
Thinking On Paper: A Technology Podcast For Curious Minds
Hosted by Mark and Jeremy, Thinking On Paper is a weekly conversation asking the big questions:
What kind of world are we building?
What does it mean to stay human in the age Of AI?
How do we raise kids who can think critically and stay curious?
Grab a front-row seat as CEOs, founders, outliers and artists unpack the “why” behind everything from AI and quantum computing to space manufacturing, bio-engineering and clean energy.
New conversations every Thursday • Book Club episodes every Monday
Follow now and slow down the future.
Latest episodes

Jun 28, 2024 • 46min
Olas Protocol: Blockchain Can Bring Trust Back To Journalism (And Make Money For Writers) - Ciaran Murray, CEO
This week we speak with Ciaran Murray about media and journalism, why it's broken and how web3 and blockchain technology to bring truth and trust back to your news feed.
Ciaran is a seasoned veteran of the blockchain industry, advising on numerous web3 projects and releasing a synthetics assets proof-of-concept last year. Ciarán previously worked in the media industry for British Sky Broadcasting. As such, he is well placed to understand the issues facing the media industry and how to apply blockchain and other distributed technologies to remedy them.
He is now the CEO of Olas Protocol. The Olas Foundation’s protocol seeks to harness the power of blockchain technology to make all non-private information freely available and to drive positive change in the media landscape.
Olas tackles the economic precarity facing media with the introduction of novel funding mechanisms and tackles the dissemination of disinformation through open but collusion-resistant review protocols, providing a viable alternative to traditional media.
“We are passionate about the preservation of high-quality journalism and scientific research, while increasing its availability to the public. The current media industry is facing a dire economic situation and is plagued with bias and a resultant lack of trust. Olas aims to minimise bias and return more value to content creators by removing hierarchical control of the media." - Ciaran Murray
Learn more - https://olas.info/
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Past guests on The Thinking On Paper Show include: Ciaran Murray (web3 for journalists), Torrey Smith (Robotics For Medicine), Jason Lynch (Quantum Computing), Joe Fitzsimons (Quantum Computing), Dana Sydorenko (Gaming), Don Norman (Humanity Centered Design), Mercina Tillerman Perez (Circle & Crypto), Tyler Adams (Blockchain), Todd Haselhorst (Blockchain for Logistics), Vince Yang (ZK Proofs), Shiti Manghani (StepN CEO), Han Jin (Web3 & Digital Identity), Senthil Nayagam (Deep Fakes), Dr Larry Rosen (Tech Psychology), Justin Germishuys (A.I.), Alexandra Whittington (Futurism), Jaime Schwarz (Web3 & Blockchain), Jason Todd Shannon (Music), Toa Dunn (League Of Legends & Gaming), Thomas Frey (Futurism), Aragorn Meulendijks (Metaverse), Janina Vinklere (Web3), Anthony Glukhov (A.I.), Markus Thielen (Bitcoin), Luz Donahue (NFT Art), Neil Redding (Spatial Computing), Sebastien Borget (Metaverse), Evan Shapiro (Media), Rachel Noonan (VR), Dominik karaman (Web3), Julio Ottino (Nexus - Art, Science & Technology), Jesper Nordin (Blockchain), Josh Katz (NFT Tickets), Ankur Pathak (Crypto), Viroshan Naicker (Quantum Computing), Kevin Reidl (Blockchain), Dean Wilson (Music), Yolanda Barton (VR), Charlie Northrup (A.I.), Kassi Burns (A.I.), Josh Goldblum (VR), Jonathan Blanco (Web3), B Earl (Hollywood & A.I.), Keatly Halderman (Blockchain Music), Elizabeth Strickler (Metaverse)

Jun 21, 2024 • 54min
Quantum Season: 2 Scientists Speak About Quantum Computer And What They Can Actually Do For Culture & Business
Professor George C. Schatz is Professor of Chemistry and of Chemical and Biological Engineering at North-western University. He received his undergraduate degree in chemistry at Clarkson University and a Ph. D at Caltech. He was a postdoc at MIT, and has been at North-western since 1976.
Schatz is a theoretician who studies the optical, structural and thermal properties of nanomaterials, including plasmonic nanoparticles, DNA and peptide nanostructures, and carbon-based materials, with applications in chemical and biological sensing, electronic and biological materials, high performance fibers, and solar energy. His past work has also been concerned with understanding the dynamics of chemical reactions in the gas phase and in gas-surface collisions.
Professor Anupam Garg is interested in the formalism and applications of coherent state path integrals, especially as they relate to spin angular momentum and molecular magnets. He also maintains a cultural interest in the foundations of quantum mechanics.
Since 2020, he has been collaborating with Professor Ketterson on micromagnetic simulations of various phenomena related to ferromagnetic resonance and nonlinear, large angle dynamics.
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Describe your interest in quantum mechanics and culture (Apunam)
What does everyone need to know (no matter their position or industry) about quantum Mechanics?
How will these principles affect innovation in the current industries
What are the most compelling intersections of your work and the evolution of the industries that we know today?
What keeps you up at night with the knowledge that you hold?
What are the most important unanswered questions in science today?
How do things get lost in the translation from science to industry? How do you bridge the gap
What’s the one question you wish people would ask you (about science) that they never do?
For show notes and past guests on Thinking on Paper, please visit Thinkingonpaper.xyz
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Past guests on The Thinking On Paper Show include: Ciaran Murray (web3 for journalists), Torrey Smith (Robotics For Medicine), Jason Lynch (Quantum Computing), Joe Fitzsimons (Quantum Computing), Dana Sydorenko (Gaming), Don Norman (Humanity Centered Design), Mercina Tillerman Perez (Circle & Crypto), Tyler Adams (Blockchain), Todd Haselhorst (Blockchain for Logistics), Vince Yang (ZK Proofs), Shiti Manghani (StepN CEO), Han Jin (Web3 & Digital Identity), Senthil Nayagam (Deep Fakes), Dr Larry Rosen (Tech Psychology), Justin Germishuys (A.I.), Alexandra Whittington (Futurism), Jaime Schwarz (Web3 & Blockchain), Jason Todd Shannon (Music), Toa Dunn (League Of Legends & Gaming), Thomas Frey (Futurism), Aragorn Meulendijks (Metaverse), Janina Vinklere (Web3), Anthony Glukhov (A.I.), Markus Thielen (Bitcoin), Luz Donahue (NFT Art), Neil Redding (Spatial Computing), Sebastien Borget (Metaverse), Evan Shapiro (Media), Rachel Noonan (VR), Dominik karaman (Web3), Julio Ottino (Nexus - Art, Science & Technology), Jesper Nordin (Blockchain), Josh Katz (NFT Tickets), Ankur Pathak (Crypto), Viroshan Naicker (Quantum Computing), Kevin Reidl (Blockchain), Dean Wilson (Music), Yolanda Barton (VR), Charlie Northrup (A.I.), Kassi Burns (A.I.), Josh Goldblum (VR), Jonathan Blanco (Web3), B Earl (Hollywood & A.I.), Keatly Halderman (Blockchain Music), Elizabeth Strickler (Metaverse)

Jun 17, 2024 • 22min
Book Club: The Order Of Time, Carlo Rovelli - Welcome To A World Without Time
This week's book club dives into the black hole of time. We're reading chapters 7 & 8 of The Order of Time by Carlo Rovelli and it's all about language, vocabulary, grammar and how you don't have the words to describe time.
TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Welcome to book club
1:33 The Present Continuous
2:51 How the past affects the present
3:57 Only the present is real
4:19 What is the block universe
6:30 Interconnected change
8:44 How many words in the NY Times
10:40 Indicators of time
11:30 Past and future are relative to your present
12:55 Chapter 8
14:51 Loop Theory and a world with no time
16:58 Probability of time
18:02 Quanta of space
19:52 Too much stimuli
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Praise For The Order Of TimePhilip Pullman:
"Wonderful... Time is something we know about instinctively, here Carlo shows how profoundly strange it is." - John Banville
"Physics has found its poet." - Tom Whipple
"An elegantly concise primer that makes theoretical physics intelligible stunningly written."
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About the hosts:
Jeremy is a Nexus Thinker and interdisciplinary entrepreneur working across music, technology and story. He leads his wellness mastermind Write To Know You at major universities and organizations around the world.
Mark is a storyteller, writer and thinker exploring emerging technologies for LVMH & Culture3.
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Jun 14, 2024 • 30min
Circle: How Cryptocurrency Is Being Used To Create Corruption Resistant Humanitarian Aid Pipelines - Mercina Tillerman-Perez, VP Impact
Mercina Tillerman-Perez is VP at Circle Impact. She joins Thinking On Paper to tell us how Circle are using crypto currency for good.
Collecting funds to support displaced people around the world is only half the battle. The other half is delivering it to people in need – no matter where they are. UNHCR + the UN Refugee Agency are turning to USDC, running on the Stellar blockchain.
Eliminating the need for those fleeing instability to carry cash, credit or debit cards – aid recipients can access vital support via a Vibrant digital wallet – and exchange their USDC for local currency at any MoneyGram location.
Who they are working with, and where the success stories are. It's a long road, there are no easy or quick fixes, but crypto can be used to help get aid and money where it should be.
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TIMESTAMPS
(00:00) Disruptors and Curious Minds
(01:07) Blockchain For Good
(02:39) Our Sponsors Wripple
(03:16) Last week's question
(05:36) Building humanitarian aid pipelines
(07:06) Moving assets in high risk situations
(09:40) Saving 40% when delivering humanitarian aid
(11:14) Circle In Venezuela
(13:00) USDC
(15:04) Ukraine and MoneyGram
(17:26) Partners & Value chains
(19:18) Let the experts lead
(19:42) Lessons In Coordination with NGOs
(22:00) Humanity centred design
(23:43) Existing systems
(24:44) Circle's Unlocking impact competition
(28:00) A Question for next week's guest
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Jun 10, 2024 • 27min
Book Club: The Order Of Time, By Carlo Rovelli - What Is Quantum Gravity?
Welcome to book club. We're still reading the Order of Time by Carlo Rovelli. It's still warping our minds like time and space. This is The surprise episode when I forgot to tell Jeremy our special guest was a quantum physicist! And we still aren't sure what quantum gravity is.
What role does quantum gravity play in time? Are they the same thing? What is granularity, and why does it mean time doesn't flow? Hell yeah! What's Planck length? Why does it matter... Superposition of electrons, fine... but superposition of time? The past present and future are just probabilities? WTF?
Please enjoy the show as much as we did.
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Praise For The Order Of Time
Philip Pullman: "Wonderful... Time is something we know about instinctively, here Carlo shows how profoundly strange it is."
John Banville: "Physics has found its poet."
Tom Whipple: "An elegantly concise primer that makes theoretical physics intelligible stunningly written."
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👉 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGBczY4sIzQ&t=1444s
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Jun 7, 2024 • 53min
COZ: Surprising Ways Brands Can Use Blockchain In The Real World - Tyler Adams, CEO
You can't take meme coins, Ethereum re-staking and airdrops to your marketing manager as a valid business case for blockchain. They'll laugh you out of town. What you need is some web3 real world utility.
Tyler Adams is co-founder and CEO at COZ, a Web3 software development community building blockchain applications. Tyler operates at what many might call the cutting edge of Blockchain Development - NFTs/NFIs, Product Design, Engineering, Real World Applications, Open Source Development, DID, and Verifiable Claims...
🔍 In This Episode:
From inception to execution, discover the story behind COZ’s rise in the blockchain space.
Cutting-Edge Tech: Unravel the complexities of NFTs/NFIs, Product Design, Engineering, and more with Tyler’s expert insights.
Real-World Impact: How is blockchain technology revolutionizing industries? We explore tangible use cases from NEO/COZ and beyond.
The 80/20 of Blockchain: Identifying the critical 20% driving 80% of the impact in blockchain adoption for brands.
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Jeremy is a Nexus Thinker and interdisciplinary entrepreneur working across music, technology and story. He leads his wellness mastermind Write To Know You at major universities and organizations around the world.
Mark is a storyteller, writer and thinker exploring emerging technologies for LVMH & Culture3. He’s the founder of Metaverse-Writer, a self-published author, NFT creator and generalist.
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May 31, 2024 • 50min
The Global Logistics Industry Loses Billions Every Year: Blockchain Can Fill The Void
Disruptors and Curious minds! Here's a crazy fact: The global logistics industry is worth €8 trillion a year. It's the critical backbone of the world economy. Yet, it’s haemorrhaging billions due to theft, inefficiency and poorly managed data sharing.The dawn of emerging technologies heralds a new era of optimization—ushering in cost-effective, swift, and planet-friendly operations. The ripple effect? You get to enjoy lower-priced goods and speedier deliveries. This week on Thinking on Paper, we learn how...Todd Haselhorst is CEO and founder of HEALE, a unified API platform—leverages tokenization and Zero-Knowledge (ZK) proofs to revolutionize data exchange and route optimization for shipping, trucking, and freight.We’ll explore how cutting-edge solutions are redefining the landscape of freight, shipping, and delivery companies. These businesses are not just looking to shave off excess costs; they’re on a quest to fortify their data against breaches and ensure their financial health is robust.================🎧 Listen Now & Enjoy the Show!👉 Sponsors: www.wripple.com👉 Watch on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUWUf8NXdlo&t=7s🔗 Follow Mark And Jeremy:Join the Book Club: Thinking on Paper================================

May 30, 2024 • 18min
Book Club: The Order Of Time (Part 3) - What Happens When Nothing Happens?
Disruptors and curious minds, book lovers. Welcome to book club. We're reading The Order of Time by Carlo Rovelli....And this week It's a battle between Newton and Aristotle and Einstein in the referee. It's twisted. Like space and time. Who is right? Does time move, what happens when nothing happens?
Gravitational fields.
Quantum gravity.
Just what the hell is time?
Benjamin Franklin said once you lose it, you’ll never find it again. Theophrastrus said it was the most valuable thing you can spend. Pericles said it was the wisest counsellor of all. Oscar Wilde said punctuality steals it away.
Turns out they were all wrong.
Ladies and gentlemen, Albert Einstein. “The distinction between the past, present and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion.”
Or,
“Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute.”
Isaac Newton said, “Absolute, true and mathematical time, of itself, and from its own nature flows equably without relation to anything external.”
Aristotle said, “Remember that time slurs over everything, let all deeds fade, blurs all writings and kills all memories. Exempt are only those which dig into the hearts of men by love.”
Time really is all we have.
Please Enjoy The Show.
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Praise For The Order Of Time
Philip Pullman: "Wonderful... Time is something we know about instinctively, here Carlo shows how profoundly strange it is."
John Banville: "Physics has found its poet."
Tom Whipple: "An elegantly concise primer that makes theoretical physics intelligible stunningly written."
👉 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60ioQBXHh9A&t=868s
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May 30, 2024 • 20min
Book Club: The Order Of Time (Part 2) - Bad News From Space And Time... You Have No Present
Book lovers, readers! Welcome to book club. Part 2 of The Order of Time by Carlo Rovelli continues to warp our minds, just as space and time are warped....
Benjamin Franklin said once you lose it, you’ll never find it again. Theophrastrus said it was the most valuable thing you can spend. Pericles said it was the wisest counsellor of all. Oscar Wilde said punctuality steals it away.
Turns out they were all wrong.
Ladies and gentlemen, Albert Einstein. “The distinction between the past, present and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion.”
Or,“Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute.”
Isaac Newton said, “Absolute, true and mathematical time, of itself, and from its own nature flows equably without relation to anything external.”
Aristotle said, “Remember that time slurs over everything, let all deeds fade, blurs all writings and kills all memories. Exempt are only those which dig into the hearts of men by love.”
Time really is all we have.
Please Enjoy The Show.
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Timestamps
0:00 Welcome To Book Club
0:31 Einstein Realises time is slowed by speed
1:05 The secret of life, the passage of time
1:54 There is no unification of time
2:21 Does speed or mass disrupt time more?
4:03 Maxwell's equations
5:51 The most important revelations in modern physics
7:22 Reflected light
9:02 Living on Proxima B
12:44 Jeremy explains light cones (lols)
14:54 Parcels of time
16:44 Mass and time stoner talk
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Praise For The Order Of Time
Philip Pullman: "Wonderful... Time is something we know about instinctively, here Carlo shows how profoundly strange it is."
John Banville: "Physics has found its poet."
Tom Whipple: "An elegantly concise primer that makes theoretical physics intelligible stunningly written."
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May 27, 2024 • 40min
The Real Da Vinci Code: The Art (And Science) of Being a Modern-Day Polymath
Our planned guest had technical issues so Jeremy and I went live and spoke about the great polymaths of history, like Da Vinci and Michelangelo, how they leveraged their diverse knowledge to shape the world and what it means to be a polymath in 2024.
🔭 The benefits of a polymathic approach for individuals and organizations.
🔭 The impact of polymathy on modern education and professional landscapes.
🔭 Why the world needs more polymaths in this era of complexity and interconnected challenges.
🔭 The key differences between a polymath and a generalist, and why it matters.
🔭 Is Jeremy a polymath?
🔭 Is Mark a polymath?
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About the hosts:
Jeremy is a Nexus Thinker and interdisciplinary entrepreneur working across music, technology and story. He leads his wellness mastermind Write To Know You at major universities and organizations around the world.
Mark is a storyteller, writer and thinker exploring emerging technologies for LVMH & Culture3. He’s the founder of Metaverse-Writer, a self-published author, NFT creator and generalist.
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Join the book club - http://www.thinkingonpaper.xyz/bookclub
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