check out all about Edufuturists at https://www.edufuturists.comWant to sponsor future episodes or get involved with the Edufuturists work?Get in touch: info@edufuturists.com

Jun 2, 2025 • 48min
Edufuturists #294 Becoming Better Humans with Richard Culatta
In this episode of the podcast, we have the awesome privilege of being joined by none other than Richard Culatta, CEO of ISTE and former White House Education Adviser. We discuss the future of education and the role of technology in enhancing learning experiences.The conversation explores the importance of thoughtful tech integration (or not integration as you will hear Richard say!), the need for innovative teaching practices, and the significance of preparing students for a digital world. Richard shares insights on the Transformational Learning Principles and the necessity of authentic assessment in education. The conversation emphasises collaboration across the education ecosystem and the need to focus on uniquely human skills in an AI-driven future.Chapters00:00 Introductions02:01 Richard Culatta's Journey in Education03:20 ISTE's Role in Educational Innovation05:24 The Importance of Diverse Perspectives in Education09:08 Challenges of Innovation in Education13:12 Thoughtful Technology Integration16:56 Examples of Effective Tech Integration (!)22:28 Quality Standards in EdTech Products25:32 Engaging Learners in the Learning Process26:13 Nostalgia and the Evolution of Media Consumption27:42 The Importance of Diverse Perspectives in Innovation28:31 Creating Student-Centred Learning Experiences31:16 Transformational Learning Principles for Optimal Experiences32:22 Balancing Assessment and Enjoyment in Education34:07 The Sunk Cost Fallacy in Education40:58 Outdated Practices in Education42:45 Measuring Learning Success Beyond Grades44:48 Identifying Uniquely Human Skills in an AI WorldCheck out Richard's most recent book, Digital for GoodThanks so much for joining us again for another episode - we appreciate you.Ben & Steve xChampioning those who are making the future of education a reality.Follow us on XFollow us on LinkedInCheck out all about EdufuturistsWant to sponsor future episodes or get involved with the Edufuturists work?Get in touch

May 25, 2025 • 37min
Edufuturists #293 The Big Review Part 9
In this episode of the podcast, we review six recent episodes, discussing key themes in education, including the future of EdTech, the importance of community, the role of AI, and the need for change in educational leadership. We reflect on super insightful conversations with various guests, emphasising the need for agency, choice, and responsible use of technology in education. The episode also features book reviews and a look back at the podcast's journey as we approach our 300th episode.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Overview of Recent Episodes03:13 Innovative Approaches to Education06:17 The Importance of Community in Education Leadership09:14 The Role of AI in Education12:25 Book Reviews and Insights from Authors15:34 The Future of Education and Learning18:28 Reflections on Control and Compliance in Education22:29 Conversations on Learning and Teaching Methods25:23 Closing Thoughts and Future DirectionsThanks so much for joining us again for another episode - we appreciate you.Ben & Steve xChampioning those who are making the future of education a reality.Follow us on XFollow us on LinkedInCheck out all about EdufuturistsWant to sponsor future episodes or get involved with the Edufuturists work? Get in touch

May 19, 2025 • 56min
Edufuturists #292 Learning as Conversation with Professor Mike Sharples
In this episode of the podcast, we are joined by Professor Mike Sharples, an expert in educational technology, to discuss the evolving landscape of education, particularly in relation to AI and online learning. Mike is Emeritus Professor of Educational Technology at The Open University.We explore the history and impact of the Open University, the importance of pedagogy in integrating technology, and the potential of AI to enhance learning experiences. The conversation also addresses the challenges and opportunities presented by AI tutors, the need for rethinking assessment methods, and the transformative role of teachers in the digital age.Chapters00:00 Introductions02:43 The Evolution of Online Education04:35 Open University: A Beacon of Online Learning07:00 Pedagogy-Driven Technology in Education10:46 AI's Role in Enhancing Learning12:35 Personalised Learning vs. Collaborative Learning15:35 Testing and Research in Educational Technology18:25 Learning in Conversation with Generative AI21:56 The Power of Conversational Learning24:29 Openness to AI in Education28:45 The Future of AI Tutors in Education29:13 The Role of AI Tutors in Education32:44 Integrating AI with Human Teaching35:57 Transforming Teacher Roles in the AI Era39:46 Pedagogy and AI: A New Approach45:38 Overcoming Resistance to Change in Education51:40 Rethinking Assessment in the Age of AIMike has a new book out, Story MachinesCheck out his Innovative Pedagogy Thanks so much for joining us again for another episode - we appreciate you.Ben & Steve xChampioning those who are making the future of education a reality.Follow us on XFollow us on LinkedInCheck out all about EdufuturistsWant to sponsor future episodes or get involved with the Edufuturists work?Get in touchGet your tickets for Edufuturists Uprising 2025

May 12, 2025 • 54min
Edufuturists #291 Outstanding with Steve Baker
In this episode of the podcast, it is just Steve as Ben is away on his jetsetting adventures! But it's not just one Steve; we get a double Steve whammy as he is joined by Steve Baker, a seasoned educator and author. Steve lives in Anglesey, North Wales with his wife Sian. After a long career in education, from which he is semi-retired, he wrote his highly acclaimed non-fiction title, That Behaviour Book, which won book of the year in the Teach Secondary awards in 2023. As a life-long comedy fan, he’s now written his first hilarious novel, Outstanding.In this episode, the Steves discuss the evolving landscape of education, the role of technology, and the pressures of inspections. They delve into the themes of Steve's new book, exploring the use of humour to address serious issues in education, the dynamics between teachers and inspectors, and the importance of leadership in fostering a positive school environment. The conversation highlights the challenges faced by educators and the need for a balanced approach to teaching and management.Chapters00:00 Introductions01:27 Steve Baker's Background and Journey02:52 The Book 'Outstanding' - Origins and Themes05:54 The Purpose of Humour in Education09:45 The Role of Inspectors and School Leadership12:57 Responsibility in Education16:35 Leadership Styles and Their Impact20:27 Character Dynamics in Educational Inspections24:00 Teaching Behaviour: Leading vs. Managing30:00 The Chaos of Inspections and Regaining Control33:42 The Pressure of OfSTED Inspections37:20 The Reality of Educational Data40:17 Navigating Teacher Recruitment Issues44:15 Balancing Leadership and Educational Standards47:52 The Importance of Adaptability in EducationGrab a copy of OutstandingThanks so much for joining us again for another episode - we appreciate you.Ben & Steve xChampioning those who are making the future of education a reality.Follow us on XFollow us on LinkedInCheck out all about EdufuturistsWant to sponsor future episodes or get involved with the Edufuturists work?Get in touchGet your tickets for Edufuturists Uprising 2025

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May 5, 2025 • 57min
Edufuturists #290 Asking the Awkward Questions with Al Kingsley
In this episode of the podcast, we welcome back for the FOURTH time, the wonderful, majestic, Al Kingsley MBE, a prominent figure in the EdTech space. Alongside Al's personal challenges, we discuss his multifaceted roles in education, and the importance of supporting startups in the EdTech ecosystem. The conversation delves into the slow evolution of education systems, the need for change in educational conversations, and the release of Al's new book, which addresses awkward questions in education. The episode emphasises the interconnectedness of education, technology, and personal growth, highlighting the importance of power (not soft!) skills in the age of AI. In this conversation, we look again at the evolving landscape of education, focusing on the challenges of measuring intangible qualities, the need for reformed assessment methods, and the critical role of educators in adapting to change. We emphasise the importance of balancing accountability with nurturing environments for students, the necessity of systemic change, and the value of human aspects in education amidst technological advancements. The dialogue also touches on the need for a curriculum that reflects the skills, knowledge and dispositions required for future success, moving beyond traditional grading systems.Chapters00:00 Introductions01:41 Al Kingsley's Multifaceted Role in EdTech04:01 Personal Challenges and Professional Insights06:27 The Importance of Supporting Startups in EdTech08:52 The Slow Evolution of Education Systems11:20 Global Perspectives on Education and Technology15:27 Exploring Al's New Book: The Awkward Questions in Education20:00 The Need for Change in Educational Conversations27:21 The Challenge of Measuring Intangibles in Education30:52 Rethinking Assessment Methods32:22 The Role of Educators in a Changing Landscape35:59 Navigating the Fear of Change in Education39:47 The Importance of Systemic Change43:40 Balancing Accountability and Nurturing in Schools48:41 Redefining Success Beyond GradesGrab a copy of The Awkward Questions in Education: The Elephants in the Room from AI to Teacher RetentionThanks so much for joining us again for another episode - we appreciate you.Ben & Steve xChampioning those who are making the future of education a reality.Follow us on XFollow us on LinkedInCheck out all about EdufuturistsWant to sponsor future episodes or get involved with the Edufuturists work?Get in touchGet your tickets for Edufuturists Uprising 2025

Apr 28, 2025 • 53min
Edufuturists #289 Responsible AI with Jamie Smith
In this episode of the podcast, we are joined again by Dr Jamie Smith, Executive Chairman at C-Learning and author of the new book The Responsible AI Revolution. Jamie joins us to discuss the intersection of AI and education, emphasising the need for a responsible approach to AI implementation. Jamie introduces his book, which addresses the potential consequences of AI in education and the importance of asking deeper questions about its role. The conversation explores ethical considerations, the need for upskilling, and the redefinition of roles in the workforce as AI continues to evolve. In this conversation, we explore the transformative impact of AI on productivity, leadership, and organisational culture. We also discuss the necessity for leaders to embrace discomfort and innovation, the importance of a supportive culture for AI adoption, and the potential for a collective approach to AI governance. The dialogue also touches on the need for a reimagined educational framework that prioritises human well-being over standardised assessments, as well as the importance of living in the present and making meaningful contributions to society.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Context of AI in Education06:04 The Responsible AI Revolution12:09 Ethical Considerations and Unintended Consequences18:01 Upskilling and Redefining Roles in the Age of AI27:26 Embracing AI: A Paradigm Shift30:08 Positive Disruption and Innovation32:03 Leadership in the Age of AI36:03 The Role of Culture in AI Adoption39:44 The Future of AI and Our Collective Responsibility46:51 Rethinking Education for the AI EraGrab a copy of The Responsible AI Revolution.Thanks so much for joining us again for another episode - we appreciate you.Ben & Steve xChampioning those who are making the future of education a reality.Follow us on XFollow us on LinkedInCheck out all about EdufuturistsWant to sponsor future episodes or get involved with the Edufuturists work?Get in touchGet your tickets for Edufuturists Uprising 2025

Apr 14, 2025 • 56min
Edufuturists #288 The Connected Leader with Lucy & Jonathan Coy
In this episode of the podcast, we are delighted to be joined by Lucy and Jonathan Coy, experienced educators and founders of the popular online community, HeadteacherChat. They discuss their journey in education, the challenges faced by school leaders, and the importance of building a supportive community. The conversation highlights the need for connection among educators, the resources available through HeadteacherChat, and the core values that guide their mission to empower school leaders and combat isolation in the profession. In this conversation, Lucy and Jonathan discuss the critical importance of connection and community in education, emphasising the need to support one another and combat isolation. They reflect on the past, noting how community ties have weakened over time, and explore the balance between competition and collaboration in schools. The role of technology in enhancing human connection is also highlighted, alongside the significance of collective voices in shaping educational practices. They share examples of successful collaboration among educators and express their vision for a future where educational leadership fosters support and connection rather than isolation.Chapters00:00 Introductions01:04 Lucy and Jonathan's Journey in Education04:04 The Birth of HeadteacherChat06:57 Building a Supportive Community for School Leaders12:59 Creating Safe Spaces for Discussion19:05 Addressing Common Challenges in Education25:01 Core Values of HeadteacherChat29:07 The Importance of Connection Over Isolation29:59 Learning from the Past: Community and Education31:07 The Erosion of Community in Modern Society33:10 Competition vs. Collaboration in Education34:54 Technology's Role in Enhancing Human Connection37:26 The Power of Collective Voice in Education39:21 Collaboration Among Educators: Best Practices42:41 Celebrating Success and Building Community44:25 The Future of Educational Leadership48:51 Quickfire Questions: Rethinking EducationFind out more about HeadteacherChat and connect with the team on socials.Thanks so much for joining us again for another episode - we appreciate you.Ben & Steve xChampioning those who are making the future of education a reality.Follow us on XFollow us on LinkedInCheck out all about EdufuturistsWant to sponsor future episodes or get involved with the Edufuturists work?Get in touchGet your tickets for Edufuturists Uprising 2025

Apr 7, 2025 • 1h 5min
Edufuturists #287 The Pick 'n' Mix Marketplace with Ben Somers
In this episode of the podcast, we chat with Benjamin Somers, the founder of Recess, a platform designed to revolutionise education by putting kids in control of their learning. They discuss the vision behind Recess, its marketplace for learning, and the importance of safety and moderation in online education. Benjamin shares his personal journey and the purpose driving his mission to create a more engaging and individualised educational experience for children. The conversation emphasises the need for a pick-and-mix approach to education, allowing for personalised learning paths that cater to each child's interests and aspirations. In this conversation, we explore innovative approaches to education, especially the need to rethink traditional schooling. We discuss the importance of personalised learning, the role of technology and algorithms in education, and the challenges of implementing new educational models. The conversation also touches on the concept of school choice and its impact on communities, as well as the pain points driving change in the education system. Ultimately, we highlight the potential for a more engaging and effective learning experience for children.Chapters00:00 Introduction01:24 The Vision Behind Recess02:39 Exploring the Recess Platform07:20 Marketplace for Learning10:46 Safety and Moderation in Education11:04 Supporting Decision-Making for Kids13:04 The Pick 'n' Mix Future of Education20:03 Personal Journey and Purpose24:52 Revolutionising Education for Independence30:05 The Importance of Individual Learning Paths34:05 Rethinking Education: A New Vision35:09 Exploring Learning Beyond Traditional Schooling39:08 The Role of Algorithms in Personalised Learning42:42 Challenges of Implementing New Educational Models44:48 Scaling Innovative Education Solutions49:12 School Choice: A New Era in Education51:01 The Impact of School Choice on Communities55:00 Pain Points Driving Educational Change56:41 Quickfire Questions: Insights on EducationFind out more about Recess - where kids design their own educationThanks so much for joining us again for another episode - we appreciate you.Ben & Steve xChampioning those who are making the future of education a reality.Follow us on XFollow us on LinkedInCheck out all about EdufuturistsWant to sponsor future episodes or get involved with the Edufuturists work?Get in touchGet your tickets for Edufuturists Uprising 2025