
Thinking On Paper: A Technology Podcast For Curious Minds
Hosted by Mark and Jeremy, Thinking On Paper is a weekly conversation asking the big questions:
What kind of world are we building?
What does it mean to stay human in the age Of AI?
How do we raise kids who can think critically and stay curious?
Grab a front-row seat as CEOs, founders, outliers and artists unpack the “why” behind everything from AI and quantum computing to space manufacturing, bio-engineering and clean energy.
New conversations every Thursday • Book Club episodes every Monday
Follow now and slow down the future.
Latest episodes

Jul 8, 2025 • 38min
Antropic CEO Dario Amodei Says An AI Utopia Could Be 5 Years Away | Machines Of Loving Grace
Jeremy and Mark dissect Dario Amodei’s essay Machines of Loving Grace. Amodei is the CEO of Anthropic and predicts - if all goes right - an AI utopia where most physical and mental diseases are a memory, wealth and development is evenly distributed across the world, AI has not been hijacked by dictators and all the world's a beautiful stage.The hook? This could happen in five to ten years. Please enjoy the show. And share with a curious friend.--Read the essay: https://www.darioamodei.com/essay/machines-of-loving-grace#fn:1--Follow and Support Thinking On Paper🎙️PODCAST: www.thinkingonpaper.xyz📸 INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/thinkingonpaperpodcast/X: https://x.com/thinkonpaperpod--Chapters(00:00) Machines Of Loving Grace(02:46) Dario Amodei's Definition Of Powerful AI(05:11) Speed Of The Outside World(07:24) Complexity(11:27) List Of Diseases AI Will Cure(13:46) Neuroscience And Mind(15:45) AI For Everyone?(21:33) Peace And Government(25:03) Work And Meaning(31:56) What's Meaningful?(34:27) Taking Stock--Connect the dots of AI, quantum and emerging technology and watch these videos next:

Jul 3, 2025 • 19min
The Universe Is Created By Conscious Seities: Federico Faggin, Irreducible (Chapter 10)
In Chapter 10 of Irreducible, Federico Faggin, Mark and Jeremy Think on Paper about the real architecture behind consciousness: The Seity. Quantum gremlins, seities want only to know. To know themselves and help the universe - The One - know itself. And the seities have been here from the beginning, because they are everything. Reality is a construction of seities and Good news ladies and gentlemen, Death isn't the end! Your consciousness lives on for eternity. Please enjoy the show. And share with a curious friend. --Follow and support us please:🎙️PODCAST: www.thinkingonpaper.xyz📷 INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/thinkingonpaperpodcast/—Chapters (00:00) Federico Faggin, Irreducible Chapter 10(02:10) Computers And Consciousness (03:31) Seities All The Way Down(10:25) Carl Jung Collective Consciousness(12:02) Quantum Freud(15:21) Robots, AI And Seities—Watch the book club on YouTube where you can get a chapter by chapter breakdown of Irreducible by Federico Faggin: https://www.youtube.com/@thinkingonpaper/videos

Jul 1, 2025 • 22min
The Universe Knows The Meaning Of Life: Federico Faggin, Irreducible (Chapter 9)
Consciousness, life and free will exist from the very beginning as properties of the holistic whole (The One). According to Federico Faggin, the inanimate universe didn't come first, but derives from a deeper quantum reality inhabited by seities with consciousness and free will that communicate meaning with each other. In this week's Thinking on Paper Book Club, Mark and Jeremy read Chapter 9 of Irreducible by Federico Faggin and try to understand the meaning of life, the universe and everything in it.Please enjoy the show. And share with a curious friend.—🎙️ Podcast: thinkingonpaper.xyz 📷 Instagram: @thinkingonpaperpodcast 📕 Book: Irreducible by Federico Faggin: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/195480862—Chapters(00:00) Chapter 9 of Irreducible, Federico Faggin(02:36) The Absurdity Of Classical Laws(04:26) Hilbert Space For Dummies(07:00) What Are Seities?(08:54) Science, Religion And Spirituality(11:46) Seities, Consciousness And Aliens(13:04) Conscious Units And How The Universe Understands(15:30) Are Seities Souls? (16:11) Seities And How You Have Life After Death—Key TakeawaysConsciousness is not emergent. It’s fundamentalSeities are conscious units inside a knowing universeHilbert space may be the structure of inner realitySpirituality isn't narrative. It's architectureGrowth is life. Stasis is death

Jun 25, 2025 • 37min
Zen And The Art of Artificial Intelligence | Ram Srinivasan
Can AI ever be aware? Can it be conscious—and if so, what would that mean for business and the future of work? In this week's show, Jeremy and Mark sit down with Ram Srinivasan, author of The Conscious Machine: From Artificial to Enlightened Intelligence, to think on paper about consciousness, Advaita Vedanta, panpsychism and why Eastern philosophy changes how we design every AI system. It might be the most important podcast on AI you listen to today. Rethinking work in an exponential age Linear mindsets can’t keep pace with automation. We explore how to direct AI toward human flourishing, not just efficiency.Trust as the new currency From autonomous agents to AI-native organizations, credibility, values and wisdom are the foundations of any lasting advantage.Please enjoy the show. And share it with a curious friend.--Links & Resources Ram Srinivasan: https://www.ram-srinivasan.com/ The Conscious Machine: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D4R9NJ53 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ramsrinivasanmit/Follow Thinking on Paper Podcast: www.thinkingonpaper.xyz Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinkingonpaperpodcast/ X: https://x.com/thinkonpaperpod--Timestamps (00:00) Exploring the Future of Work and AI (00:53) The Intersection of Consciousness and Technology (03:44) Advaita Vedanta: Understanding Consciousness (06:40) Materialism vs. Non-Dualism in AI (14:25) The Shift from Knowledge to Wisdom (16:29) Post-Labor Economics and AI’s Role (19:01) Building Trust in AI Agents (21:46) The Currency of Trust in Business (26:35) The AI-Native Workplace: A New Era (30:37) Navigating Trust and Critical Thinking in AI (33:16) Human-Centric Technology: The Future of Work (35:33) What Should Humans Be?--Watch Next Kevin Kelly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awZ5LRX8o6o&ab_channel=ThinkingOnPaper

Jun 20, 2025 • 37min
AI Compute Is The Next Trillion Dollar Asset Class. Crypto Lets You Invest
Kony Kwong, CEO and Founder of GAIB joins Mark and Jeremy to Think On Paper about GPU backed stablecoins and investing in AI infrastructure.GAIB turns GPU clusters into yield machines. Real hardware. Real cash flow. Real contracts. You don’t need deep pockets. You need guts and a wallet.Top-shelf AI chips don’t go to market. They go straight to the vaults of Amazon, Google, Microsoft. Billion-dollar pre-orders. Closed systems. No ownership. No access. Just press releases and a rising stock price you’re supposed to cheer for.Inside this episode:How GAIB wraps racks of H100s into smart contracts that spit out incomeWhat it takes to audit a global data center rental pool with chain-native transparencyWhy the next trillion-dollar asset class isn’t crypto, and it isn’t AI. It’s computeWhat Big Tech doesn’t want you to see: that retail capital can actually own the pipesHow GAIB secured $400 million worth of live GPUs and opened the gatesAnd yes — the risks. Depreciation. Defaults. Regulatory smoke. We get into it.This isn’t a stock tip. This is a blueprint for taking part in the AI revolution without playing someone else’s game.Own the compute. Collect the yield. Or keep applauding from the cheap seats.Please enjoy the show. And share with an AI friend.--Links and resourcesGAIB: https://gaib.ai/ Kony: https://x.com/konyk001 --Follow Thinking On Paper 🎙️PODCAST: www.thinkingonpaper.xyz INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/thinkingonpaperpodcast/X: https://x.com/thinkonpaperpod -- Chapters (00:00) Intro: Why Compute Is the Next Currency (01:30) From GPUs to Blockchain: GAIB’s Origin Story (04:05) The $7 Trillion Problem: Inside GAIB (06:38) Funding Data-Centres Fast: GAIB’s Capital Playbook(09:17) Cloud vs Data-Centre: Who Really Owns the GPUs? (11:07) Why Local GPU Hubs Beat Latency (13:50) Scaling Safely: Token Standards for Compute Financing (17:35) Pricing an H200: Turning GPUs into Cash-Flow Assets (21:50) AID Token Explained: The ‘Mutual Fund’ of Compute Yield (23:07) Global GPU Partners: First NVIDIA-Approved Clouds in Asia & Beyond (27:02) Will AI Kill Work or Create It? (32:49) What should humans be?

Jun 17, 2025 • 32min
Inside IBM’s $30 Billion Bet: Why Quantum Computing Gets Real with Starling
Oliver Dial, CTO of IBM Quantum, delves into the groundbreaking advancements of the Starling quantum chip. With a rich background in condensed matter physics, he explains how IBM's focus on fault-tolerance is set to revolutionize quantum computing. The conversation highlights the shift from raw qubit counts to scalable reliability, aiming for a 1:1000 logical-to-physical qubit ratio by 2029. Dial also discusses the synergy between quantum and classical computing, making complex ideas accessible and exciting for everyone curious about the future of technology.

Jun 15, 2025 • 42min
European Science Writer of The Year: Those Aren't Aliens, That's A Neutron Star!
Katia Moskvitch was European Science Writer of the year. She wrote for WIRED, Nature, and the BBC, then walked away from it all to research Neutron Stars. She joins Mark and Jeremy to Think On Paper about her book Neutron Stars: The Quest to Understand the Zombies of the Cosmos. From her background in science writing and working for the World Economic Forum on quantum computers, to her time at CERN and speaking with Jocelyn Bell and her new book where she aims to bring together quantum gravity and Einstein's theory of general relativity, we cover a lot of space bases. We get into the reeds of:What neutron stars are.- Why Jocelyn Bell Burnell didn't win a Nobel Prize, but should have.-What makes a great science writer.-Why surface-level tech writing is a betrayal of the reader- How women are treated in science.And much more.Please enjoy the show. And share with a curious friend. --LinksKatia: https://www.quantamagazine.org/authors/katiamoskvitch/Neutron Stars: The Quest for the Zombies of The Cosmos: https://www.amazon.com/Neutron-Stars-Understand-Zombies-Cosmos/dp/0674919351Follow Thinking On PaperThinking On Paper: www.thinkingonpaper.xyzInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinkingonpaperpodcast/--Former Guests:IBM, D-Wave, Kevin Kelly, Don Norman, Coinbase, Starcloud, David Bianchi, IONQ--Chapters(00:09) Why Curiosity Still Matters in Science Communication (01:52) What Makes a Great Science Journalist (04:56) Katia’s Journey from BBC to Nature to Wired (09:20) Reporting Science from the Field (and Under Solar Panels) (11:26) When Awards Don’t Mean Understanding (14:42) Quantum Computing Without the Hype (17:31) What Most People Misunderstand About Qubits (21:21) The Women Erased from Scientific Discovery (22:23) Neutron Stars: Why One Spoon Weighs More Than Earth (26:33) Jocelyn Bell Burnell and the Pulsar That Changed Everything (30:28) Astrophysics, Gender, and the Fight for Recognition (32:09) Quantum Weirdness and the Future of Technology (40:13) Space, AI, and What Comes After Us

Jun 5, 2025 • 29min
A New Vision Of Consciousness: Federico Faggin, Irreducible (Chapter 8)
Did consciousness exist before life itself? Is it fundamental to the universe? Mark and Jeremy continue their book club exploration of Irreducible, by Federico Faggin.In Chapter 8 of Irreducible, Federico Faggin redefines physics, maths and what it means to be human: consciousness isn’t just a byproduct of your brain, but a fundamental feature of the universe. Please enjoy the show. And share with a curious friend. --Chapters(00:00) Consciousness and The Big Questions(01:24) The Shift in Understanding Consciousness(02:38) Consciousness: Quantum vs Classical(06:14) What Is Panpsychism and Quantum Information?(09:03) Qualia and Conscious Experience(11:23) What Is Seity?(19:26) Free Will and Quantum Entanglement(21:21) Unsolved Problems of Existence--Read more: www.thinkingonpaper.xyz

Jun 2, 2025 • 50min
The Web3 Cheat Code: Robby Yung, CEO Animoca Brands
If the hype vanished tomorrow, what would Web3 still need?”Animoca Brands backs almost every household name in Web3—from The Sandbox to Dapper Labs, Polygon, and OpenSea.But CEO Robby Yung isn’t here to flex a portfolio; he’s here to explain why they’re still building when the market cycles out of euphoria.In this Thinking on Paper conversation, Robby, Mark, and Jeremy dig into:Digital property rights that survive chain upgrades and token crashes.A chain-agnostic identity layer—why you won’t need twelve wallets in five years.The unsexy piece missing in most roadmaps: decentralised infrastructure that scales.“Speculation comes and goes, but permissionless ownership is the unlock that never leaves.” Skip the buzzwords. No vaporware. Just a candid look at what Web3 must get right before the next cycle begins.Please enjoy the show. And share with the friend who keeps asking, “What’s next after NFTs?”--Chapters(00:00) Introduction Disruptors & Curious Minds(01:06) Hello Robby And Animoca Brands(01:24) Lesson From 30 Years In Technology(06:25) Stablecoin Transaction Volume V Visa(11:18) Audience Infrastructure and Bi-Directional Value Exchange(15:56) The Evolution of Web3 Gaming(22:13) Investment Strategies in the Web3 Landscape(24:08) The Zed Run Case Study(27:21) User Acquisition in Web3: The Ongoing Struggle(31:19) Sustaining Attention in DAOs(32:10) What Is The Mocha Network and Mocha ID(45:34) Decentralized Identity--LinksThinking On Paper: www.thinkingonpaper.xyzInstagram: /https://www.instagram.com/thinkingonpaperpodcast/Animoca - https://www.animocabrands.com/

May 23, 2025 • 28min
How to Write a Book With AI — Writers Quake In Their Boots
Would you read a book written by an AI? We did. And it wasn’t just text prediction. It was story. Pacing. Theme. Character arcs. No human prompts, no edits, no intervention. But what does that mean for art, culture, copyright law and IP?Brian Naughton asked Claude 3.5 Sonnet to write a novel from scratch. What he got back was The Echo Chamber, the first full-length novel written, planned, and revised entirely by AI. The result raises real questions. Can a machine tell a story that moves you? Does authorship still matter when intent disappears?This week on Thinking on Paper, Mark and Jeremy sit down with Brian to talk about the process, the limits, and what this might mean for writing, meaning, and the future of art.Please enjoy the show. And share with a curious friend. --Links:Thinking On Paper: www.thinkingonpaper.xyzRead The Echo Chamber: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F8N4S64Q/Read the Echo Chamber Github: https://github.com/brian-naughton/the-echo-chamber--(00:00) Introduction to AI-Authored Literature(00:46) The Role of AI in Creative Writing(02:41) The Echo Chamber: The First AI Written Book(06:06) Managing the Writing Process with AI(09:30) AI Master Prompts(10:51) Character Development and AI's Choices(13:51) The Human Element in AI Writing(17:03) Reflections on the Writing Experience(20:24) The Future of AI in Literature(24:12) AI Art: What Happens Next?